sonny sharrock, including but NOT limited to "Ask the Ages"

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This one's getting a reissue this month — pretty great late 60s session w/ Sharrock. Has a kind of folk/jazz feel at points, mixed in with freer moments.

https://www.superiorviaduct.com/products/byard-lancaster-its-not-up-to-us-lp?_pos=1&_sid=80544ea89&_ss=r

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 20:41 (eleven months ago) link

^ one of the best records ever imo

budo jeru, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 21:46 (eleven months ago) link

also "ask the ages" fans owe it to themselves to check out "it's not up to us" because there's an early version of "many mansions" here called "john's children"

budo jeru, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 22:01 (eleven months ago) link

I remember getting a live set by most of the players from the Ask The Ages recordings live , I think it was minus Charnett MOffett if I'm thinking right. NOt seen it in a while but I have a load of the hard drives I filled with torrented sets disconnected. So there is at l;east one live set from then around.

Stevo, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 23:29 (eleven months ago) link

maybe the same one that's on youtube, with Pheroaan AkLaff instead of Elvin Jones?

budo jeru, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 02:23 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, that Byard alb rules. Play me some "Dogtown"! (Also became name of his label.)

dow, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 02:50 (eleven months ago) link

Any Sharrock head would probably dig Ray Russell's late 60's/early 70's records Dragon Hill, Rites and Rituals and Live at the ICA. He was a British guitarist and mined a pretty heavily Sharrock-influenced sound on these recordings. They rip! He also played some guitar on Bill Fay's Time of the Last Persecution.

InternationalWaters, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 11:04 (eleven months ago) link

Oddly he's later known for theme tunes and jingles.
BUt yeah pretty great, his work in Running Man which was more of a song structured prog band or protoprog band was very interesting in places too. One of the guitar solos reminded me heavily of a current band I'm trying to think who, maybe Comets On Fire. Like way ahead of its time.

I'm still really intrigued as to black artists working on guitar verging on noise influences because it seems like something heavily pioneered by several that I'm not sure is still populated/practised by many. Like not to be monolithic and what makes the area interesting is the level of idiosyncracy. Plus I'm not as up on post 60s jazz etc as I'd like to be.

Stevo, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 12:04 (eleven months ago) link

Harriet Tubman is the one I immediately thought of as well -- didn't realize Brandon Ross had a new album out this year, so I'm looking forward to checking that out. Unfortunately my knowledge doesn't go much deeper than that.

The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 12:25 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, I need to get into some more Russell; I only know him with Gil Evans, on The British Orchestra, which does have its own bonfires.

Here's Breath Of Air's s/t: Ross with Warren Benbow's drums, Charlie Burnham's violin, melting down moments live---https://breathofair.bandcamp.com/album/breath-of-air

dow, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 22:17 (eleven months ago) link

always thought there was a spot of sharrock in joe morris's playing. orcutt fans may also find something to love in his solo recordings like "No vertigo" & "singularity". "symbolic gesture" from '94 would be my pick of his trio/Qt stuff, but there's an embarrassment of riches to choose from

massaman gai (front tea for two), Thursday, 8 June 2023 04:12 (eleven months ago) link

O hell yes Joe Morris--so prolific, but seems like this is a good gateway, considering his colleagues here in particular:

Geometry of Distance (Relative Pitch): Kyoko Kitamura, Joe Morris, Tomeka Reid, Taylor Ho Bynum

and
The Geometry of Caves (Relative Pitch) w/ Taylor Ho Bynum, Tomeka Reid, Kyoko Kitamura

David S. Ware - Théatre Garonne, 2008 (Aum Fidelity) David S. Ware, Joe Morris, Warren Smith, William Parker

dow, Thursday, 8 June 2023 17:58 (eleven months ago) link

Also, I'm so far not as sold on Halvorson (as soloist, rather than accompanist or album auteur) as are a lot of other ilxors, apparently, but Morris has a duo set w her, which I haven't heard: Traversing Orbits (not even the title appeals).

dow, Thursday, 8 June 2023 18:04 (eleven months ago) link

I've got a 60-minute Walkman-inside-fall-jacket-quality recording of portions of Sonny's Oct '91 Toronto gig (spoken of upthread) in a storage locker a half-mile north of where I sit; the cassette also documents a 3-minute between-sets chat I had with the man (asked about Albert Ayler ("a very sweet cat") and how long the "Ask The Ages" Canadian release was due, and requested an autograph, which appears on the back of the gig flier the tape is wrapped in.) I gotta get that digitized someday.

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 10 June 2023 00:56 (ten months ago) link

I'll pay you to do it! Message me if you're interested :)

budo jeru, Saturday, 10 June 2023 01:53 (ten months ago) link

Thanks for the offer!

I've actually already got one of those radio/turntable/cassette players that burns CD-Rs, but it's temporarily in the same aforementioned storage locker. I'll get around to these things some day...

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 11 June 2023 15:52 (ten months ago) link


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