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England are far too cocky at the moment, I'm switching my allegiance to Aus.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 16 June 2023 09:45 (ten months ago) link

declaring on day 1 it's like they read tom's comment and decided to raise the bar

oscar bravo, Friday, 16 June 2023 20:36 (ten months ago) link

on a flat pitch with a v uncertain spin bowling option and stokes carrying a niggle it seems foolhardy tbh, but i guess we will see today.

Fizzles, Saturday, 17 June 2023 09:10 (ten months ago) link

pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse, after all

imago, Saturday, 17 June 2023 09:53 (ten months ago) link

For those wanting a taste of Bazball Done Well btw, check out the women's Ashes warmup scorecards. Aussie reign of terror helpless in its face. Alternatively, it is just a warmup

imago, Saturday, 17 June 2023 09:56 (ten months ago) link

i guess we will see today.

Indeed.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 June 2023 10:37 (ten months ago) link

more like Bagofshiteball

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 June 2023 17:19 (ten months ago) link

Bullshit aside, this is a brilliant test match.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Monday, 19 June 2023 15:36 (ten months ago) link

bloody entertaining Test match but even more excited for this tbh

It's one thing to have a drama series on Shane Warne.

It's totally another thing, when Ch9 is bringing a show on the feud between Ian Chappell and Ian Botham.

In the preview, Ian Chappell called Botham a liar.#Ashes pic.twitter.com/MMQfxCO32j

— Vijay A (@VAAChandran) June 19, 2023

cocaine bear say hi to me (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 11:23 (ten months ago) link

Cricket lovely cricket
It's the game with stumps and bails and wickets
In Birmingham on the fifth day the elements
Threaten to curtail the packed Ashes crowd's enjoyment
England prospered with their aggressive approach called Bazball
But sometimes they give away their wickets for practically nothing at all

<saxophone solo>

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 13:17 (ten months ago) link

none of you deserve this

imago, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 17:17 (ten months ago) link

okay except Chinaski

imago, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 17:17 (ten months ago) link

happy for Pato and Australia if they finish this. absolutely no desire to hear any whinging English casuals 'oooh Bazball is shite mate' fuck off, you hate cricket

imago, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:14 (ten months ago) link

I can't take another six weeks of this

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:18 (ten months ago) link

Bazbollocks

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:21 (ten months ago) link

... will be a headline in the Daily Star tomorrow.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:21 (ten months ago) link

great test match. be v interesting to see how england respond. they’ve had so many great results over the last 14 or so tests, because they’ve been able to put their foot down on the accelerator, to give themselves runs and time to beat teams in the second innings. stokes and others were v capable of building an innings but they were also capable of accruing runs incredibly quickly. they bat deep, are an experienced team, and they’ve got great, disciplined bowlers capable of taking wickets in all conditions. mccullum himself i believe has banned use of “bazball” in the dressing room.

here they had several weak points in the team. spin, and recent injuries to anderson and stokes. bairstow, if you like. that extremely high pressure approach is more fragile to that sort of raggedness at the edges.

also, some things never change, you gotta take your chances.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:40 (ten months ago) link

fwiw didn’t mind the declaration, should have let root hit out or get out tho.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:41 (ten months ago) link

Fair play to the Aussies - did what they needed to, basically. Always that feeling that we'd never win like that over there (2011 was different altogether).

Agreed the team is a bit ragged around the edges, particularly Bairstow and Moeen. I wonder if they'll go Dawson for the next test, assuming Mo's finger won't heal? Wood for Anderson, who looked like he was struggling throughout?

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:52 (ten months ago) link

from what anderson said he was just struggling to find his rhythm after a lay off from picking up a niggle, so he will back himself to improve over the series i’d imagine. i back him to have some pivotal moments!

more generally it was a fine, competitive test match and there’ll be a lot of crap written, but given the record of stokes, mccullum and team you back them to get to the right place. go again in two weeks’ time!

Fizzles, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:59 (ten months ago) link

lol (entertaining) england

re: The Declaration - tbf to B. Stokes, how would he know that they wouldn't be able to get Nathan Lyon out?

cocaine bear say hi to me (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:05 (ten months ago) link

Stokes said something in a post match interview about how England are not playing "results based cricket" and I thought the Aussies will love hearing that.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:18 (ten months ago) link

It's like my mother telling me how "taking part is what counts" after I entered a swimming race and finishing last was meant to make me feel better.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:43 (ten months ago) link

Look, after both teams had lost 18 wickets in total, England were ahead, so its a moral victory for me Clive

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:45 (ten months ago) link

also Joe Root is back, back, back as best batsman in the world in the ICC Rankings sponsored by MRF Tyres, so who are the REAL winners here?

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:49 (ten months ago) link

England were massive favourites with an hour to go. Needed two tailenders to play the innings of their lives. Had England their main spinner available, they'd have probably won. Unearthing a functional spinner is the priority before the remaining Tests

imago, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:56 (ten months ago) link

"results based cricket"

That's going to make for a truly thought leading LinkedIn update.

cocaine bear say hi to me (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:58 (ten months ago) link

"When your fast bowler with a history of racist tweets verbally abuses a Muslim opponent in an Ashes Test, do you start asking questions, or do you simply assume you already know the answers?"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jun/27/english-cricket-independent-commission-equity-prejudice-azeem-rafiq-racism

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 13:17 (ten months ago) link

good article, would quibble this though

a sport created and codified for the purpose of allowing rich white landowners to bet against each other

CLR James writes of how it was codified in the Victorian era as a means to establish sport as 'civilising' influence over the workers both at home and abroad and ofc quell resentment, but how the game itself was devised earlier - yes, with betting a crucial component

In all essentials the modern game was formed and shaped between
1778, when Hazlitt was born, and 1830, when he died. It was created
by the yeoman farmer, the gamekeeper, the potter, the tinker, the
Nottingham coal-miner, the Yorkshire factory hand. These artisans
made it, men of hand and eye. Rich and idle young noblemen and some
substantial city people contributed money, organization and prestige.
Between them, by 1837 they had evolved a highly complicated game
with all the typical characteristics of a genuinely national art form:
founded on elements long present in the nation, profoundly popular
in origin, yet attracting to it disinterested elements of the leisured and
educated classes. Confined to areas and numbers which were relatively
small, it contained all the premises of rapid growth. There was nothing
in the slightest degree Victorian about it. At their matches cricketers
ate and drank with the gusto of the time, sang songs and played for
large sums of money. Bookies sat before the pavilion at Lord's openly taking bets. The unscrupulous nobleman and the poor but dishonest
commoner alike bought and sold matches. Both Sir Donald Bradman
and Mr. Neville Cardus think that cricket is too complex a game to
encourage betting. The history of the game is against them. There is
nothing too complex for men to bet on. Cricket took its start from the
age in which it was born, both the good and the bad. That the good
could predominate was a testimony to the simple men who made it
and the life they lived.
The class of the population that seems to have contributed least
was the class destined to appropriate the game and convert it into
a national institution. This was the solid Victorian middle class.

not to take anything away from Liew's analysis of its current problems, which are well-observed and manifest across the game

imago, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:02 (ten months ago) link

That article is I want to say brutal but I guess just honest. Liew is on fire at the moment.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:37 (ten months ago) link

much to unpack here but one thing jumped out at me in all this: Lord's, the self-styled "home of cricket", has NEVER hosted a women's test match, and yet continues to provide the venue for the annual Eton v Harrow match.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link

just nice to see Stokes committing to being a saviour

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:30 (ten months ago) link

liew had to take a fair amount of shit from Jonathan Agnew a few years ago about his cricket writing iirc

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:02 (ten months ago) link

liew was right then and he's right now

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:03 (ten months ago) link

Aggers called Liew a cunt; then backtracked and blamed it on his meds.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:23 (ten months ago) link

Despise Agnew!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 09:19 (ten months ago) link

This is fucking idiotic.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:30 (ten months ago) link

Trying to attack the short stuff?

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:42 (ten months ago) link

Falling into the leg theory trap aye. Four wickets and counting (five if you count Root getting out twice).

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:47 (ten months ago) link

not great shot selection but batters are allowed to make mistakes on occasion, particularly JE Root. Stokes seems to be calming things down now.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 29 June 2023 16:57 (ten months ago) link

If England carry on like this I'll be back supporting them before the end of the series.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 30 June 2023 11:39 (ten months ago) link

I'm thinking we should go back to not talking about men's mental health

the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 12:02 (ten months ago) link

where to even start with all this

imago, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:09 (ten months ago) link

that Bairstow incident certainly got them going!

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:10 (ten months ago) link

*frantically checking Robinson and Tongue's first-class batting records*

imago, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:11 (ten months ago) link

I knew I should have put a tenner on England an hour or so ago when they were almost double figures to win this test

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:14 (ten months ago) link

it seems Broad has been caught on the stump mic calling them 'Same old cheating Aussies'

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:20 (ten months ago) link

Fucking hell, this is crazy.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:35 (ten months ago) link

Just need an Anderson half century now to win it.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 2 July 2023 14:36 (ten months ago) link

I put a pish £3 bet on England when they were 20/1 just in case there is another plot twist on the cards today

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:06 (ten months ago) link


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