"Dad Jazz"

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Narada Michael Walton handed my mom his drum sticks at the end of some fusion concert in the 70s, Mahavishnu or Corea I think. I played with them when I was a kid.

brimstead, Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:43 (ten months ago) link

my pops also fw the Stephane grappelli + joe pass album, as well as Django Reinhardt

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:44 (ten months ago) link

Didn't all those "live" records fake the live sounds? Like the foley artist was clinking cocktails at the mixing desk to add ambiance?

enochroot, Friday, 26 May 2023 00:02 (ten months ago) link

Brubeck

calstars, Friday, 26 May 2023 00:08 (ten months ago) link

enoch-
i know that was kind of the case with the david axelrod-produced cannonball adderley live albums. they basically created a "venue" in studio b, set up an open bar, and encouraged folks to hoot and holler and have a great time. so while all of the audience "participation" on those is technically "real", it was a fabricated environment.

my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Friday, 26 May 2023 00:27 (ten months ago) link

My grandpa loved all kinds of jazz, but he was very into stuff like Ahmad Jamal, Ramsey Lewis, MJQ, and I very much think of them as "grandpa jazz" as a result

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 26 May 2023 00:39 (ten months ago) link

Stanley Turrentine too, and Les McCann. A lot of the names mentioned ITT

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 26 May 2023 00:40 (ten months ago) link

Flim & The BB’s

brimstead, Friday, 26 May 2023 00:40 (ten months ago) link

i know that was kind of the case with the david axelrod-produced cannonball adderley live albums. they basically created a "venue" in studio b, set up an open bar, and encouraged folks to hoot and holler and have a great time. so while all of the audience "participation" on those is technically "real", it was a fabricated environment.

This was also the case with Pharoah Sanders' Live at the East; actually rolling trucks out to Brooklyn was prohibitively expensive (plus the East was an all-black-no-exceptions venue, so they'd probably have had to hire black recording engineers and Bob Thiele wouldn't have been able to work) so they did it in the studio with "friends and family" clapping.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 26 May 2023 00:41 (ten months ago) link

I think i was also getting "Nighthawks at the Diner" mixed up in there in the "live" albums (which is more in the genre of Old-Man Hat Fake Jazz)

enochroot, Friday, 26 May 2023 01:27 (ten months ago) link

Narada Michael Walton

the most rhythmically astute member of TV's Walton family

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 26 May 2023 01:30 (ten months ago) link

so they did it in the studio with "friends and family" clapping.

Pharoah's Black Unity, a studio record, also ends with a group of spectators applauding, I assume reacting in real time to the performance we've just heard.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 26 May 2023 01:36 (ten months ago) link

the Pershing album was in fact recorded live in that hotel lounge over two nights. Ahmad Jamal had been doing a residency there for months.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 May 2023 07:04 (ten months ago) link

Ha ha that's what I meant. Going through my dad's stuff I think he had an Ahmad Jamal record.

My mom was Italian and they are clean freaks and she threw my dad's stuff out regularly or gave it away but sometimes I'd find bits here and there of his sixties past.

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Monday, 29 May 2023 01:12 (ten months ago) link

ahh man, you know who i completely forgot about? the INCREDIBLE jimmy smith! he's mostly remembered by folks my age for root down, but all of his 60s blue notes are worthwhile. i like back at the chicken shack and, for the verve stuff, the co-led session with wes montgomery is about as classic as it gets for 60s soul jazz.

(wes montgomery's later albums also highly recommended, btw)

my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Monday, 29 May 2023 05:04 (ten months ago) link

This is probably too out to be dad jazz but it's Dollar Brand so retains that hospitable edge *and* it contains Johnny Dyani, Don Cherry, Roy Brooks and John Betsch. Magnificent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJA3vrLSdqA

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Monday, 29 May 2023 10:00 (ten months ago) link

heard this today and thought of this thread (which i've only glanced at)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeDNtD6fG2k

tbh at this point i think of a lot of this stuff as Austincore and normally would've posted this in scott's moldy figs thread.

aren't most of you dads at this point anyway?

budo jeru, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 02:12 (ten months ago) link

i think of a lot of this stuff as Austincore

proudly humbled ty 😊

my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 06:25 (ten months ago) link

Hadn't heard that Nat Adderley record, it's sick ty. Would love to grab it on vinyl (dad move).

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 18:51 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

some choice deep cut action for the second half of your monday-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmMHNCwIlYw
catalyst - "new found truths" (1972)

the adventures of Yari and ixa. (Austin), Monday, 28 August 2023 18:21 (seven months ago) link

what up Austin

budo jeru, Monday, 28 August 2023 21:11 (seven months ago) link

Is this the new thread for this stuff or the Moldy Figs thread?

Anyway, I really love this Cedar Walton track lately, "The Electric Boogaloo Song." Soul jazz, but with a loose, loping groove rather than tight funk. Rest of the album is good but doesn't sound like this cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHy0V1jd6P4

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 14:08 (seven months ago) link

Great track Austin, what gorgeous Rhodes and drumming (apparently that's Billy Hart on percussion/maybe second drum kit?).

50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 14:10 (seven months ago) link


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