stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

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https://www.denverpost.com/2023/06/09/nuggets-trade-draft-picks-oklahoma-city/

if I’m reading this right, the nuggets traded a protected 2029 first round pick and in exchange got…2 firsts and a second?

k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 16:50 (ten months ago) link

that is my basic understanding of it

call all destroyer, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:04 (ten months ago) link

a first and 2 seconds but yeah it doesn't necessarily add up

ciderpress, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:05 (ten months ago) link

i guess OKC have too many picks so they're trading down a bit to defer a first round pick? maybe they think they'll be good next year and/or they think the draft pool will suck?

ciderpress, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:09 (ten months ago) link

Also a bet that by 2029 the Jokic/Murray team will be on the downside and that pick might be better than their own.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:12 (ten months ago) link

would depend what the protections are on the pick if that's their angle

ciderpress, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:18 (ten months ago) link

yeah so okc trades from their glut of current 1sts for a future first that has a chance to be good. denver adds some late 1sts in the near term to have a pipeline of cheap talent to add to the team. with the more restrictive CBA teams like denver need homegrown talent more than ever.

call all destroyer, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:33 (ten months ago) link

yeah and the word from the cap heads is that teams like the thunder might find themselves in a tough spot with a bunch of potentially good players all needing contracts at once

k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 18:40 (ten months ago) link

they already have way too many picks, i saw this with the late ainge celtics, it's very easy to suddenly have too many picks

call all destroyer, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:42 (ten months ago) link

the new cba sucks. the current one was just starting to work as intended.

Spottie, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:28 (ten months ago) link

xp this was always the weird thing about okc trading for so many picks, whats the point if you never cash them in for a big piece? you cant play 20 guys that you draft in 7 years or w/e

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:54 (ten months ago) link

hopefully the spurs dont make the same mistake, they should be trying to trade up into the midfirst round to get another guy to go with wembanyama.

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:55 (ten months ago) link

oh stop it luckbox franchise man

k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 20:04 (ten months ago) link

wow 9 franchises have had more #1 picks than the spurs, sounds like a skill issue to me

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:33 (ten months ago) link

spurs have mostly just been really good drafting and developing, and theyve had some timely lottery luck

lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:42 (ten months ago) link

ya I’m just joshing

k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 20:49 (ten months ago) link

btw have we talked about ja morant's team all of a sudden saying "it was actually a toy gun" like 3 weeks after the fact haha

lol everyone thought of that one the first day they should go on twitter more

lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:51 (ten months ago) link

simmons and russillo have already started to try to get ahead of the pendulum swing on this one and argue for a pretty lenient penalty, not sure what others are saying, needless to say i’m stoked for the discourse

k3vin k., Friday, 9 June 2023 21:13 (ten months ago) link

saw this somewhere

https://i.imgur.com/a5WWS4y.png

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:07 (ten months ago) link

this should happen immediately

ciderpress, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:09 (ten months ago) link

we do love lamelo

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 20:10 (ten months ago) link

so they... didnt waive cp?

“We did not waive Chris [Paul]… He’s just one of the great winners our game has ever seen… I’m really hopeful to have an opportunity to work with him.”

New Suns head coach Frank Vogel weighs in on CP3's future in Phoenix 🗣️

(via @TheVolumeSports)pic.twitter.com/Cm79DOrYNq

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) June 10, 2023

Spottie, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:24 (ten months ago) link

ya shams came out with a tweet like 30 mins later saying they were stil think bout it, however they still might waive him

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:37 (ten months ago) link

I veto any jaylen brown trade to portland sorry to be a party pooper

Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:52 (ten months ago) link

what you should want jaylen

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:03 (ten months ago) link

after game 7 I’m pretty down on jaylen also he is a bonehead. That trade presumably pushes portland way deep into taxville (assuming they resign jerami grant for a bazillion dollars which they will, unfortunately) and maybe gets them to like 5th in the west, not great!

Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:09 (ten months ago) link

the whole idea that portland can assemble an insta-winner around dame via trading for an all-star caliber veteran is very far-fetched. they lack too many pieces and the free agent market isn't fluid enough or deep enough for them to pick up a fistful of proven, solid players in one off-season. dame's backed the FO into a corner about making a big acquisition. they should just start shopping dame really hard, see what he could bring, and concentrate on a patient rebuild by developing or reclaiming younger guys.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:43 (ten months ago) link

that is what i have been saying for 2 or 3 seasons now!

Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:47 (ten months ago) link

i also enjoy saying the famous phrase "reboot with scoot™"

Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:48 (ten months ago) link

i thought they should have traded cj before they maxed him, but the dame contract seems justified considering he's top level. by contrast moving cj might have allowed them to develop a more balanced roster and have cap space to keep them. it's all coulda shoulda woulda.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:11 (ten months ago) link

sure portlands plan to continue to build around dame is doomed but seeing as theyre gonna do it theyre not gonna get better than jaylen

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:19 (ten months ago) link

and maybe gets them to like 5th in the west, not great!

iirc there’s an 8 seed in the finals

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:39 (ten months ago) link

a well-coached 8 seed that's one of the best orgs in the league built specifically for the playoffs. dame + jaylen + grant + chauncey billups + an absolutely flailing FO is not that

Clay, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:41 (ten months ago) link

heat, nuggets: welcome to the nba offseason

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 03:10 (ten months ago) link

Aphex Twin 🙌🏽 🧘🏽‍♂️

— Jeremy Sochan (@JeremySochan) June 4, 2023

as if i couldnt love him more

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 03:42 (ten months ago) link

hahah nice

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 03:44 (ten months ago) link

thinkin about the bucks and middleton, tough spot

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:37 (ten months ago) link

yeah it sucks they probably can't win a title without him but he's constantly injured and also one of the NBA's premier hot-and-cold players right now

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:39 (ten months ago) link

plus the new lux tax is bad for them, maybe they can get him to take some sort of reasonable deal

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:41 (ten months ago) link

unclear if he can regain his previous form or even stay healthy at all

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:45 (ten months ago) link

season recap

A year unlike any other.
This was the 2022-2023 NBA Season.

📺 https://t.co/Jar3o0Xcx5 pic.twitter.com/taQiuyT42D

— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) June 13, 2023

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 18:03 (ten months ago) link

new wizards president says he has permission from ownership to do a rebuild, wiz have some dece guys

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:44 (ten months ago) link

will be funny when they get more for kuz than beal or zinger

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:45 (ten months ago) link

wonder what toronto will do too, fred declined his option and is gone, they could get an absolute haul for siakim if they feel like getting a lil younger

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:50 (ten months ago) link

they really ought to trade him if they want to be Good again in the near future and not just okay for a while

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:34 (ten months ago) link

seems like a guy whose value is gonna fall off quickly from here and they're not currently contending so

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:35 (ten months ago) link

yeah toronto has so many good players but none that are like focal points offensively to make it all work. they owe SA their 2024 FRP unless it's top 6, so they have some incentive to suck next year.

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:36 (ten months ago) link

i'd think that OG and siakam could get them a ton of young players+picks. they have basically no salaries tied up in the long-term, so they could quickly pivot to a barnes-centered okc-style rebuild if they wanted, though the jakob poeltl trade makes less sense in that context.

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link


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