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Today's Daily Record front page leads on Primal Scream’s keyboard player Martin Duffy's son telling an inquest his dad died penniless after the band cut him out of a £5million deal #ScotPapers pic.twitter.com/JOMcIo4xNi

— The Daily Record (@Daily_Record) June 7, 2023

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 22:30 (ten months ago) link

Gutted for Duffy, and respect for his son in speaking up.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:05 (ten months ago) link

What a dick, money does some strange things to people.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:49 (ten months ago) link

I'm gonna tell the truth, the truth about you
Truth about you, you never been true

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 8 June 2023 01:48 (ten months ago) link

A major prat.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 8 June 2023 01:49 (ten months ago) link

Boab treated Denise Johnson like shit and diminished the value of her musical contributions as well and stuff about it came out after her passing. I don't listen to them but it seems quite clear he doesn't like paying people he works with and is a shit person to work with.

Ironic given that he's been entirely dependent on the musicians he's worked with his entire career, from Jim Beattie onwards.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 06:35 (ten months ago) link

such a mediocrity is always going to be reliant on more talented musicians, which makes it even worse that he had a long-standing band member living on scraps while he was getting rich. What a dick.

calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:13 (ten months ago) link

tbf he probably is entirely responsible for their scintillating lyrics

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:20 (ten months ago) link

remember when i got back from the toilet at the king and queen pub in primrose hill and he’d just sat down next to my gf and was chatting her up. never forgiven.

Fizzles, Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:23 (ten months ago) link

christ what an awful story

given that everyone apart from innes and gillespie seem to have been hired hands for a while i have to wonder if they pulled something similar with throb before he died

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:25 (ten months ago) link

at least Frank Zappa didn't pretend to be a socialist and would speak completely openly about not giving his band a penny of the royalties. I don't particularly like him either, though at least it was amusing listening to him talking about how his band members don't deserve shit in a bbc interview!

calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:36 (ten months ago) link

From February 2021..

Martin: "I'm English, Bobby."

Boab: "Ur ye? Who ur you again?"

Martin: "Martin Duffy? Keyboards? I've been in the band for 30 years?"

Boab: "'zat a fact? (to Andrew) Here, whit's wi' aw these English cunts in the band, Andra? It's like we're no' even a Scottish band anymair!"

Many a true word spoken on jest etc

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 09:16 (ten months ago) link

I saw PS back in the late 80s supporting the Butthole Surfers. They were completely fucking abominable, I always wondered how they attained the level of mild competence they later displayed and I'd guess that the subsequent addition of Martin Duffy played a large part in that. As noted above, at least Zappa was honest about treating everyone around him like shit and didn't try to pass himself off as a socialist!

just the sound of four guys smelting in a room (Matt #2), Thursday, 8 June 2023 09:24 (ten months ago) link

truly the brewdog of music

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 11:14 (ten months ago) link

What was that one album called - Cash In But Don't Pay Out?

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 11:17 (ten months ago) link

some people on Twitter are hinting that they treated Throb the same way - and reading his Wikipedia page there are some shocking similarities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Young_(musician)

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 June 2023 11:58 (ten months ago) link

Have to wonder what sort of deal Kevin Shields had.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 June 2023 11:59 (ten months ago) link

Obviously being in a band with people with addictions and substance abuse problems is hard work but, inevitably you feel, Bobby can't help but be just a teensy bit boastful about it...

Bobby Gillespie: ‘Primal Scream prided itself on being able to take more drugs than any other band’

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 12:10 (ten months ago) link

when you're so debauched and out of control, but yet still finding that focus you require to have meetings with the accountant and screw people over.

calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 12:22 (ten months ago) link

i just saw the Louie Duffy statement

what a cunt Gillespie is

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 June 2023 12:25 (ten months ago) link

I used to see him as a joke figure, a rather stupid and pretentious fool trying very hard to project some ridiculous idea of cool and coming off like a total knobhead. But now I just think he's a fucking evil cnut.

calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 12:41 (ten months ago) link

Ugh

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 12:52 (ten months ago) link

Bobby is a jobby.

Weatherall must have been on some very strong drugs to have been a fan of this band before making them sound half-decent for a couple of tracks.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 8 June 2023 12:53 (ten months ago) link

Always remember Weatherall signing off his radio shows with the words "don't let the grubby little opportunists grind you down". Anyway,back to Bobby Gillespie...

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 12:58 (ten months ago) link

Wild how it's now OK to think badly about Bobby Gillespie because of the Martin Duffy thing, yet this was never picked up on (from Miki's autobiography). High as a kite or not, why would this ever be acceptable behaviour? pic.twitter.com/1bRZVHg1Lp

— Frankosonic (@frankosonic) June 8, 2023

stirmonster, Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:11 (ten months ago) link

who is Travis?

calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:18 (ten months ago) link

Trump was right about Bobby Gillespie then.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:19 (ten months ago) link

(xp) Geoff?

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:19 (ten months ago) link

Dave Lee?

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:23 (ten months ago) link

From the C86 book by Nige Tassell

Interview with the original tambourine player from Primal Scream about their first deal.

Interesting given the inquest statement from Duffy’s son.

It appears like it was Primal Scream’s/Bobby Gillespie’s MO pic.twitter.com/9at1YSx7QN

— Nev Homer (@nevhomer) June 8, 2023

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:30 (ten months ago) link

Bickle? xp

stirmonster, Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:32 (ten months ago) link

there might be a multitude of disgusting old lechs with the surname Travis in the music biz

calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:36 (ten months ago) link

@MichaelAHann Bobby Gillespie was responsible for the most life-threatening stage idiocy I’ve ever witnessed, at Shepherds Bush Empire back in June 2001. As told by Mine Watt in his tour diary https://t.co/ZRVO4jNE8o pic.twitter.com/kefdKQB0tv

— Stet (@Letitstandnow) June 8, 2023

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:42 (ten months ago) link

this in the replies - fucking hell

And if this account is correct, unsurprisingly, he didn’t even get his target https://t.co/tBDvRKz0ps pic.twitter.com/9dMGZqmbSy

— Stet (@Letitstandnow) June 8, 2023

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 June 2023 15:12 (ten months ago) link

Literally adding insult to injury: pic.twitter.com/F8KWLnupE9

— Kenny (@wingnutkj) June 8, 2023

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 15:22 (ten months ago) link

Never trust Bobby Gillespie pic.twitter.com/U7DtnaK4MW

— Kunt and the Gang (@kuntandthegang) June 8, 2023

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 15:47 (ten months ago) link

Weird, I would have thought junkies were good people.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 8 June 2023 15:50 (ten months ago) link

Weird, I would have thought junkies were good people.


yeah it’s definitely his drug use that makes him bad. Jesus Christ.

brimstead, Thursday, 8 June 2023 15:58 (ten months ago) link

Seems like he and Innes got cuntier after getting sober?

serving bundt (sic), Thursday, 8 June 2023 15:59 (ten months ago) link

sorry, I don’t want to get into it.

brimstead, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:03 (ten months ago) link

His drug of choice is (or was) speed anyway

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:04 (ten months ago) link

Imagine the upcoming crystal palace bowl gig offers excellent opportunities for lobbing bottles of piss at Boab.

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:12 (ten months ago) link

(xp) So he claims. I bet it was coke though.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:14 (ten months ago) link

amphetamines could explain his habit of uninhibitedly talking a lot of self-aggrandising shite for years. He was probably already like that but it would certainly make it much worse.

calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:14 (ten months ago) link

I remember an interview with Justine Frichmann, she was flatsharing with him around '97, she said he was too paranoid to ever answer the door, which sounds more like speed than coke.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:16 (ten months ago) link

Speed's more street and rock and roll than admitting you're a run of the mill coked up music biz arsehole

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:16 (ten months ago) link

poor tenement boys can't afford coke!

calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:18 (ten months ago) link

Thanks to Andy Weatherall he could!

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:18 (ten months ago) link

upcoming crystal palace bowl gig

Me and the kid have stuck our email addresses in the draw for free tickets for locals. Plan was always to go and get chips after the Mary Chain anyway, and this seals the deal.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:26 (ten months ago) link


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