Conservatives You Like

It's not so much that liberals sit and listen to Rush, but his pronouncements and their perceived effects on his audience definitely feed into liberal discourse. And vice versa--it's like they feed off the extremism of their opposite because it reinforces their beliefs.

Robert Guillaime-tv's beloved Benson.

Like I said, talk radio is different, I listen to it, Michael Savage, I know you all hate him but at least he has a personality and is easy to listen to. Same with Medved. Some of the others are less about personality and substance and more about reacting and callers etc. But the tv shows are different, they cover actual news, Fox does crime news stories that I don't see on CNN. So you're getting a perspective you don't agree with, but at least there is some news attached to it. Frankly I find CNN monotonous in comparison.

Kelefa Sanneh interviewed Savage for The New Yorker last week (members only, alas).

oh fuckin hell robert guillaume are you sure? when were you going to tell Stephanie?

"So I began a Boycott List, nobody on my list will ever get my money again. I hope that you will join me in boycotting these Propagandists. WHY CAN'T THEY JUST DO THEIR JOB AND ENTERTAIN US. Don't they realize no one cares what they have to say."

my how intellectual of you...

Michael Savage, I know you all hate him but at least he has a personality and is easy to listen to

No, he's extremely difficult to listen to. I'd rather sit through 3 hours of Limbaugh on his highest soapbox.

Savage is all "calm voice, calm voice, RAGE RAGE RAGE about unrelated item"

Eazy-E

Watch the video on the right:

http://www.conservativetours.com/index.html

You know why I like Savage, because one time I listened to him and he was going on ranting and raving about child predators like he really cared about something and he got my respect for that.

What.

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You're obviously being satirical. Sorry, it was too dry for me to notice right away.

i used to listen to him on long drives but it became impossible, i felt like i wanted to crash into a tree

I like O'Reilly because he really cares about the state of our country.

is this medved the same mustacioed Medved that inherited Siskel & Ebert's PBS show and ran it into the ground?

yeah! he's one of those conservative "film critics"

that guy was pretty terrible! let's find one of his film reviews and make fun of it, or rather find one that is particularly awful and just collectively gasp.

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"Sometimes when I'm driving . . . on the road at night . . . I see two headlights coming toward me. Fast. I have this sudden impulse to turn the wheel quickly, head-on into the oncoming car. I can anticipate the explosion. The sound of shattering glass. The . . . flames rising out of the flowing gasoline."

haha i was thinking about in tommy boy: "every time i drive down the road i wanna jerk the wheel and drive into a goddamn bridge abutment"

lol at "bridge abutment"

the one time I listened to Savage was on a delivery job at an old job, and the driver insisted on listening to him. He had Edmund Teller on and were seriously discussing winnable nuclear war. I wanted to jump out of the truck.

Mom-el told me that her little sister is now a fan of Michael Savage. At first I thought she listened to him the way I once watched Limbaugh as a teenager - as cultural tourism - until my dad forbid the practice in his presence. But apparently, my aunt agrees with him, which is scary. Our family is pretty liberal: my grandma made my mom promise that she would not become a registered Republican until after her death, and that if my mom voted for one of "them," she didn't want to know. But even my mom thinks Savage (and now her sister) have batshit views.

reihan salam!

I liked Salam a lot more before I read this:

http://agenda.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjFjODRlZGU5MTQ3NTc5YjhlMmQ0NWU5YmNjNWRlOTA=

The best book I've read on the origins of social democracy is Sheri Berman's The Primacy of Politics: Social Democracy and the Making of Europe's Twentieth Century, a sympathetic account that describes the movement as an outgrowth of the various revisionist movements that emerged in tension with and in opposition to Marxist orthodoxy. Another movement that emerged from the intellectual ferment of revisionism is, of course, fascism, and Jonah Golderg has vividly described the awkward relationship between these traditions at great length. Though it should go without saying that egalitarian social democracy and racial fascism are deeply different, both see the creation and cultivation of social solidarity as vitally important.

man, what a thread.

daniel larison

mario vargas llosa

i like emund burke, ts eliot and heidegger

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, March 20, 2009 11:59 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha i was going to start a thread yesterday, about this, with these three names

Bruce Bartlett!

the dude calls the nu GOP on their fiscal hoodoo bullshit pretty consistently.

Richard Posner, Larison, Ramesh Ponnuru (he actually goes through the motions of considering liberal positions).

love it when larison gets all jesus-y

haha i do too. happy easter!!

or whatever that is in greek

yeah larison is pretty cool

A typically lucid pot.

er, post

speaking of jesus-y stuff, k-lo is poppin off on twitter using the #goodfriday tag

i tend to prefer senate republicans to their rabid, and completely fucking insane house counterparts.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, June 16, 2004 10:42 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

2004, huh?

second post on the thread:

"The obvious: John McCain"...

god it does seem like forever ago when he was an obvious conservative to like. what a difference six years makes!

i didnt know that larison had converted!

yah he's one of the few I can read these days

Long before I began moving towards Orthodoxy, I was being introduced to an Orthodox view of the world through Dostoevsky and through my eclectic religious reading, which included the translation of The Philokalia, which I only barely comprehended when I first encountered it. It wasn’t until that I started grounding my understanding of the faith in its historical context when I was in college that I began to appreciate what I was discovering. That was what started me on the path to studying Byzantine history at the same time. It also deepened my interest in the history of the Orthodox Church and the Church’s teachings, which eventually led to my baptism in 2003. In fact, it was originally a very academic inquiry into the history of the 14th-century Hesychastic controversy in Byzantium that started me on my academic interest in both Byzantine theology and history, which would only later lead me to understand how insufficient an academic and intellectual approach to Orthodoxy was.

how can you not love this guy

Kurt Russel is libertarian, but it's kind of impossible to dislike that dude.

bruce willis is a republican too, got much love for bruce willis.

Kurt Russell was a busy child/young adult actor. He never had time to let his politics evolve, so as an old man he just chose to be a libertarian because it requires the least amount of thought.

Long before I began moving towards Orthodoxy, I was being introduced to an Orthodox view of the world through Dostoevsky and through my eclectic religious reading

hmmm ... so was it Dostoyevsky's hatred of all things non-Russian in general, or Dostoyevsky's anti-Semitism in particular, that so warmed Larison's cold reactionary heart?!?

You cynic.

is there a single writer/thinker in the US right now that is non-libertarian right-wing and is not just terrible?

no

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Not sure if Larison counts as libertarian exactly but, no, I don't think he's terrible, not in the least. He's a good bullshit detector. Is Garry Wills still a conservative?

idk where wills stands on obama but he's certainly not in lockstep with political conservatives on the catholic church