It's like my mother telling me how "taking part is what counts" after I entered a swimming race and finishing last was meant to make me feel better.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:43 (ten months ago) link
Look, after both teams had lost 18 wickets in total, England were ahead, so its a moral victory for me Clive
― Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:45 (ten months ago) link
also Joe Root is back, back, back as best batsman in the world in the ICC Rankings sponsored by MRF Tyres, so who are the REAL winners here?
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:49 (ten months ago) link
England were massive favourites with an hour to go. Needed two tailenders to play the innings of their lives. Had England their main spinner available, they'd have probably won. Unearthing a functional spinner is the priority before the remaining Tests
― imago, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:56 (ten months ago) link
"results based cricket"
That's going to make for a truly thought leading LinkedIn update.
― cocaine bear say hi to me (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:58 (ten months ago) link
"When your fast bowler with a history of racist tweets verbally abuses a Muslim opponent in an Ashes Test, do you start asking questions, or do you simply assume you already know the answers?"
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jun/27/english-cricket-independent-commission-equity-prejudice-azeem-rafiq-racism
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 13:17 (ten months ago) link
good article, would quibble this though
a sport created and codified for the purpose of allowing rich white landowners to bet against each other
CLR James writes of how it was codified in the Victorian era as a means to establish sport as 'civilising' influence over the workers both at home and abroad and ofc quell resentment, but how the game itself was devised earlier - yes, with betting a crucial component
In all essentials the modern game was formed and shaped between1778, when Hazlitt was born, and 1830, when he died. It was created by the yeoman farmer, the gamekeeper, the potter, the tinker, theNottingham coal-miner, the Yorkshire factory hand. These artisansmade it, men of hand and eye. Rich and idle young noblemen and somesubstantial city people contributed money, organization and prestige.Between them, by 1837 they had evolved a highly complicated gamewith all the typical characteristics of a genuinely national art form:founded on elements long present in the nation, profoundly popularin origin, yet attracting to it disinterested elements of the leisured andeducated classes. Confined to areas and numbers which were relativelysmall, it contained all the premises of rapid growth. There was nothingin the slightest degree Victorian about it. At their matches cricketersate and drank with the gusto of the time, sang songs and played forlarge sums of money. Bookies sat before the pavilion at Lord's openly taking bets. The unscrupulous nobleman and the poor but dishonestcommoner alike bought and sold matches. Both Sir Donald Bradmanand Mr. Neville Cardus think that cricket is too complex a game toencourage betting. The history of the game is against them. There isnothing too complex for men to bet on. Cricket took its start from theage in which it was born, both the good and the bad. That the goodcould predominate was a testimony to the simple men who made itand the life they lived.The class of the population that seems to have contributed leastwas the class destined to appropriate the game and convert it intoa national institution. This was the solid Victorian middle class.
not to take anything away from Liew's analysis of its current problems, which are well-observed and manifest across the game
― imago, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:02 (ten months ago) link
That article is I want to say brutal but I guess just honest. Liew is on fire at the moment.
― Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:37 (ten months ago) link
much to unpack here but one thing jumped out at me in all this: Lord's, the self-styled "home of cricket", has NEVER hosted a women's test match, and yet continues to provide the venue for the annual Eton v Harrow match.
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link
just nice to see Stokes committing to being a saviour
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:30 (ten months ago) link
liew had to take a fair amount of shit from Jonathan Agnew a few years ago about his cricket writing iirc
― oscar bravo, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:02 (ten months ago) link
liew was right then and he's right now
― oscar bravo, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:03 (ten months ago) link
Aggers called Liew a cunt; then backtracked and blamed it on his meds.
― Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:23 (ten months ago) link
Despise Agnew!
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 09:19 (ten months ago) link
This is fucking idiotic.
― Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:30 (ten months ago) link
Trying to attack the short stuff?
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:42 (ten months ago) link
Falling into the leg theory trap aye. Four wickets and counting (five if you count Root getting out twice).
― Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:47 (ten months ago) link
not great shot selection but batters are allowed to make mistakes on occasion, particularly JE Root. Stokes seems to be calming things down now.
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:57 (ten months ago) link
If England carry on like this I'll be back supporting them before the end of the series.
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 30 June 2023 11:39 (ten months ago) link
I'm thinking we should go back to not talking about men's mental health
― the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 12:02 (ten months ago) link
where to even start with all this
― imago, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:09 (ten months ago) link
that Bairstow incident certainly got them going!
― calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:10 (ten months ago) link
*frantically checking Robinson and Tongue's first-class batting records*
― imago, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:11 (ten months ago) link
I knew I should have put a tenner on England an hour or so ago when they were almost double figures to win this test
― calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:14 (ten months ago) link
it seems Broad has been caught on the stump mic calling them 'Same old cheating Aussies'
― calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:20 (ten months ago) link
Fucking hell, this is crazy.
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:35 (ten months ago) link
Just need an Anderson half century now to win it.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 2 July 2023 14:36 (ten months ago) link
I put a pish £3 bet on England when they were 20/1 just in case there is another plot twist on the cards today
― calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:06 (ten months ago) link
and that's why I never make any profit from cricket betting!
― calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:12 (ten months ago) link
Hopefully this will put at end to this chummy shite between the two teams and they will go back to hating each other, as they should.
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:14 (ten months ago) link
Cummins' unapologetic presser will increase the hatred and booing at Headingly, stoked for it.
― calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:55 (ten months ago) link
I'd expected nothing less from an Aussie captain.
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 July 2023 16:12 (ten months ago) link
stuart broad of all people getting the hump about 'spirit of the game' is frankly hilarious.
― oscar bravo, Sunday, 2 July 2023 20:18 (ten months ago) link
It's weird listening on the radio because you react to the crowd noise and can only 'see' what the commentators direct you towards. Which is to say, it felt wrong at the time and I've had a horrible feeling in my guts about it all afternoon. Having seen the footage and listened to a bunch of people who know what they're talking about, Bairstow was out and should 100% know better, given it's a tactic he's used himself over the years. None of which is going to stop it from getting (uglier, given what happened in the ground and, particularly, in the long room). Headingley is going to be even more of a bear pit than usual.
― Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Sunday, 2 July 2023 20:51 (ten months ago) link
Honestly, those fuckwit members in the long room. You would do more for the 'spirit of the game' if you staked them all out, covered them in bacon and left them to the wasps and herring gulls.
― Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Sunday, 2 July 2023 20:53 (ten months ago) link
seeing as the series is done as a competition then extreme levels of spite are just what it needs
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 July 2023 21:36 (ten months ago) link
I am frantically trying to find a way to bet on Ben Stokes getting dismissed by Mankad at Headingley.
― cocaine bear say hi to me (King Boy Pato), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:36 (nine months ago) link
Anyway, this is all very funny and highly amusing.
― cocaine bear say hi to me (King Boy Pato), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:38 (nine months ago) link
I couldn't find any odds on the England team plumbing new depths of the victim playing British "fair play" delusion.
― calzino, Monday, 3 July 2023 08:45 (nine months ago) link
still don't know why Australia are getting booed, what have they done wrong?
― Ste, Monday, 3 July 2023 09:08 (nine months ago) link
To Johnny Bairstow too, hero of right wing wankers everywhere.
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Monday, 3 July 2023 09:16 (nine months ago) link
Gotta laugh. No spinners, dropped catches, crazy hour shot selection. Quite a philosophy!
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 10:40 (nine months ago) link
if they don't win this one, don't throw Bazball in the bin but maybe consider a few of the batsmen
― imago, Saturday, 8 July 2023 18:48 (nine months ago) link
if you took Stokes considerable batting contribution out of the Bazball equation for this Ashes it would just look like an abandonment of tactics and all focus would be on some of the careless braindead ways the rest of them cheaply gift wickets to the Aussies. But it has been a lot of fun!
― calzino, Saturday, 8 July 2023 22:48 (nine months ago) link
crawling towards Bazlam
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 July 2023 13:48 (nine months ago) link
I knew all the heckling would pay off
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 July 2023 14:41 (nine months ago) link
we just need another champion spell leading into Old Trafford
and to drop Bairstow
― imago, Sunday, 9 July 2023 15:19 (nine months ago) link
bairstow does need to go. v strange test, those first two innings entirely wrapped around two batsmen and a couple of maurahding bowlers.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 9 July 2023 15:26 (nine months ago) link
I was expecting rain this afternoon, both the MET office and BBC weather got it wrong. Bairstow has been useless, his only indirect contribution was that the confected sense of injustice around his idiotic stumping seemed to have the knock on effect of wakening the beast in Stokes.
― calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2023 16:12 (nine months ago) link
that was an intense last 100-ish runs to watch live, i have a ton of thoughts about the distraction that is Bazball but not now. Bairstow is screaming to be dropped by almost any metric
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 July 2023 17:04 (nine months ago) link