Pretty small sample group I thought.
Also, in the end this will just be another piece of data ppl can wave around to show that it's a good idea while the govt answers "no", right?
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 5 June 2023 13:22 (ten months ago) link
yup, pretty much like the other trials we've seen
― Nhex, Monday, 5 June 2023 13:32 (ten months ago) link
a fascinating waste of time trying to evidence UBI when the counter arguments will all involve red faced journalists shouting about the workshy and magic money trees and the counter arguments will be successful
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 June 2023 13:45 (ten months ago) link
any idea that you can convince the UK state of is probably not an idea worth having
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 June 2023 13:47 (ten months ago) link
The fact that the UK is considering a trial of UBI surprises me.
I wonder if the aim is to try it so they can kill it off and say it has been discredited.
Or maybe the internal politics of government are more complicated than that.
I believe that on balance, UBI would be a good thing and could improve our society.
― the pinefox, Monday, 5 June 2023 14:42 (ten months ago) link
steady on there
― serving bundt (sic), Monday, 5 June 2023 15:03 (ten months ago) link
I think this latest trial is being run by the Autonomy think tank, so it's not govt sponsored. There has been a three-year pilot of 500 care leavers running in Wales since last summer however. Think it could feasibly be introduces in some limited way by one of the devolved authorities.
― Piedie Gimbel, Monday, 5 June 2023 15:10 (ten months ago) link
Heartbreaking that every time we get media attention for basic income work, the inbox fills up with people desperate to be included in any trial – along with accounts of how a cruel, conditional welfare system has let them down— Jack Kellam (@Jack_Kellam_) June 5, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 June 2023 15:20 (ten months ago) link
for real
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 June 2023 15:24 (ten months ago) link
Everyone is talking about a universal basic income today. I think it’s a bad idea, and that we need Universal Basic Services instead (UBS) - where we have free education, healthcare & transport, alongside a massive expansion of social housing. From my TED talk last year. pic.twitter.com/8rglnOiBHg— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) June 5, 2023
A rejection of UBI.
But if we can't have UBS, maybe UBI is better than nothing?
― the pinefox, Monday, 5 June 2023 20:43 (ten months ago) link
if ubi is offered as an alternative to basic services, its bad
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 02:20 (ten months ago) link
It only makes sense as part of a broader network of services and controls on rents and prices, yeah
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 07:01 (ten months ago) link