stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

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yeah and the word from the cap heads is that teams like the thunder might find themselves in a tough spot with a bunch of potentially good players all needing contracts at once

k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 18:40 (ten months ago) link

they already have way too many picks, i saw this with the late ainge celtics, it's very easy to suddenly have too many picks

call all destroyer, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:42 (ten months ago) link

the new cba sucks. the current one was just starting to work as intended.

Spottie, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:28 (ten months ago) link

xp this was always the weird thing about okc trading for so many picks, whats the point if you never cash them in for a big piece? you cant play 20 guys that you draft in 7 years or w/e

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:54 (ten months ago) link

hopefully the spurs dont make the same mistake, they should be trying to trade up into the midfirst round to get another guy to go with wembanyama.

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:55 (ten months ago) link

oh stop it luckbox franchise man

k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 20:04 (ten months ago) link

wow 9 franchises have had more #1 picks than the spurs, sounds like a skill issue to me

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:33 (ten months ago) link

spurs have mostly just been really good drafting and developing, and theyve had some timely lottery luck

lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:42 (ten months ago) link

ya I’m just joshing

k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 20:49 (ten months ago) link

btw have we talked about ja morant's team all of a sudden saying "it was actually a toy gun" like 3 weeks after the fact haha

lol everyone thought of that one the first day they should go on twitter more

lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:51 (ten months ago) link

simmons and russillo have already started to try to get ahead of the pendulum swing on this one and argue for a pretty lenient penalty, not sure what others are saying, needless to say i’m stoked for the discourse

k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 21:13 (ten months ago) link

saw this somewhere

https://i.imgur.com/a5WWS4y.png

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:07 (ten months ago) link

this should happen immediately

ciderpress, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:09 (ten months ago) link

we do love lamelo

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:10 (ten months ago) link

so they... didnt waive cp?

“We did not waive Chris [Paul]… He’s just one of the great winners our game has ever seen… I’m really hopeful to have an opportunity to work with him.”

New Suns head coach Frank Vogel weighs in on CP3's future in Phoenix 🗣️

(via @TheVolumeSports)pic.twitter.com/Cm79DOrYNq

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) June 10, 2023

Spottie, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:24 (ten months ago) link

ya shams came out with a tweet like 30 mins later saying they were stil think bout it, however they still might waive him

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:37 (ten months ago) link

I veto any jaylen brown trade to portland sorry to be a party pooper

Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:52 (ten months ago) link

what you should want jaylen

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:03 (ten months ago) link

after game 7 I’m pretty down on jaylen also he is a bonehead. That trade presumably pushes portland way deep into taxville (assuming they resign jerami grant for a bazillion dollars which they will, unfortunately) and maybe gets them to like 5th in the west, not great!

Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:09 (ten months ago) link

the whole idea that portland can assemble an insta-winner around dame via trading for an all-star caliber veteran is very far-fetched. they lack too many pieces and the free agent market isn't fluid enough or deep enough for them to pick up a fistful of proven, solid players in one off-season. dame's backed the FO into a corner about making a big acquisition. they should just start shopping dame really hard, see what he could bring, and concentrate on a patient rebuild by developing or reclaiming younger guys.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:43 (ten months ago) link

that is what i have been saying for 2 or 3 seasons now!

Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:47 (ten months ago) link

i also enjoy saying the famous phrase "reboot with scoot™"

Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:48 (ten months ago) link

i thought they should have traded cj before they maxed him, but the dame contract seems justified considering he's top level. by contrast moving cj might have allowed them to develop a more balanced roster and have cap space to keep them. it's all coulda shoulda woulda.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:11 (ten months ago) link

sure portlands plan to continue to build around dame is doomed but seeing as theyre gonna do it theyre not gonna get better than jaylen

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:19 (ten months ago) link

and maybe gets them to like 5th in the west, not great!

iirc there’s an 8 seed in the finals

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:39 (ten months ago) link

a well-coached 8 seed that's one of the best orgs in the league built specifically for the playoffs. dame + jaylen + grant + chauncey billups + an absolutely flailing FO is not that

Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:41 (ten months ago) link

heat, nuggets: welcome to the nba offseason

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 03:10 (ten months ago) link

Aphex Twin 🙌🏽 🧘🏽‍♂️

— Jeremy Sochan (@JeremySochan) June 4, 2023

as if i couldnt love him more

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 03:42 (ten months ago) link

hahah nice

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 03:44 (ten months ago) link

thinkin about the bucks and middleton, tough spot

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:37 (ten months ago) link

yeah it sucks they probably can't win a title without him but he's constantly injured and also one of the NBA's premier hot-and-cold players right now

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:39 (ten months ago) link

plus the new lux tax is bad for them, maybe they can get him to take some sort of reasonable deal

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:41 (ten months ago) link

unclear if he can regain his previous form or even stay healthy at all

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:45 (ten months ago) link

season recap

A year unlike any other.
This was the 2022-2023 NBA Season.

📺 https://t.co/Jar3o0Xcx5 pic.twitter.com/taQiuyT42D

— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) June 13, 2023

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 18:03 (ten months ago) link

new wizards president says he has permission from ownership to do a rebuild, wiz have some dece guys

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:44 (ten months ago) link

will be funny when they get more for kuz than beal or zinger

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:45 (ten months ago) link

wonder what toronto will do too, fred declined his option and is gone, they could get an absolute haul for siakim if they feel like getting a lil younger

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:50 (ten months ago) link

they really ought to trade him if they want to be Good again in the near future and not just okay for a while

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:34 (ten months ago) link

seems like a guy whose value is gonna fall off quickly from here and they're not currently contending so

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:35 (ten months ago) link

yeah toronto has so many good players but none that are like focal points offensively to make it all work. they owe SA their 2024 FRP unless it's top 6, so they have some incentive to suck next year.

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:36 (ten months ago) link

i'd think that OG and siakam could get them a ton of young players+picks. they have basically no salaries tied up in the long-term, so they could quickly pivot to a barnes-centered okc-style rebuild if they wanted, though the jakob poeltl trade makes less sense in that context.

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link

yeah, i tend to believe the line of thinking that the raptors tipped their hand by making the poetl trade. if they were planning on rebuilding that would be a weird move to make. it also seems like masai turned down mega offers for OG at the deadline despite his all but certain impending free agency. it seems like they still want to push it

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:45 (ten months ago) link

i do think "we're gonna go against all good sense and push for contention in the eastern conference" as a strategy seems less crazy given what we just watched in the playoffs than it did 2 months ago

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:47 (ten months ago) link

the skillsets of og, barnes, and siakam overlap too much. if i had to guess, they'll ship og and hold onto the others

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:50 (ten months ago) link

in terms of 2024 east contention you'd have to put toronto, at bare minimum, behind the bucks, celtics, sixers, and heat. but i could see them getting into the cavs/knicks second tier next year? brooklyn is dropping out and i still like toronto better than the hawks. given where the heat finished last year, and depending on how you feel about the knicks & cavs, you could reasonably say that 3 of the 6 non-play in seeds are very much up in play next season? i still think the cavs have a high floor for a regular season team & i think brunson gives the knicks the same, but if you want to see a path in the east it's certainly visible.

the last time we saw the raptors in the playoffs it wasn't very good but you can still dream on siakam, OG and barnes as the backbone of a strong playoff rotation if they can make the rest of the roster better

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:53 (ten months ago) link

given masai's track record of drafting & developing i think i would be loading up on assets and eyeing the next phase of the east in 3+ years when the current contenders will have aged stars and/or had major roster turnover but i do wonder if

a. ownership in toronto has gotten too used to packed arenas, playoff money, relevance etc
b. masai himself looks at how he won a title w/ kawahi and thinks that a half-decade draft and develop rebuild is unnecessary

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:59 (ten months ago) link

id trade siakim keep og just cause ogs younger, try to build around og barnes draft picks etc

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:15 (ten months ago) link

it wouldnt be a full rebuild that way could be back in the mix in a couple years

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:16 (ten months ago) link


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