Increasingly Familiar Apple Lust Objects for 2016 and onwards

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that's kind of what every new apple product gets badged as tbh

mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 13:48 (ten months ago) link

soooo with that price this is just a toy for the super rich, right?

― Nhex, Tuesday, June 6, 2023 9:10 AM (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It’s shocking. They have a very good professional software team (Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, and Motion) and, as far as I know, they didn’t announce anything. Someone somewhere suggested a mixed-reality AutoCAD and Revit competitor. That would’ve been sick.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 13:52 (ten months ago) link

I got the impression they only locked in the APIs at the last minute and almost all the software features that were shown outside of the interface were video mock-ups

The Disney presentation was pure Imagineering with a couple clips interspersed from their existing products. I think I caught a clip from one of their previous Star Wars VR games

mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:30 (ten months ago) link

I got the impression they only locked in the APIs at the last minute and almost all the software features that were shown outside of the interface were video mock-ups

The Disney presentation was pure Imagineering with a couple clips interspersed from their existing products. I think I caught a clip from one of their previous Star Wars VR games

― mh, Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:30 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ah. That makes so much sense.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:38 (ten months ago) link

They mentioned Lightroom and the ability to selectively edit a 10’ photograph does sound like fun

calstars, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:46 (ten months ago) link

I mean it’s cheaper than what they were selling in the 80s and 90s. They’ve only recently become a mass market brand.

Still, lol at face computers.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:57 (ten months ago) link

early 2024 reads as late March at earliest, to me

all of the apps that run on the device (as opposed to using it as a remote display for your laptop) looked like the iPad versions hovering in the air, and obviously they were all mockups because what else would they be, someone attached a camera to one of the devices eye holes and shot video through it?

mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 15:11 (ten months ago) link

I'm admittedly and embarrassingly kind of intrigued by the idea of having all my work apps around me in the air and manipulating them by waving my arms around like I'm conducting an invisible orchestra while the virtual heads of my coworkers float in front of me. I can't imagine wearing something like that outside - it seems more like the answer to an Occulus (which you use at home but you can't see your physical environment) than the answer to google glass (which was ostensibly designed to wear outside).

Like most tech, I will wait a few generations before even considering a purchase, and certainly not for $3500.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:15 (ten months ago) link

In line with that, actually seriously considering an apple watch for the first time, as a combination of wanting a running watch, wanting the time on my wrist, and wanting fewer reasons to pull out my phone.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:17 (ten months ago) link

As a self contained thing, I'm assuming this won't be compatible with any existing VR apps and games, and you'd be paying $3500 to use some nifty iPhone apps. I'm not into VR but if I sprung for this and couldn't even try out Half Life Alyx that'd be super lame. otoh fragmenting this space might hurry up its demise already.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:32 (ten months ago) link

I got the impression they only locked in the APIs at the last minute and almost all the software features that were shown outside of the interface were video mock-ups

God I hope so. They had a DJ app thing and the latency on manipulating the crossfader was awful.

xxp i got apple watch pilled a couple of years ago. they are good!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 17:34 (ten months ago) link

i will never wear the apple watch or the apple glasses im against computers

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 00:30 (ten months ago) link

The watch pro ultra max plus looks cool but is a little steep price wise

calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 00:49 (ten months ago) link

Lol Is that the real name?

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 01:37 (ten months ago) link

Yes

calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 02:34 (ten months ago) link

Letter to the editor in the Washington Post

The June 6 news article "With Vision Pro, Apple makes its case for a computer on your face" noted a feature of Apple's new Vision Pro headset: When you are wearing the Vision Pro, you can see others in the room with you and thus you don't feel left out. But is the one wearing the Vision Pro the one who is really left out? I remember the moment when my young daughter got hooked on her first experience of a video (Disney's "Cinderella"). I not only felt "left out," but I also felt that she was no longer together "with me" in the same room.

My problem with the Vision Pro and this direction technology is taking is not only that it leaves others out but, even more important, that it generates ever more "experiences," be they "immersive" or not, that we can't share with others (our friends, our partners, our children, our co-workers, et al.). Aren't our "deepest experiences," the ones we live by, not experiences that leave others out but instead experiences shared with others? Even René Descartes wrote his deepest experience - "I think, therefore I am" (cogito, ergo sum) - for a reader.

I wish Apple CEO Tim Cook and the media would think more critically about how this new technology of "immersive experience" will intensify the primacy of the individual ("me first/me only" and its consequent "loneliness") by augmenting its introversion (and asociality in the sense of its "failure to feel responsibility" for the suffering or well-being of others). Isn't the challenge today to break down solipsism (self-relation) and increase/create solidarity with others (relationality) - others in the world with us?

Kathleen Wright, Philadelphia

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 June 2023 08:44 (ten months ago) link

Baratunde Thurston:

Let's also talk about actual eyesight, the non-patented kind. On the same day Apple announced its headset, it announced a new feature built into its other mobile devices. According to its press release celebrating the company's attempt to tackle myopia (aka nearsightedness), "Screen Distance uses the same TrueDepth camera that powers Face ID on iPhone and iPad to encourage users to move their device farther away after holding it closer than 12 inches for an extended period of time." The release goes on to encourage us to spend time outdoors and notes that the company's new feature can monitor your access to daylight and nudge you to get more. Should I tell the "Screen Distance" team about the Vision Pro, or do you want to do it?

The company's new headset sits centimeters away from your face, blasting your eyes with artificial light, shooting infrared beams to track eye movement, using cameras to capture and recreate your visage, all of which you strap to the back of your head. To quote my wife, "They should need F.D.A. approval for this. No one has tested what 23 million stamp-size pixels smashed against your eyes does to your brain." I could not, in fact, find any information related to the anticipated health impact or approval of this device for consumer use. I'll keep looking.

While the Vision Pro is a massive technological leap, it's also likely to be a massive leap in the wrong direction when it comes to our health. When something so revolutionary rolls out, I want to be told about its incredible advantages, of course, but also about the incredible amount of study and care the company has taken, the testing conducted, the regulatory approvals achieved. Sadly, I suspect the truth is that we are the test subjects. I've looked for information about this on the Vision Pro site and can't find it. But that's how the under-regulated tech industry rolls, from social media to generative A.I., and now to this face computer.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 June 2023 08:48 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

Prime Day had a pretty great deal on the watch so I finally got myself one - Series 8 with cellular. I mistakenly ordered the smaller band size which was literally a notch too small for my wrist and didn't feel like returning the whole thing or spending $50 on a new band, so I just cut a new hole in it.

I like it so far - nice to have the texts and the child screentime requests show up on my wrist so I don't have to pull out my phone every time, nice to have the time visible, and I'm looking forward to using it on runs so I don't have to carry my phone in one hand like a putz in order to see my pace/mileage/time.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:20 (nine months ago) link

My nephew is too young for a phone or tablet but he has a Watch and now I want one so we can do the silly Watch-to-Watch messages.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:37 (nine months ago) link

i still can't get into a comfortable zone with bookmarks and tab groups

anybody got a system they like?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 10:04 (nine months ago) link

For organizing tabs?

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 12:17 (nine months ago) link

Has anyone tried Arc yet? I believe tab management is its biggest selling point

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/25/23802843/arc-browser-mac-ios-waitlist-availability

Alba, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:01 (nine months ago) link

I am too tied in to Chrome at work to really consider it. My tabs management policy is just to have three pinned, open about 100 a day and then close them all with a keyboard shortcut every hour or so.

Alba, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:03 (nine months ago) link

I don't use tab groups because whenever I have enough themeatically-related tabs to put into a group, it's more useful to save each as either a .webarchive or a PDF. Especially if it's at a URL that's likely to change or disappear.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:15 (nine months ago) link

For organizing tabs?

yes

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:21 (nine months ago) link

I don't use tab groups because whenever I have enough themeatically-related tabs to put into a group, it's more useful to save each as either a .webarchive or a PDF.

Had to read this a few times before remembering that some people use tabs as bookmarks!

Alba, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:26 (nine months ago) link

I can't think that way - I'm definitely in the "I cannot rest until my tabs are closed" mindset

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:53 (nine months ago) link

failsafe tab management strat: command-shift-w

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:55 (nine months ago) link

I like have some tabs grouped together that I can open all at once, sort of like a workspace

That said there are a few sites that are good to have as references for these workspaces, but which I don't actually need all the time (eg bookmarks) but at the moment bookmarks are entirely unrelated

I think what I want is a sort of combination of bookmarks and tab groups, so they relate to each other

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:55 (nine months ago) link

If nothing else, this exchange has been the kick up the backside I needed to organise my bookmarks. It was getting ridiculous: I was scrolling for a full minute down a flat list to get to the most recent ones. And yes, some of these are static references and could probably just be saved offline.

Also: colour-coded tab groups in Chrome. I remember to do this maybe once every two weeks and gain nothing from the exercise. It's less embarrassing if you're screen sharing on a call, like tidying your room.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 14:40 (nine months ago) link

Thanks for the link to Arc, Alba. I have downloaded - it's intriguing! I miss the days when browsers competed on features.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 14:47 (nine months ago) link

I use workona for exactly this, Tracer: you can create tab sets, with their own bookmarks (and notes and todos, but I don’t use those). And it has a nice command palette to switch between sets. It’s become indispensable pretty quickly.

stet, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 22:32 (nine months ago) link

I tried to get on with Arc but it feels cramped. Workona much better. I may even pony up for the paid version.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 August 2023 14:46 (eight months ago) link

something really strange happened last night. hitting the sack about 12:40 in the morning, my phone’s plugged into the wall next to my bed, i’m reading, and out of nowhere it chirps a tone that i’ve not heard it make before. a loud single chirp, sort of like you might hear if you tried to close a window on a mac that couldn’t be closed, a kind of “hey!” or “nope!” sound. a few seconds pass, it happens again. i pick up the phone and look at it. no notifications. it chirps a third time. still no notifications. i unlock it, i can’t see anything untoward. after 11pm i have a sleep focus on which allows ZERO audible notifications from anything apart from my family. but there were no texts, whatsapps etc.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 August 2023 08:20 (eight months ago) link

and er this morning i have a security update. NOTHING TO SEE HERE

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 August 2023 10:09 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

I cook a lot and I use my iPhone nightly to set timers for various reminders while I am cooking. I have been increasingly troubled by my seeming inability to correctly set the timer. I set the timer, time passes and I think, "that should have gone off", I check the phone and find that I selected the time I wanted but appeared not to have hit Start. This has been happening with increasing frequency and weighing on me for months to the extent that it (along with other getting older issues) has been making think that maybe there is something wrong with me (early onset alzheimers', whatever). I've joked with friends about it. Getting old sucks, eh?

I was cooking last night with my wife and I had her set a timer on my phone while my hands were full. The same thing happened to her! It's the fucking phone! WTF!? (I am seriously relieved).

From brief googling, it appears to be something where the lock screen might be shutting down the timer. Anyone encounter something similar?

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 24 September 2023 11:58 (seven months ago) link

Yes, I've had exactly this problem while cooking and I suspect the lock screen is the cause. It's ridiculously annoying.

Brad C., Sunday, 24 September 2023 13:46 (seven months ago) link

I do that all the time too. Alexa is more reliable cause I get the immediate feedback that I have indeed set it.

Alba, Sunday, 24 September 2023 14:45 (seven months ago) link

analog dial timer built into the stove is low key goat cheesed with the sauce

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2023 14:47 (seven months ago) link

I haven’t had that happen, but it could be an accidental press on the timer lock screen pause/stop buttons. looks like it’s definitely a ui issue if you’re triggering presses on the lock screen in your pocket or w/e

I guess you could just glance at the time and tell siri to set an alarm for that time? alarms don’t show on the lock screen

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 24 September 2023 14:52 (seven months ago) link

Phone is unlocked and sitting on a counter when the timer is set and I have now visually confirmed that it is counting down. At some point before the timer ends, the lock screen seems to cancel the timer instead of allowing it to sound. It doesn't happen every time but has started happening much more frequently.

Also, I have used the timer for cooking for years without issue, so much so that my phone frequently prompts me in the evening, "Do you want to set a timer for 5 minutes?". The problem only started happening within the last 6-9 months afaik. Really weird.

I just checked and I don't have any iOs updates that haven't been downloaded.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 24 September 2023 15:08 (seven months ago) link

weeeird

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 24 September 2023 16:09 (seven months ago) link

Do you have Focus or Do Not Disturb on?

calstars, Sunday, 24 September 2023 17:30 (seven months ago) link

i got an old fashioned magnetic egg timer for my fridge. i hate being in the middle of cooking and needing to touch my phone. it's inconvenient and also gross

budo jeru, Sunday, 24 September 2023 18:01 (seven months ago) link

Siri stopped speaking back to me when I set a timer, no amount of restarting and turning things off and on makes it come back.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 24 September 2023 18:10 (seven months ago) link

alexa et al are are prob the best for timers, totally hands free, as long as you dont mind having a spy in your home

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2023 18:42 (seven months ago) link

Olde-timey manual kitchen timer sounds like the best option

calstars, Sunday, 24 September 2023 18:57 (seven months ago) link

it has the benefit of being able to look at it and see where its at

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2023 19:00 (seven months ago) link

having a dial timer built into the stove is good cause its one hand operation

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2023 19:01 (seven months ago) link


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