Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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the decision to indict in Florida rather than DC

― Ned Raggett, Friday, June 9, 2023 11:20 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

seems like dc would be better from a jury pov

lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:47 (ten months ago) link

Florida has better beaches imo

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:48 (ten months ago) link

little-read Corvette

this sped by too fast

serving bundt (sic), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:49 (ten months ago) link

my understanding is this was moved to Florida as most of the events in question happened there, which means it will be harder to challenge the venue and slow down the entire process

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:51 (ten months ago) link

Also worth noting that it was the grand jury IN Florida that signed off on the indictments, so.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:52 (ten months ago) link

Breaking: Trump announces on Truth Social that Todd Blanche will be his criminal defense attorney in the Mar-a-Lago docs case with another firm yet to be named. Jim Trusty and John Rowley are out.

— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 9, 2023

Per ppl familiar: Blanche — also the attorney for Trump adviser and in-house counsel Boris Epshteyn — for several weeks has been seen by Trump advisers as the “head honcho” of the legal team in the docs case.

— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 9, 2023

Let's get honched.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:53 (ten months ago) link

Honchin' on Boris

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:54 (ten months ago) link

Rowley and Trusty issue joint statement saying they won’t be making media appearances discussing their departure, a clear shot at Tim Parlatore, who appeared on CNN and blamed Boris Epshteyn for why he left.

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 9, 2023

Slightly relatedly, though, it was Parlatore who pretty much said Boris Epshteyn as gatekeeper was a big problem for trying to get Trump to understand what he was dealing with. So when you've got the attorney for that guy as your own attorney, well, roffle.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:57 (ten months ago) link

Trump says he has learned his personal aide, Walt Nauta, who came with him to Florida from the White House, has been indicted: pic.twitter.com/qmBbOLc1cG

— Meridith McGraw (@meridithmcgraw) June 9, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:00 (ten months ago) link

ooh

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:01 (ten months ago) link

Ha, was waiting on that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:04 (ten months ago) link

I think Trump's only recourse is to represent himself.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:04 (ten months ago) link

lol "Thugs"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:04 (ten months ago) link

As one of the general categories of charges against Trump apparently involves conspiracy, by default you have to be conspiring WITH someone, so.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:06 (ten months ago) link

I know it's unseemly to have a favorite Trump brain-bubble, but I do, and it's when he not only refers to himself in the third person but puts his name in quotes. Makes me laugh every time.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:10 (ten months ago) link

"Thugs from the Department of Injustice" was an underrated PE album.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:11 (ten months ago) link

DOJ are a joke in your town

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:12 (ten months ago) link

I like how he lauds Nauta as "a member of the US Navy," an obvious flag-wave to all the military supporters. We love our military, right folks? Unless you're Col. Vindman, then not so much.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:34 (ten months ago) link

what a fabulous batch of news updates to wake up to

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:42 (ten months ago) link

Perimeter probe = the opposing side is looking at what you are doing.

Buckle up = gear up

Rock steady = man up

1/50 = mapping scaling description for terrain and distance (where are assets like bridges)

I don't think this is subtle. pic.twitter.com/pzWd3a1yFM

— Juliette Kayyem (@juliettekayyem) June 9, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:47 (ten months ago) link

still find it hard to believe Trump will suffer any consequences but then again I didn't think he'd actually be on tape admitting to serious crimes

frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:51 (ten months ago) link

based on what i know about that guy, for him that's vv subtle. he's one of the fringiest fringe dwellers of the admittedly very fringy nu-GOP

omar little, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:53 (ten months ago) link

you mean this guy? seems fine to me

@RepClayHiggins pushing an activist for asking tough questions is supposed to be normal? pic.twitter.com/CQx6s3PCQ3

— Kristy Fogle PA-C (@kristyfoglePAC) May 17, 2023

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:59 (ten months ago) link

https://www.rawstory.com/rep-clay-higgins/

Sharlet, whose latest book, The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War, features in-depth reporting on right-wing extremists, warned that the GOP lawmaker appeared to be calling for an insurgency.

"Deep scary: 1/50 k refers to military scale maps & publicly available US Geological Survey maps of areas mostly surrounding military installations," Sharlet said. "This isn’t a metaphor. This isn’t slow civil war. This is a congressman calling for the real thing."

"I think this is scary as hell," he added.

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:06 (ten months ago) link

More from Costa (good and well-sourced reporter, BTW, would tend to take his threads on-board):

(Thread) learning some new things this morning about WHY this all happened and the motivation, especially for the audio from 2021 discussing classified material. In short, it comes down to one person: *Milley.* Trump loathed his coverage in press, in books, per multiple sources…

— Robert Costa (@costareports) June 9, 2023

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:17 (ten months ago) link

The question isn't "What is Clay Higgins calling for?" but "Who listens when Clay Higgins opens his stupid fat mouth?" and the answer, I believe, is "nobody."

To paraphrase Stalin, how many divisions does Clay Higgins have?

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:19 (ten months ago) link

Milley Cyrus

Is also (spoiler alert) Hannity Montannity

sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:31 (ten months ago) link

Hiding the files like yeah

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:37 (ten months ago) link

BREAKING: INDICTMENT UNSEALED @CBSNews https://t.co/UHnXSNF8zJ

— Robert Costa (@costareports) June 9, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:45 (ten months ago) link

LOL @ PARA 4.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:48 (ten months ago) link

"the beautiful mind paper boxes"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:49 (ten months ago) link

lol at pgs. 15-16

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:49 (ten months ago) link

Mind Paper Boxes is my next band ne

sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:50 (ten months ago) link

*name

sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:50 (ten months ago) link

"I don't want anybody looking through my boxes."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:51 (ten months ago) link

Love the little flashbacks to his presidential declarations abt classified info

omar little, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:55 (ten months ago) link

Handy, really.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:59 (ten months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/ZXNZ2nt.jpeg

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:00 (ten months ago) link

you know, pluck it out

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:02 (ten months ago) link

If thy classified document offend thee

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:03 (ten months ago) link

Said to his lawyers: “Wouldn’t it be better if we just told them we don’t have anything here?”

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:06 (ten months ago) link

Is it bad? Good?

mh, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:09 (ten months ago) link

Sounds like Jack Smith is due to give general media remarks in a little under an hour.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:10 (ten months ago) link

over/under on how long they've had this sitting in drafts:

Bringing this back in light of recent news:

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— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) June 9, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:17 (ten months ago) link

This isn't worse than expected; if you think it is, then your imagination has been asleep since June 2015. This is what this man was always capable of, too stupid to hide his crimes and too confident about never being caught.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:19 (ten months ago) link

So indicted for 38 counts, not 7 as was previously reported. Oof.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:24 (ten months ago) link

I mean this guy's reputation is that no matter how dumb he appears to be he at least knows how to play "the system", be it show business, political media, the law, tax codes, etc., and yet here he is declaring that he's committed a federal crime, providing proof of said crime, and acknowledging that he knows it's a crime, all while he's being recorded...may be the only time I say this but I really didn't think Donald Trump was that stupid

frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:25 (ten months ago) link

lmao when matt levine thinks you've done crime in an amusing way, you know you're in trouble

"is you taking notes on a criminal conspiracy" etc., but it is kind of great that every time trump sort of hinted to his lawyers that they should do crimes, they took copious notes like "i took this to be a hint that we should do crimes," and handed them right over.

— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) June 9, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:26 (ten months ago) link

Don't forget he at one time was saying all the documents were planted

omar little, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:27 (ten months ago) link

At least this halfwit gets it:

The problem for Trump -- you can "but Hillary" and "but Biden" all you want, but they have Trump on tape admitting he is showing classified documents that have not been declassified and he is showing them to people without proper clearance.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) June 9, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:27 (ten months ago) link


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