Soda Stereo & Gustavo Cerati

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61 hours though!

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 21:17 (ten months ago) link

So far so good though.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 22:00 (ten months ago) link

She seems to have a good bolero playlist too. Only seven hours.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 22:02 (ten months ago) link

Have now played 50 songs of 61 hour playlist and so far it’s been pretty enjoyable. Lots of Soda album tracks with maybe one or two hits of theirs so far interspersed with other unfamiliar stuff.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 03:38 (ten months ago) link

“Adiós” has an interesting phrasing of the melody that is difficult to sing without counting or paying extra attention to the drums etc.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 June 2023 01:37 (ten months ago) link

Most of the time he starts singing on the 2 of the bar. There is a heavy pattern played by the drums and the rest of the band leading up to it: TWO THREE Four and One!

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 June 2023 01:46 (ten months ago) link

There’s also usually a crash on FOUR before that.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 June 2023 03:19 (ten months ago) link

What’s your opinion on Cerati’s Bocanada?

My father let me use one of his cars for a year and it was one of those cars that let you load 4/5 cds but one of them got stuck and it got fucked and I couldn’t load anything else other than those initial 5 cds and one of them was Bocanada. It ended up being one of my most listened albums of all time. I think due to overexposure it’s the Cerati work I appreciate the most.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 10 June 2023 03:52 (ten months ago) link

i think bocanada is his best work and it's one of five cds stuck in my car by choice

butch wig (diamonddave85), Saturday, 10 June 2023 04:03 (ten months ago) link

Ha!

I don’t know Bocanada that well– yet! But give me time. I’m sort of backing into through the hits, such as they are, such as “Puente” and “Paseo Inmoral.” Also love that first track, “Tabu.” I believe it was considered some kind of departure for him and that Ahí Vamos was viewed as return to form, to rock.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 June 2023 04:24 (ten months ago) link

“Canción Animal” also has the thing of the vocal starting on the two of the bar.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 June 2023 12:58 (ten months ago) link

Yet another guest appearance!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ5zn1Vvd2I

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 June 2023 17:49 (ten months ago) link

This one too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM7g9wbmjgs

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 June 2023 18:38 (ten months ago) link

There's a whole compilation album of this kind of stuff.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sat%C3%A9lite_Cerati

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:24 (ten months ago) link

Wears pretty thin in that context though imho

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 June 2023 22:33 (ten months ago) link

That No Lo Soporto video is fun. With Gustavo in dual roles!

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:17 (ten months ago) link

Don’t think I posted the Bajofondo video yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FakWEAvZE4g

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:20 (ten months ago) link

Upcoming Netflix doc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmnkpeYIrb4

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 17:27 (ten months ago) link

Wonder if I should watch the Fito Paez one?

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 17:29 (ten months ago) link

Really like "Pulsar"!

If anyone's interested I can make a 10 soda stereo 10 cerati songs playlist - keeping in mind you don't speak spanish and his lyrics are pretty much the point - with a selection of his songs.

― Moka, Thursday, September 4, 2014 5:21 PM (eight years ago)

If anyone's interested in putting together something like this, I'd be grateful - Soda Stereo alone have over a dozen compilations in their discography and not sure how they compare.

etc, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 20:34 (ten months ago) link

This comp is one I went to in the beginning although it is missing "Prófugos"! Maybe it wasn't much of a radio hit or something, even though it is a very well-known track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxoPtgj98o

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:07 (ten months ago) link

Actually there are some tracks on this I still don't know! Maybe Moka can make a better playlist.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:08 (ten months ago) link

This comp is okay too, I’ve also spent time with it, but don’t have it mastered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_Ver%C3%A1s_Volver?wprov=sfti1

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:15 (ten months ago) link

Problem with the comps, I see now, is that they have some earlier angular post-punk funk tracks (like very early Go-Betweens?) that I don’t really care about that much.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:17 (ten months ago) link

Maybe best place to start is one of the live albums? Although even then they are both double albums, but split into two so you can just focus on a smaller portion for a while.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:22 (ten months ago) link

Ooo wee I forgot I posted that!, it sounds like a gargantuan task nowadays lol

there should be a division between my personal favorites and the ones I think everyone needs to listen to …

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:24 (ten months ago) link

Easiest path is to start with Cancion Animal for Soda and Bocanada for Cerati

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:25 (ten months ago) link

^This is not a bad suggestion

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:30 (ten months ago) link

I’ve been listening to this stuff a ton for the better part of a year now and still haven’t gotten anywhere near the bottom of it.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:31 (ten months ago) link

Like in theory now that my original Gustavo bro-crush is dying down a bit I should be able to just put him up on the shelf, but nope.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:37 (ten months ago) link

Un hombre alado etc

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:37 (ten months ago) link

Not to be confused with a Lobo Hombre.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:38 (ten months ago) link

Revisiting his solo career and I hadn’t really contextualized his music on release date and it’s blowing my mind how in 1992 he was so ahead of the curve. I always assumed a song like “Cozumel” was from the mid 90s. Noone in latinamerica understood and implemented as efficiently trending genres like shoegaze and downtempo/trip hop as good as him. It took several years for the rest of the world to catch up with artists as him.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 03:25 (ten months ago) link

Best I could do for his solo output: 2 highlight, imho, songs per album - with the exception of “+ bien” which is soundtrack work and probably just worth a listen for completion purposes.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7baccsvllKfsimqhRwCmhj

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:41 (ten months ago) link

Thank you kindly - great starting points. Always takes me a bit longer to absorb non-English music so having a little more focus is great.

Problem with the comps, I see now, is that they have some earlier angular post-punk funk tracks (like very early Go-Betweens?) that I don’t really care about that much.

― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, June 13, 2023 10:17 PM

Ha, I have the same issue with early Go-Betweens despite liking other bands that exist solely in the angular post-punk funk zone!

etc, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 20:09 (ten months ago) link

Added two tracks per album of Soda Stereo too… I’m omitting some of his biggest hits (de musica ligera, persiana americana, adios, crimen...) … not because I don’t like them but because I feel like there’s better songs in their respective albums and those are a very basic intro.

Tempted to treat “comfort” as not a live unplugged album but as a closing album, an add songs from it too. Most of the versions in there - particularly their early songs - are wildly different from the original ones. Even a song as iconic as “en la ciudad de la furia” feels like a totally different song. Both the unplugged and album versions are great.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:41 (ten months ago) link

Yeah fuck it I’m adding “te para tres”, that song is nowhere near one of the highlights of “cancion animal” but it turns into one of the best moments in the unplugged version. Adds a solo lifted from “cementerio club” by Pescado Rabioso (Spinetta)- a classic argentinian rock song on its own - and brings the song to another level.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 June 2023 00:24 (ten months ago) link

Bocanada is a hard one… again I’d probably recommend to listen to that one in full. It’s probably Cerati’s magnum opus imho.

Picking Raiz and Tabu since they’re the ones I’m most in the mood for with the current heatwaves and they’re the two songs that convinced me in the first place to buy this album back in 2000-something.

Raiz is very sample heavy but it’s built so effortlessly you’d think it’s all Cerati. There’s samples of Deodato (breakbeat), XTC (guitar break), Jaivas (Flutes), Thomas Dolby (main guitar) and even Mark Snow from the X files soundtrack!

Tabu’s main groove is lifted from Spencer Davis Group “waltz for Lumumba”, I love the energy Cerati adds to the groove. Probably Cerati’s best opening track both in Soda and a solo artist.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 June 2023 00:41 (ten months ago) link

Could have easily picked the title track or “paseo inmoral” which is based around Garry Glitter’s rock n roll.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 June 2023 00:44 (ten months ago) link

Ha, been meaning to concentrate and figure out what this last sample was, and whether it was an actual sample.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 June 2023 10:38 (ten months ago) link

Wow at dropping the Bocanada sample knowledge. Just found this handy video about that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HMo9Wun31o

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 June 2023 10:50 (ten months ago) link

somehow had never noticed Kim Deal in there!

with hidden noise, Thursday, 15 June 2023 11:56 (ten months ago) link

All the samples are fun to learn about but the one that made me smile the most for whatever reason was the John Barry.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:34 (ten months ago) link

For an example of the early stuff that is okay but not my favorite, see “Danza Rota.”

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:49 (ten months ago) link

Heh, just came across an album for kids called Babies Go Soda.

Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:15 (ten months ago) link

I think Soda gets interesting from Signos onwards, the first two albums have some of their big hits but sound too generic - with some exceptions like “cuando pase el temblor” which is probably the first BIG Soda song.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:18 (ten months ago) link

Sounds about right.

Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:48 (ten months ago) link

Signos has three big hits, I think, but the whole album flows from start to finish. It’s much more open, both spacious and dense, from start to finish.

Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:51 (ten months ago) link


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