Tina Turner - Classic or Dud?

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Sirius/XM's Soul Town channel #49 is all-Tina for at least today!

Sirius/XM is also free this weekend for curious how listeners.

They just played this Bowie-penned number:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmvpZd1Bn5

^^"Girls", from Break Every Rule

That Lizzo clip is amazing.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 26 May 2023 21:06 (ten months ago) link

TIL that Ike & Tina borrowed half of their "Proud Mary" arrangement from the Checkmates Ltd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMGW9dLQVg

as C grisso mentioned, Soultown on sirius XM, which is ostensibly concerned with the soul diaspora from, say, 1961-1975, has been the Tina channel since saturday. I've heard "A Fool in Love" twice, a very clearly not 1963 recorded remake of "It's Gonna Work Out fine," "Nutbush City Limits" (i do love that moog break) each once, and "Proud Mary" and "River Deep" not once… the overwhelming majority played is the Private Dancer and post-Private dancer music… and since I never fucked with her 90s shit, hearing whatever song she does with Barry White is a treat! as is her version of "Unfinished Sympathy"… but its giving me the impression that, unlike peers like Aretha, before P.D., she doesn't have a lot of hugely enduring hits…like, have normies who like soul/R&B ever heard "A Fool In love?" or is it like expecting said normies to know "Rocket 88"? It appears that before P.D., her legacy rests on her live show, where she would do Stones covers or whatever songs happened to be big that she could do nice andf rough… what other songs did she do prior to PD other than the five I mention above could someone interested in R&B in the 1960s reasonably be expected to know?

and when I hear "The best" or "Steamy Windows," it makes me think that she must have had access to the same pool of songs and songwriters that Cher had in the late 80s… I can hear Tina doing ""heart of Stone" or " I Found Someone," same production ethic, same everything, really…

veronica moser, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:53 (ten months ago) link

Ace of Base's "Don't Turn Around" was written for and performed by Tina.

Re your original point: no, she was never in the U.S. a major crossover artist other than the exceptions.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:56 (ten months ago) link

She is NOT Aretha.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:56 (ten months ago) link

this is wild and awesome

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

there's a special place in my heart for tina turner singing "gonna give you every inch of my dick"

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 19:22 (ten months ago) link

wow there are dogshit opinions at the beginning of this thread

saw a cool post on facebook, paraphrasing:

the jist was "Nutbush City Limits" was a big hit in Australia the year that AC/DC formed. It was also apparently the first song they asked Brian Johnson to sing during his audition for the band. Listening through that lens the influence is very apparent especially in the guitar riff/tone...Johnson is such a dude I wouldn't think Tina until now but I could definitely see her influence on him.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 19:32 (ten months ago) link

hadn't heard this one before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZFBU_aUVo
Tina Turner - Unfinished Sympathy (Extended Olympic Mix)

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 19:51 (ten months ago) link

I didn’t hear it until after she passed, but the original mix of her take on “Unfinished Sympathy” was really kind of an eye opener for me. I think I had a tendency to think of her post-PD material as a bit of a “Well, it’s nice she had the chance to come back and get her due” thing. But she certainly gives an incredible performance here that, if it doesn’t necessarily surpass Shara Nelson’s certainly matches its power and intensity – while also having a certain resonance because it’s Tina. The same is true of that performances linked upthread of “We Don’t Need Another Hero” and “Help.”

In retrospect, its kind of hilarious that Xgau was trying to tell us her voice was “shot” like forty years ago. Um, no.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 12:40 (ten months ago) link

what grade did he give dylan's latest phlegmfest?

your original display name is still visible (Left), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 17:21 (ten months ago) link

it is so infuriating how little respect critics gave her throughout even when praising the material as if she was incidental to what made those records sound great

your original display name is still visible (Left), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 17:26 (ten months ago) link

tbc he loved Tina Turner

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 17:52 (ten months ago) link

Bob clearly thought her voice was gone back on Nutbush City Limits in 1973. As with all things Xgau, there's at least a hint of misogyny in his praise of female artists, ogling her legs, alluding to her submissiveness to Ike, the music industry, etc. But he was indeed a big fan.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 18:36 (ten months ago) link

Her vocal on Herbie Hancock's 2007 cover of Joni Mitchell's "Edith & The Kingpin" is quite something: a side to her that I hadn't heard before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwDIJjYhQRo

mike t-diva, Thursday, 15 June 2023 20:00 (ten months ago) link

^^A big discovery for me from the Sirius/xM playlist.


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