Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

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― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess I can't argue with that, but half the fun of these lists for me is the campaigning and strategic voting and rallying and whatnot.

ah see, personally that stuff only diminshes what I find interesting: genuine and heretofore unknown consensus.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

is there any of that at all in this list?

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

a lot of people love lots of St. Etienne songs. I had no idea and now I'm curious to check 'em out.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I mostly voted for songs I liked. Only like 1/3 of my list was from party affiliation obligations.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I dropped about 25-30 points on "Belfast" because I was hoping it would place. Everything else was love, mang.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked all the songs I voted for.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link

also, gear, i'm guessing you were being a bit snarky, and maybe you know this already, but "energy flash" is canonical as it gets for 90s dance music. it's one of those songs that you heard in many dj's sets and you didn't need to be e'd off your face to enjoy it.

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

my amiability would disappear the instant "Shine" appears on this list, mind you.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

that's to say I would have put Belfast at #10 normally, but I figured other choices I'd place above might do better, i.e. Dee-Lite or something.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link

gah, "Sorted" is a very good non-nominated Pulp track! not a reply to your Beltram post

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link

For somoene so tolerant of recent modern rock, Anthony, you're surprisingly unsympathetic to most post-grunge.

And I was being sarcastic with my 1/3 comment. I'm only sort of a horrible person.

And Gear, it looks like the 25-30 points you dropped on "Belfast" got it on the list. Bravo.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

haha! i have never heard pulp or st. etienne. xpost

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

if this poll can turn only one more person on to Saint Etienne, it has done some good, dammit

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:17 (nineteen years ago) link

fex sake, I own The Sound of 2am by Beltram

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:17 (nineteen years ago) link

For somoene so tolerant of recent modern rock, Anthony, you're surprisingly unsympathetic to most post-grunge.

I dunno, I like Everclear, Weezer and Local H a whole lot. I even dig some Verve Pipe and the Stone Temple Pilots Tiny Music singles. The bands who took the basic Nirvana sound and made it more lyrically coherent are cool. The draggier Pearl Jamy stuff though, blech. And Bush would be cool if Gavin Rossdale wasn't such a bad singer/lyricist.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I once really pissed someone off at a bar by insisting that the Verve's best song was "Freshman"

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link

they had a short fuse obv

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

plus people really overrate my fondness for recent modern rock. I'm totally listening to the rap station more often. I really only like the poppiest, most coherent, or nuttiest stuff.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess it's good to know that The Verve Pipe have such loyal fans. What did they insist was their best song?

For the record, if "The Freshmen" was on this list I might've voted for it. That song gives me chills.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't been close on any of my top choices:
1) The Cardigans – "Lovefool" - 22
3) Mazzy Star - "Fade Into You" - 49
4) Notorious BIG - "Juicy" - 35
6) Arab Strap – "The First Big Weekend" - 90
10) Portishead - "Sour Times" - 53
11) Ol' Dirty Bastard - "Got Your Money" - 29
12) 2Pac feat. Dr. Dre – "California Love" - 25

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

The fact that "Mogwai Fear Satan," "Summerhead," "Christiansands," "Stars" and "Avalyn" aren't going to make the list saddens me.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

no, it was a Verve fan!

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i.e. that hour I took scrolling through this thread where I should've been reading = GO TO HELL ILM.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Leeeeeeee, at least there's "Gorecki" :)
I was 99.9% sure that "Avalyn" wouldn't make it, but I still voted for it because IT CHOKES ME UP.
I thought "Stars" had a decent shot, but it appears that people were too busy voting for Saint Etienne and the Cardigans in the Battle of Tweepop to worry about Dubstar's entries.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

After reading everyone's comments, I wonder if maybe my issue is just that everything about how "Common People" comes off and seems to be appreciated here - mostly AFAICT by a small crowd of foppish anglophile students who delight in Jarvis' refined wit and the campiness of the sound at garish clubs - seems so incongruous with the statement. Or if that's not the case, maybe I just hear its sound as so foppish that it seems to have nothing to do with whatever (admittedly limited) experience I might have of the working class, say maybe the situation of my housemates. I appreciate that a) this might just be me projecting some exoticized notion of Englishness I have on this song and that b) it must seem very different in England, which is why I was wondering to begin with. I 'get' the Smiths more though, which makes me wonder. Although, to be honest, I don't really know of anyone who thinks labourers are really hot or that "poor is cool" in the way of the woman in the song so I guess I don't relate at all to the situation in that way. I would totally relate if it was about someone who objectifies 'minorities' or particular ethnic groups in that way.

I don't get the comments about the US rock vote. Hardly any US rock was even nominated, was it? I mean, normally for any poll like this you'd have plenty of Soundgarden and Pearl Jam and Jane's and Metallica, not to mention hits like "No Rain". Was Fugazi nominated?

Do Saint Etienne sound like the Cardigans?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm still holding a tiny candle of hope for "The Diamond Sea".

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Everything about "Born to Run", BTW, does make sense to me. I think the lyrics are really good.

NB MIR I think it might have more to do with how perceive the relative worth of hip-hop and UK weiner-pop than with the actual mathematical proportions of their representations.

Is "Lovefool" tweepop? I thought Cub was tweepop.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:24 (nineteen years ago) link

To Sundar - for "Diamond Sea" - and so many of you (including myself, who'd like to think other people appreciate the glory of Prince's "Gett Off" and Bikini Kill's "Rebel Girl"), I dedicate this number to you.

Every time that I look in the mirror
All these lines on my face getting clearer
The past is gone
It went by like dusk to dawn
Isn't that the way
Everybody's got their dues in life to pay

I know nobody knows
Where it comes and where it goes
I know it's everybody's sin
You got to lose to know how to win

Half my life's in books' written pages
Live and learn from fools and from sages
You know it's true
All the things come back to you

Sing with me sing for the years
Sing for the laughter and sing for the tears
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away

Sing with me sing for my year
Sing for my laughter and sing for my tear
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away

Dream on dream on dream on
Dream yourself a dream come true
Dream on dream on dream on
Dream until your dream comes true
Dream on dream on dream on dream on
Dream on dream on dream on yeah

Sing with me sing for my year
Sing for my laughter and sing for my tear
Sing with me if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away

Dream on dream on dream on
Dream yourself a dream come true
Dream on dream on dream on
Dream until your dream comes true
Dream on dream on dream on dream on
Dream on dream on dream on yeah

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sorry Anthony, I don't know why I voted for Pulp songs instead of "Rebel Girl"! (Well, actually, it's cause I own DC and don't own any BK since most of their stuff sucks. If my heart was in the right place I would have given that one some props though.)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link

oh I agree most BK sucks. It's only the Joan Jett-produced single that I think is outstanding.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I bought St. Etienne's Too Young To Die offa ebay based on their placement here. (and then I found out that a new comp was coming out soon)

― a banana (alanbanana), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Would "Common People" make more sense to Americans if it was repackaged for that market as "Southern People"?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No. It might make some sense if it was "Black People".

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link

The US South seems even more foreign to me! "Ethnic People" or "Asian Women" or "Black Guys" would make sense.

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― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Duh, me amurikn liek 'commn poepeol', unndjerstandd

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish "Around the Way Girl" (which I voted for) had won instead of "Mama Said Knock You Out" (which I didn't vote for). I assume it won't be in the top 20.

― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah. That's too bad. LL Cool J should have a couple of songs here. I like that one better too.

― danh (danh), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

ooh, those cursed brits and their pulp/saint etienne/b&s/psb! *cough*

dj: I'm sure lots of Americans voted for those artists, too.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link

i am american and feel no shame for voting for 4 pulp tracks and 2 belle & sebastian tracks. i like scarfpop. all the americans that are pissed that british music ruled the poll... maybe british music was better in the 90's. gasp.

― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

and, yeah, I didn't mean to sound flippant: dj "knows" me well enough to know I love all those artists - I voted for three songs each by pulp and B&S, and four by saint etienne. My top three consisted of one song from each of those artists. I guess I ruined the poll...

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Do Saint Etienne sound like the Cardigans?

If I remember correctly, St. Etienne got The Cardigans producer for their 4th album, Good Humor. And I guess in that particular album they do sound a bit like The Cardigans.

― daavid (daavid), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:19 (nineteen years ago) link

BTW this guy's name is Tore Johansson.

― daavid (daavid), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link

hmmm, does this mean that this thread is going to be revived?

Saint Etienne - C/D?

― youngn (ndeyoung), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link

OK hold up I called out the "anglophiles" upthread too scott, don't think I didn't know what you voted for ;)

maybe british music was better in the 90's. gasp.

And that's just bullshit.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link

their dance music was miles ahead of american dance music

their "alternative rock" music has held up better than american rock has.

all that america has, in my opinion, is rap and hip hop.

i am not a huge rap/hip hop person, but i did still vote for 5 tracks, one at number 2.

also, england had trip-hop

― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't tell if you mean that as a point in favor of or against England (re: trip hop).

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link

ye gods

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:46 (nineteen years ago) link

tricky and portishead are fantastic artists, jerks :)

― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link

"also, england had trip-hop"

But isn't Endtroducing the best trip-hop album ever made by a longshot?

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link

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