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It's like my mother telling me how "taking part is what counts" after I entered a swimming race and finishing last was meant to make me feel better.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:43 (ten months ago) link

Look, after both teams had lost 18 wickets in total, England were ahead, so its a moral victory for me Clive

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:45 (ten months ago) link

also Joe Root is back, back, back as best batsman in the world in the ICC Rankings sponsored by MRF Tyres, so who are the REAL winners here?

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:49 (ten months ago) link

England were massive favourites with an hour to go. Needed two tailenders to play the innings of their lives. Had England their main spinner available, they'd have probably won. Unearthing a functional spinner is the priority before the remaining Tests

imago, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:56 (ten months ago) link

"results based cricket"

That's going to make for a truly thought leading LinkedIn update.

cocaine bear say hi to me (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:58 (ten months ago) link

"When your fast bowler with a history of racist tweets verbally abuses a Muslim opponent in an Ashes Test, do you start asking questions, or do you simply assume you already know the answers?"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jun/27/english-cricket-independent-commission-equity-prejudice-azeem-rafiq-racism

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 13:17 (ten months ago) link

good article, would quibble this though

a sport created and codified for the purpose of allowing rich white landowners to bet against each other

CLR James writes of how it was codified in the Victorian era as a means to establish sport as 'civilising' influence over the workers both at home and abroad and ofc quell resentment, but how the game itself was devised earlier - yes, with betting a crucial component

In all essentials the modern game was formed and shaped between
1778, when Hazlitt was born, and 1830, when he died. It was created
by the yeoman farmer, the gamekeeper, the potter, the tinker, the
Nottingham coal-miner, the Yorkshire factory hand. These artisans
made it, men of hand and eye. Rich and idle young noblemen and some
substantial city people contributed money, organization and prestige.
Between them, by 1837 they had evolved a highly complicated game
with all the typical characteristics of a genuinely national art form:
founded on elements long present in the nation, profoundly popular
in origin, yet attracting to it disinterested elements of the leisured and
educated classes. Confined to areas and numbers which were relatively
small, it contained all the premises of rapid growth. There was nothing
in the slightest degree Victorian about it. At their matches cricketers
ate and drank with the gusto of the time, sang songs and played for
large sums of money. Bookies sat before the pavilion at Lord's openly taking bets. The unscrupulous nobleman and the poor but dishonest
commoner alike bought and sold matches. Both Sir Donald Bradman
and Mr. Neville Cardus think that cricket is too complex a game to
encourage betting. The history of the game is against them. There is
nothing too complex for men to bet on. Cricket took its start from the
age in which it was born, both the good and the bad. That the good
could predominate was a testimony to the simple men who made it
and the life they lived.
The class of the population that seems to have contributed least
was the class destined to appropriate the game and convert it into
a national institution. This was the solid Victorian middle class.

not to take anything away from Liew's analysis of its current problems, which are well-observed and manifest across the game

imago, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:02 (ten months ago) link

That article is I want to say brutal but I guess just honest. Liew is on fire at the moment.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:37 (ten months ago) link

much to unpack here but one thing jumped out at me in all this: Lord's, the self-styled "home of cricket", has NEVER hosted a women's test match, and yet continues to provide the venue for the annual Eton v Harrow match.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link

just nice to see Stokes committing to being a saviour

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:30 (ten months ago) link

liew had to take a fair amount of shit from Jonathan Agnew a few years ago about his cricket writing iirc

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:02 (ten months ago) link

liew was right then and he's right now

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:03 (ten months ago) link

Aggers called Liew a cunt; then backtracked and blamed it on his meds.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:23 (ten months ago) link

Despise Agnew!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 09:19 (ten months ago) link

This is fucking idiotic.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:30 (ten months ago) link

Trying to attack the short stuff?

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:42 (ten months ago) link

Falling into the leg theory trap aye. Four wickets and counting (five if you count Root getting out twice).

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:47 (ten months ago) link

not great shot selection but batters are allowed to make mistakes on occasion, particularly JE Root. Stokes seems to be calming things down now.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:57 (ten months ago) link

If England carry on like this I'll be back supporting them before the end of the series.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 30 June 2023 11:39 (ten months ago) link

I'm thinking we should go back to not talking about men's mental health

the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 12:02 (ten months ago) link

where to even start with all this

imago, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:09 (ten months ago) link

that Bairstow incident certainly got them going!

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:10 (ten months ago) link

*frantically checking Robinson and Tongue's first-class batting records*

imago, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:11 (ten months ago) link

I knew I should have put a tenner on England an hour or so ago when they were almost double figures to win this test

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:14 (ten months ago) link

it seems Broad has been caught on the stump mic calling them 'Same old cheating Aussies'

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:20 (ten months ago) link

Fucking hell, this is crazy.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:35 (ten months ago) link

Just need an Anderson half century now to win it.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 2 July 2023 14:36 (ten months ago) link

I put a pish £3 bet on England when they were 20/1 just in case there is another plot twist on the cards today

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:06 (ten months ago) link

and that's why I never make any profit from cricket betting!

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:12 (ten months ago) link

Hopefully this will put at end to this chummy shite between the two teams and they will go back to hating each other, as they should.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:14 (ten months ago) link

Cummins' unapologetic presser will increase the hatred and booing at Headingly, stoked for it.

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:55 (ten months ago) link

I'd expected nothing less from an Aussie captain.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 July 2023 16:12 (ten months ago) link

stuart broad of all people getting the hump about 'spirit of the game' is frankly hilarious.

oscar bravo, Sunday, 2 July 2023 20:18 (ten months ago) link

It's weird listening on the radio because you react to the crowd noise and can only 'see' what the commentators direct you towards. Which is to say, it felt wrong at the time and I've had a horrible feeling in my guts about it all afternoon. Having seen the footage and listened to a bunch of people who know what they're talking about, Bairstow was out and should 100% know better, given it's a tactic he's used himself over the years. None of which is going to stop it from getting (uglier, given what happened in the ground and, particularly, in the long room). Headingley is going to be even more of a bear pit than usual.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Sunday, 2 July 2023 20:51 (ten months ago) link

Honestly, those fuckwit members in the long room. You would do more for the 'spirit of the game' if you staked them all out, covered them in bacon and left them to the wasps and herring gulls.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Sunday, 2 July 2023 20:53 (ten months ago) link

seeing as the series is done as a competition then extreme levels of spite are just what it needs

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 July 2023 21:36 (ten months ago) link

and that's why I never make any profit from cricket betting!

I am frantically trying to find a way to bet on Ben Stokes getting dismissed by Mankad at Headingley.

cocaine bear say hi to me (King Boy Pato), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:36 (nine months ago) link

Anyway, this is all very funny and highly amusing.

cocaine bear say hi to me (King Boy Pato), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:38 (nine months ago) link

I couldn't find any odds on the England team plumbing new depths of the victim playing British "fair play" delusion.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2023 08:45 (nine months ago) link

still don't know why Australia are getting booed, what have they done wrong?

Ste, Monday, 3 July 2023 09:08 (nine months ago) link

To Johnny Bairstow too, hero of right wing wankers everywhere.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Monday, 3 July 2023 09:16 (nine months ago) link

Gotta laugh. No spinners, dropped catches, crazy hour shot selection. Quite a philosophy!

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 10:40 (nine months ago) link

if they don't win this one, don't throw Bazball in the bin but maybe consider a few of the batsmen

imago, Saturday, 8 July 2023 18:48 (nine months ago) link

if you took Stokes considerable batting contribution out of the Bazball equation for this Ashes it would just look like an abandonment of tactics and all focus would be on some of the careless braindead ways the rest of them cheaply gift wickets to the Aussies. But it has been a lot of fun!

calzino, Saturday, 8 July 2023 22:48 (nine months ago) link

crawling towards Bazlam

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 July 2023 13:48 (nine months ago) link

I knew all the heckling would pay off

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 July 2023 14:41 (nine months ago) link

we just need another champion spell leading into Old Trafford

and to drop Bairstow

imago, Sunday, 9 July 2023 15:19 (nine months ago) link

bairstow does need to go. v strange test, those first two innings entirely wrapped around two batsmen and a couple of maurahding bowlers.

Fizzles, Sunday, 9 July 2023 15:26 (nine months ago) link

I was expecting rain this afternoon, both the MET office and BBC weather got it wrong. Bairstow has been useless, his only indirect contribution was that the confected sense of injustice around his idiotic stumping seemed to have the knock on effect of wakening the beast in Stokes.

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2023 16:12 (nine months ago) link

that was an intense last 100-ish runs to watch live, i have a ton of thoughts about the distraction that is Bazball but not now. Bairstow is screaming to be dropped by almost any metric

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 July 2023 17:04 (nine months ago) link


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