Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

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i get a nasty but not legally threatening email whenever i download star trek in canada.

formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:27 (ten months ago) link

what’s canada got against so star trek

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:29 (ten months ago) link

canada has legally enforced media monopolies, including bell which owns distribution of star trek.

formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:33 (ten months ago) link

Geez I havent seen anyone actively sending takedown notices to ISP customers in years. Maybe I just dont work in the right teams anymore (I used to see more Abuse email than I do these days).

You should of course use a VPN when sailing the seas. Have to in AU anyway - PyRat Bae doesnt work without one.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 19 June 2023 01:22 (ten months ago) link

captain pike’s quiff failing to match the johnnybravian heights of s1 in this first episode of s2, smdh

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 19 June 2023 19:36 (ten months ago) link

I haven't been this anxious for the next episode to drop since the last season of DS9.

Cashews Everything Around Me (Leee), Monday, 19 June 2023 19:59 (ten months ago) link

random insertion of lore superserum feels very akiva goldsman. want an action scene? give the characters super strength for a few minutes.

formerly abanana (dat), Monday, 19 June 2023 21:41 (ten months ago) link

https://morbotron.com/img/S05E06/507456.jpg

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 19 June 2023 23:30 (ten months ago) link

re: sketchiness of torrents, there are a wide variety of sites that post links to video hosts that just stream whole seasons directly, provided you have a browser with a sturdy ad popup blocker.
and speaking of sketchy video hosts, youtube, amazon prime, etc... seem to be officially streaming all of season 1 for free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-PF7aPc7TQ

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 20:34 (ten months ago) link

I liked S2E2 more than the premiere. Not as good as "Measure of a Man" but what is.

formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 25 June 2023 06:47 (ten months ago) link

Same. Star Trek shouldn't be about blowing up spaceships, it should be about big unsubtle metaphors for social prejudice and earnest speeches.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 25 June 2023 07:50 (ten months ago) link

Agree one hundred percent. Spent the whole episode going "hmm, not sure what they're trying to tell us here, it's so coded!" But that is what Star Trek is for.

trishyb, Sunday, 25 June 2023 09:17 (ten months ago) link

I didn’t love that one, especially once it went into monologues-only mode in the last section — plus, the lawyer was a terrible actor. But the crew stuff was good as usual and the Spock joke (“I’m sorry you had to see that outburst”) was perfect.

This reminded me of “Measure” but I also love that Dax trial story in season 3 (?) of DS9. Like this SNW, it’s only a so-so episode, but I remember one of the monologues made me bawl unexpectedly

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 25 June 2023 09:23 (ten months ago) link

I'm trying to cram in s1 while it's free on yt - I had to uninstall all my t0rr3nt software recently. it's no tng so far but I'm enjoying it. Just watched ep 6, if my house required plugging a small child in to a diabolical machine in the basement to stop it falling to pieces I would simply find another house to live in.

ledge, Sunday, 25 June 2023 13:30 (ten months ago) link

But could you convince the rest of your family to Walk Away? It's a really nice house.

Xp
I wasn't sure if the lawyer actor was overacting or was playing a lawyer who overacted. Could have been done better either way.

adam t. (abanana), Sunday, 25 June 2023 16:56 (ten months ago) link

idk wtf you guys are on about, lawyer wax great

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 June 2023 18:53 (ten months ago) link

was, even

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 June 2023 18:54 (ten months ago) link

this episode slapped, being hammered by unsubtle metaphors is u&k for star trek and this was a great extension of that venerable tradition

but the most important question is have we ever seen a bald vulcan before

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 25 June 2023 20:20 (ten months ago) link

Pretty sure we got one on Disco.

I was meh on this one, much preferred the premiere, but given that this was a courtroom drama, any actor worth their salt ought to go ham imo.

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Sunday, 25 June 2023 20:27 (ten months ago) link

thrilled as i am to see bald representation onscreen i’m not watching disco ffs

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 25 June 2023 20:31 (ten months ago) link

Lol I certainly wouldn't recommend it just for that (or TBH any) reason.

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Sunday, 25 June 2023 20:33 (ten months ago) link

Picard S3 had T'Veen, a bald female Vulcan.

formerly abanana (dat), Monday, 26 June 2023 00:05 (ten months ago) link

also contextually i thought the defense lawyer’s vibe was in keeping with the other courtroom classics, not only measure of a man with picard’s gf but the one in TOS where kirk’s gf was the prosecutor lawyer & the rad old dude w all the books was their defense. you know, jettisoning yellow vs red escape pods etc.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 June 2023 00:10 (ten months ago) link

I liked her initial “fuck you I’m burning everything down” vibe, I wanted her to win the case while staying in that mode, rather than getting (ugh) nicer

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 26 June 2023 00:28 (ten months ago) link

laughed out loud when the tellarite judge said ‘tread carefully, counselor’

i think it was his only line

mookieproof, Monday, 26 June 2023 04:25 (ten months ago) link

apologies for s1 interruptions but a shout-out to maggie nelson's the argonauts was not on my star trek bingo card.

ledge, Monday, 26 June 2023 09:07 (ten months ago) link

I liked her initial “fuck you I’m burning everything down” vibe, I wanted her to win the case while staying in that mode, rather than getting (ugh) nicer

Her initial stance was, as she herself mentioned, designed to use the platform given to argue against the Federation's hypocrisy - it was not about winning the case at all, and if she'd continued in this mode she would have lost. An interesting question for me is whether she had always envisioned this structure - go hard on the polemics on the first day, then actually focus on saving your client - or whether she had initially taken the job fully expecting to sacrifice Number One and was won over during the ep. Anyway I don't think her "niceness" in the rest of the trial was anything other than a weapon.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 26 June 2023 09:23 (ten months ago) link

I was wondering when SNW would get to a time travel episode. It's a bit of a reshuffle of City on the Edge of Forever, but I thought this one was stronger - a lot of stuff crammed into this episode that was fun, silly, and awesome all at once. I heart Pelia.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 29 June 2023 13:08 (ten months ago) link

Agreed on all that. A perfect whing-ding of an episode that actually lands hard and heavy at the end in the best way. Plus, Tronno itself gets canonized. (And indirect Expanse crossover! Sorta!)

(The diner featured at one point is I gather a famed city landmark -- or was, per friends.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 June 2023 18:33 (ten months ago) link

Ha, the only time the Lakeview gets described as a “landmark” is in newspaper articles when it closes and reopens every six years (I know this because I wrote one of them in 2008!). Under every management it’s always been a very average diner in a city full of very good diners. But, er, yeah - loved the location work and Kirk’s “this must be New York City!”.

Kirk was much better this time and I love La’an but I thought this episode was… fun but very ropey.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 29 June 2023 23:20 (ten months ago) link

A very funny thing happened last night. We’ve been watching a couple eps of Strange New Worlds every night and we got up to S1E9 (the dark-ass disaster episode). My bf hadn’t ever seen TOS, and actually, neither had I, barring three “celebrated episodes” (the one with Joan Collins i.e.). I suggested we watch an old TOS episode before continuing on with Brave New Worlds.

I scanned a list of “favourite TOS episodes” and selected at random the episode “Balance Of Terror”. Romulans! We watched the episode and loved it, I was delighted to see the dude who would go on to play Sarek playing a Romulan villain.

Then we put on S1E10. Dunno if you know which episode I’m talking about, but it was completely coincidentally a total homage to the TOS episode that we’d just watched. Scenes played out line-for-line, Ortegas was taking the role of the Vulcan-bigot, it was an astounding coincidence. My bf remains unconvinced that I hadn’t selected “Balance Of Terror” intentionally but I seriously did not, I had no idea of the content of either episode, going in. Interesting, no?

Nursenaries III: Health Is Wealth (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:03 (ten months ago) link

I'm not ever suggesting anyone watch STV, but if you do, and the stars align just right, you might be in for another synchronicity jawdropper.

The final shot in the latest episode is over-the-top foreboding in a way that would be super weird if there's no follow-up, and even weirder if the follow-up is inconsequential.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:49 (ten months ago) link

It is interesting how, as a teen in the 90s, I immensely preferred Picard to Kirk, and thought that the idea of “a captain who fucks” was unappealing. Now I definitely prefer a captain who fucks. I think it’s more that my pov of the Star Trek universe has changed from one in which I’m deeply immersed to one where I’m strictly watching to be entertained

Nursenaries III: Health Is Wealth (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:30 (ten months ago) link

Well all I'll say is that when you get around to the SNW episode that dropped yesterday you'll be glad you saw that Joan Collins episode.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 June 2023 19:06 (ten months ago) link

this was great

although i have to ask -- is la'an's eyeliner a physical characteristic, or a tattoo, or is she just extremely dedicated about applying it

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 July 2023 01:22 (ten months ago) link

Felt a lot of parallels between what Pelia was in this epsiode, and the storyline in Picard with Guinan. I liked both the last 2 eps!

La'an/alt Kirk relaysh felt a bit rushed/forced though. I feel like I missed some back story, did we go over her angst about being a Singh before now? If she's got reviled DNA how come she isnt in trouble but No1 was?

The final shot in the latest episode is over-the-top foreboding in a way that would be super weird if there's no follow-up, and even weirder if the follow-up is inconsequential.
You mean the focus pull to the watch? That caught my eye too, what did that mean?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 1 July 2023 08:21 (ten months ago) link

I took it as a sign that the Federation's Department of Temporal Investigations will be back. I had to look them up - completely forgot that both they and the Temporal Integrity Commission were already around.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 1 July 2023 11:13 (ten months ago) link

Where would your base be if you were a Temporal Cop? Presumably you’d have to stay in the past so you don’t get blipped by accident. Seems like a paperwork nightmare.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:55 (ten months ago) link

No multiverses plz

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:55 (ten months ago) link

Mirror Universe is already a multiverse, but yeah, I'm really tired of those.

This was fun till it got dark and serious.

(And indirect Expanse crossover! Sorta!)

IDGI -- Toronto?

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Saturday, 1 July 2023 19:16 (ten months ago) link

As much as I love a Starfleet officer trying to navigate a revolving door, I do not fine Bernadette Peters's accent or shtick charming in this programme, so I didn't love this. I was hoping she was a bit more of an occasional guest star than a regular fixture. Oh well.

trishyb, Saturday, 1 July 2023 20:03 (ten months ago) link

*Carol Kane.

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Saturday, 1 July 2023 20:14 (ten months ago) link

Oh there are many of us who feel the opposite about Kane’s casting and performance :)

Nursenaries III: Health Is Wealth (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 1 July 2023 20:15 (ten months ago) link

Didn’t think I’d dig her but she worked great in this episode.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 1 July 2023 20:31 (ten months ago) link

*Carol Kane.

Yes, of course. one for the "I always get those two mixed up" thread.

Oh there are many of us who feel the opposite about Kane’s casting and performance :)

For sure, I figured I would be in the minority.

trishyb, Saturday, 1 July 2023 20:33 (ten months ago) link

i love her but yeah i could very much do without the accent

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 July 2023 20:44 (ten months ago) link

also i believe captain kirk dropped a reference to duckduckgo?

almost makes up for the musk reference in discovery (which he may or may not have paid for?)

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 July 2023 22:54 (ten months ago) link

I choose to think the musk reference was a secret clue that that captain was from the mirror universe.
but... that also means... the mirror universe... is OUR universe...

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:06 (ten months ago) link

Duckduckgo reference done to atone for the Apple store reference right before.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 2 July 2023 08:45 (ten months ago) link

It is interesting how, as a teen in the 90s, I immensely preferred Picard to Kirk, and thought that the idea of “a captain who fucks” was unappealing. Now I definitely prefer a captain who fucks. I think it’s more that my pov of the Star Trek universe has changed from one in which I’m deeply immersed to one where I’m strictly watching to be entertained

Doing a big TNG rewatch and Picard actualky fucks a fair amount, more than one ep features an old flame whose heart he's broken. He's just sly about it, the little hussy.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 2 July 2023 08:50 (ten months ago) link


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