golden state warriors thread

thanks for thoughtful response, that all tracks to me. obv curry on another team is inconceivable but it's gonna be depressing if they can't keep a competitive team around him for the remainder of his god-tier years, however many they will be

i thikn dray wouldve been gone a while ago if not for curry, who understands how important he is to the team warts and all

it's gonna be depressing if they can't keep a competitive team around him for the remainder of his god-tier years, however many they will be

I feel part of that might be Curry's undoing too - if he insists on keeping say Klay around past his due date, he would be shooting his foot in the process. Probably one of the better ways to sustain is trading one or two of the expensive current players (Poole, Klay, Dray and Wiggins) for youth pieces, depth and to get under the apron. Steph is going to continue to be super-maxed until he retires.

If the dubs can somehow keep Klay and Dray on super team friendly deals, part with Poole and get some real depth back, they got maybe 2-3 years left at maybe contending. After that? Retirement tour?

How many of y'all think LeBron arrives in a crazy trade this year or next?

there seems to be a lot of smoke around that lebron rumor. but i dont really see it happening. its really a bummer that klay flamed out in the lakers series cos he had a great season overall and a stellar 2nd half of the seaosn in particular.

I'm very skeptical about the Lebron rumors -- can he even fit onto the team just looking at salary?

would have to move wiggins and poole to match i think. i think if it were to happen it would be after next season

“There’s no doubt in my mind what Steve’s saying right here. He’s saying that Jordan [Poole] and Jonathan [Kuminga] were being babies all year long!”

- @Mark_T_Willard reading between the lines of Steve Kerr’s comments (via @WillardAndDibs). pic.twitter.com/NfODnObzpq

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) June 5, 2023

It's Dunleavy. At least we didn't get the failson.

https://theathletic.com/4616113/2023/06/16/warriors-mike-dunleavy-jr-gm-bob-myers/

I guess you could call Dunleavy a failson, actually.

lol have you looked at mike dunleavy sr's track record as a player and a coach?

Dunleavy thing is funny cos the whole (old school) fanbase hates him

xp ya more like the successful son of a faildad. I
i was amazed to see that jr’s playing career was 15 years - I knew he hung around for awhile but damn. i always think of him and troy murphy being the tools of the pacers’ post-malice at the palace whitewashing

Draymond declines option, now a free agent... Lakers time?

hes coming back

I'd be shocked if he leaves. I'm guessing he's declining so that he can agree to a longer term deal at a lower AAV to help with the tax bill while simultaneously reducing his risk of injury/performance hurting his chances next year. I'm thinking 3/$60M to line up with Steph's deal possibly? Maybe they'll push it out to a 4 year deal with a mutual option if they can extend Steph? Either way, I think Dray's value and terms will be aligned with the team.

The real concern I have is Klay - do you trade him or start negotiations on an extension that has to be below max? I really hope Klay's pride doesn't get in the way of the team moving forward. If Dray and Klay have any desire to win another ring with Steph, they have to take paycuts, or leave.

dray will get more than 60. my guess is 3/90 and possible a team option 4th year. but he already said he wants it to line up with the curry contract.

what other team is gonna give $30m/yr to a 33yo who averages 9 ppg, is ranked 143rd in PER, and is kind of an asshole?

I could see a lot of teams wanting him at that price but would prob need to be a sign n trade situation

Maybe the Kuminga rumors were wishful thinking from another team?

One of the exploratory conversations that surfaced, via ESPN, was a trade-up scenario involving Kuminga. From my understanding, that was an inbound call from a team in the lottery that has registered regular interest in Kuminga dating back a year. Multiple team sources have been adamant that the Warriors aren’t shopping Kuminga around.

https://theathletic.com/4618058/2023/06/21/warriors-nba-draft-free-agency-trades/

it just makes sense to keep a guy with that skillset on a rookie deal.

dray will get more than 60. my guess is 3/90 and possible a team option 4th year. but he already said he wants it to line up with the curry contract.

If this happens they offload Poole. There's no way they can flesh out this team to compete properly paying Draymond more than they are now and keeping everyone else. It's literally $ or championships, especially with the new CBA. What is this team without Donte DiVincenzo? That's the best they can do with the new CBA next year while paying a lot more in tax $ with Poole and Dray's new hypothetical deals. That's a lot of money to likely lose in the 2nd round again.

I think if they keep Dray they need to move Poole, not just for the money but for the vibes, too. What they do about Klay is where my interest tends. Steph strikes me as able to adjust to and accept major changes in the roster, but if the dubs choose to start a full rebuild around him I think he'll pull his foot off the accelerator and do some coasting while he scopes out his options.

I will simply not watch the 2nd team minutes this year

Adding insult to injury, they traded PBJ for a 2nd round pick, I assume as further salary dump? He looked really promising last year! Solid defense and great 3 point stroke. Starting to understand why Bob left.

yeah i think it saves them a bunch of money and they think this trayce jackson davis can do more things to help immediately. basically every move now is to 1) maximize currys timeline and 2) save as much money on the fringes doing so

basically admitting that they messed up thinking they could do a two timelines thing and wasted a couple years of currys prime trying to thread the needle.

well maybe one year - 2021. 2020 Curry was injured and 2023 they mostly ran back with the same group minus swapping DiVincenzo for OPJ. If Klay, Poole, Wiggins and the young guys not named Moses don't regress in the playoffs the way they did, they go much farther potentially. They still got a ring out of it, but yeah - the front office has absolutely been humbled.

FWIW I actually like this deal. CP3, if they choose to keep him mostly on the bench, can anchor a 2nd unit really well and keep his minutes to around 20 a game. He can help slow the pace down, prevent teams from catching up nearly as quickly, and preserve his body. I would like to hope the locker room vibe improvements alone will make this trade a plus. Poole can tank command over in Washington without worrying about play time and put up 25/5 type stats (just ignore the TOV column) without worrying about committing himself to things like defense and improved ball handling/decision making. Got his bag and his ring, nicely done Jordan.

Also this experiment is somewhat lower risk in that CP3 is only really on the hook for next year. Allows them to potentially sign Klay at a more reasonable rate, extend Kuminga potentially, and sign some veteran depth while remaining under the 2nd apron I think.

2023 they mostly ran back with the same group minus swapping DiVincenzo for OPJ. If Klay, Poole, Wiggins and the young guys not named Moses don't regress in the playoffs the way they did, they go much farther potentially.

― octobeard, Friday, June 23, 2023 10:18 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the biggest issue was committing real playing time to three raw talents and then adding two more rookies to that. just way too many roster spots wasted on guys that wouldnt be seeing playoff minutes (moody the only one that did). they started the year giving wiseman real playing time when by like game 3 they shoulda cut him out of the starting lineup and the rotation... if only they were actually trying to win games at that point. they dug a hole in the first quarter of the season that left no wiggle room for the curry/wiggins injuries/time-off. the punch didnt help either, obv.

the CP/Poole trade makes a lot of sense yah, just... you know

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzR9Nk-aIAAwchq?format=png&name=900x900

basically admitting that they messed up thinking they could do a two timelines thing and wasted a couple years of currys prime trying to thread the needle.

― Spottie, Friday, June 23, 2023 1:10 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

high on their own supply, light years ahead

yeah and it makes the 2022 title that much more special honestly. even their own leaders were too busy trying to look ahead and they still got one despite it.

they won a title with all those guys on the roster they don’t have to apologize for anything. it didn’t work but whatever. i don’t understand the virulent criticism that the warriors get over this

i think their biggest mistake last year was not replacing the otto porter role in their rotation

the two timelines plan was arrogant and dumb, dubs management thought they were the shit when a lot of it was luck, typical bay area billionaire behavior

apparently the guy they got at 57 is 23 years old, 3 years older than kuminga, hopefully he can contribute now

Y’all will regret it… I promise you.

— TJD (@TrayceJackson) June 23, 2023

this guy right? this is what he sent out BEFORE the dubs picked him up.

dray a few years back lol

Maybe I’m the only one but I’ve literally thought about this interview nonstop, since the CP3 to GSW trade 💣 dropped

“I don’t like CP at all, like we don’t have a good relationship at all. But I respect his hustle & I respect his IQ…” pic.twitter.com/gq7HfEdvh6

— Stace 💜💛 (@DSTacey1913) June 24, 2023

my favorite thing that happened this season 😭😭😭pic.twitter.com/LdtJcZ601d

— klaylmao 🛟 (@klaylmao) June 25, 2023

lol

https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/warriors-dario-saric-reportedly-agree-to-one-year-contract

Good pickup, he and CP seemed to have nice pnr chemistry

Saric in the Jerebko - Casspi big euro veteran role. Saric might be best of the lot.

Casspi got the yips, jarebko was a fine 12-13 man.

#DubNation will miss you, Jordan, but welcome to Washington, D.C. pic.twitter.com/aTKCAGljWt

— Vice President Kamala Harris (@VP) July 8, 2023

great signing for them, clear role in their offense that he can fill

chief of staff?

Athletic has the Warriors ranked 3 in their power rankings, which seems awfully optimistic.

I'm intrigued by Trayce Jackson-Davis after watching the summer league games. He kind of reminds me of Kyle Anderson.