oh stop it luckbox franchise man
― k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 20:04 (eleven months ago) link
wow 9 franchises have had more #1 picks than the spurs, sounds like a skill issue to me
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:33 (eleven months ago) link
spurs have mostly just been really good drafting and developing, and theyve had some timely lottery luck
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link
ya I’m just joshing
― k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 20:49 (eleven months ago) link
btw have we talked about ja morant's team all of a sudden saying "it was actually a toy gun" like 3 weeks after the fact haha
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:49 (eleven months ago) link
lol everyone thought of that one the first day they should go on twitter more
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:51 (eleven months ago) link
simmons and russillo have already started to try to get ahead of the pendulum swing on this one and argue for a pretty lenient penalty, not sure what others are saying, needless to say i’m stoked for the discourse
― k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 21:13 (eleven months ago) link
saw this somewhere
https://i.imgur.com/a5WWS4y.png
― lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:07 (eleven months ago) link
this should happen immediately
― ciderpress, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:09 (eleven months ago) link
we do love lamelo
― lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:10 (eleven months ago) link
https://theathletic.com/4599695/2023/06/10/raptors-hire-darko-rajakovic-coach/
Raps get a new coach.
― Cashews Everything Around Me (Leee), Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:18 (eleven months ago) link
so they... didnt waive cp?
“We did not waive Chris [Paul]… He’s just one of the great winners our game has ever seen… I’m really hopeful to have an opportunity to work with him.”New Suns head coach Frank Vogel weighs in on CP3's future in Phoenix 🗣️(via @TheVolumeSports)pic.twitter.com/Cm79DOrYNq— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) June 10, 2023
― Spottie, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:24 (eleven months ago) link
ya shams came out with a tweet like 30 mins later saying they were stil think bout it, however they still might waive him
― lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:37 (eleven months ago) link
I veto any jaylen brown trade to portland sorry to be a party pooper
― Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:52 (eleven months ago) link
what you should want jaylen
― lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:03 (eleven months ago) link
after game 7 I’m pretty down on jaylen also he is a bonehead. That trade presumably pushes portland way deep into taxville (assuming they resign jerami grant for a bazillion dollars which they will, unfortunately) and maybe gets them to like 5th in the west, not great!
― Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:09 (eleven months ago) link
the whole idea that portland can assemble an insta-winner around dame via trading for an all-star caliber veteran is very far-fetched. they lack too many pieces and the free agent market isn't fluid enough or deep enough for them to pick up a fistful of proven, solid players in one off-season. dame's backed the FO into a corner about making a big acquisition. they should just start shopping dame really hard, see what he could bring, and concentrate on a patient rebuild by developing or reclaiming younger guys.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:43 (eleven months ago) link
that is what i have been saying for 2 or 3 seasons now!
― Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:47 (eleven months ago) link
i also enjoy saying the famous phrase "reboot with scoot™"
― Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:48 (eleven months ago) link
i thought they should have traded cj before they maxed him, but the dame contract seems justified considering he's top level. by contrast moving cj might have allowed them to develop a more balanced roster and have cap space to keep them. it's all coulda shoulda woulda.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:11 (eleven months ago) link
sure portlands plan to continue to build around dame is doomed but seeing as theyre gonna do it theyre not gonna get better than jaylen
― lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:19 (eleven months ago) link
and maybe gets them to like 5th in the west, not great!
iirc there’s an 8 seed in the finals
― mookieproof, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:39 (eleven months ago) link
a well-coached 8 seed that's one of the best orgs in the league built specifically for the playoffs. dame + jaylen + grant + chauncey billups + an absolutely flailing FO is not that
― Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:41 (eleven months ago) link
heat, nuggets: welcome to the nba offseason
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 03:10 (eleven months ago) link
Aphex Twin 🙌🏽 🧘🏽♂️— Jeremy Sochan (@JeremySochan) June 4, 2023
as if i couldnt love him more
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 03:42 (eleven months ago) link
hahah nice
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 03:44 (eleven months ago) link
thinkin about the bucks and middleton, tough spot
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:37 (eleven months ago) link
yeah it sucks they probably can't win a title without him but he's constantly injured and also one of the NBA's premier hot-and-cold players right now
― frogbs, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:39 (eleven months ago) link
plus the new lux tax is bad for them, maybe they can get him to take some sort of reasonable deal
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:41 (eleven months ago) link
unclear if he can regain his previous form or even stay healthy at all
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:45 (eleven months ago) link
season recap
A year unlike any other.This was the 2022-2023 NBA Season.📺 https://t.co/Jar3o0Xcx5 pic.twitter.com/taQiuyT42D— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) June 13, 2023
― Spottie, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 18:03 (eleven months ago) link
new wizards president says he has permission from ownership to do a rebuild, wiz have some dece guys
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:44 (ten months ago) link
will be funny when they get more for kuz than beal or zinger
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:45 (ten months ago) link
wonder what toronto will do too, fred declined his option and is gone, they could get an absolute haul for siakim if they feel like getting a lil younger
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:50 (ten months ago) link
they really ought to trade him if they want to be Good again in the near future and not just okay for a while
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:34 (ten months ago) link
seems like a guy whose value is gonna fall off quickly from here and they're not currently contending so
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:35 (ten months ago) link
yeah toronto has so many good players but none that are like focal points offensively to make it all work. they owe SA their 2024 FRP unless it's top 6, so they have some incentive to suck next year.
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:36 (ten months ago) link
i'd think that OG and siakam could get them a ton of young players+picks. they have basically no salaries tied up in the long-term, so they could quickly pivot to a barnes-centered okc-style rebuild if they wanted, though the jakob poeltl trade makes less sense in that context.
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link
yeah, i tend to believe the line of thinking that the raptors tipped their hand by making the poetl trade. if they were planning on rebuilding that would be a weird move to make. it also seems like masai turned down mega offers for OG at the deadline despite his all but certain impending free agency. it seems like they still want to push it
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:45 (ten months ago) link
i do think "we're gonna go against all good sense and push for contention in the eastern conference" as a strategy seems less crazy given what we just watched in the playoffs than it did 2 months ago
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:47 (ten months ago) link
the skillsets of og, barnes, and siakam overlap too much. if i had to guess, they'll ship og and hold onto the others
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:50 (ten months ago) link
in terms of 2024 east contention you'd have to put toronto, at bare minimum, behind the bucks, celtics, sixers, and heat. but i could see them getting into the cavs/knicks second tier next year? brooklyn is dropping out and i still like toronto better than the hawks. given where the heat finished last year, and depending on how you feel about the knicks & cavs, you could reasonably say that 3 of the 6 non-play in seeds are very much up in play next season? i still think the cavs have a high floor for a regular season team & i think brunson gives the knicks the same, but if you want to see a path in the east it's certainly visible.
the last time we saw the raptors in the playoffs it wasn't very good but you can still dream on siakam, OG and barnes as the backbone of a strong playoff rotation if they can make the rest of the roster better
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:53 (ten months ago) link
given masai's track record of drafting & developing i think i would be loading up on assets and eyeing the next phase of the east in 3+ years when the current contenders will have aged stars and/or had major roster turnover but i do wonder if
a. ownership in toronto has gotten too used to packed arenas, playoff money, relevance etc b. masai himself looks at how he won a title w/ kawahi and thinks that a half-decade draft and develop rebuild is unnecessary
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:59 (ten months ago) link
id trade siakim keep og just cause ogs younger, try to build around og barnes draft picks etc
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:15 (ten months ago) link
it wouldnt be a full rebuild that way could be back in the mix in a couple years
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:16 (ten months ago) link
i think part of the issue is that siakam is currently the best player of the three but prob has the least trade value. you have to give up real assets for him & also re-sign him to an enormous deal covering his early 30s that pays him like a number 1 option when all available evidence as of now tells us that he's a good number 2 if you're trying to win for real. maybe the raptors weren't really offered 4 firsts for OG but if they were i have to imagine that outstrips offers for siakam
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:24 (ten months ago) link
yeah og might have a lil more value but i think theyd still get a ton for pascal, hed be amazing for a fringe contender looking to step up to the bigtime
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:31 (ten months ago) link
siakam for middleton, dooo it
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:35 (ten months ago) link
if siakam gets all nba again this season this would be his next deal w/ the raptors. there's no incentive for him to push for a trade or sign a new deal there, but i have no idea why toronto would want to do this. yet a trading team has to swallow the asset forfeiture + mega extension combo... and for what?
2024-25: $50,050,0002025-26: $54,054,0002026-27: $58,058,0002027-28: $62,062,0002028-29: $66,066,000Total: Five years, $290,290,000
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:36 (ten months ago) link
to get a really good player
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:38 (ten months ago) link