They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

this was a mistake

lol think i might only have watched this from like halfway thru the first time

i missed nothing

the bit where David drops the black goo on an entire crowd of the progenitor species is still pretty amazing

i'm bailing, i'm too sleepy for this nonsense

xpost Only good scene, surely. Well that and Fassbender telling himself how to handle his flute.

the flute scene

discovering david's weird art documenting his experiences hybridizing the aliens

the bit where david regurgitates his little alien eggs to put into the human embryo store

haven't watched it in a while and these still stick in my mind!

I did like the design of David's lair. Film was pretty weak overall but had some good visuals

Lol I remember pretty much nothing of this one, except maybe the flute and also ... nah, I think that's it. I don't even remember the cast, beyond Fassbender. Maybe some Frankenstein vibes?

I watched Prometheus and Covenant for the first time a couple years ago. Viewed back-to-back, Covenant seemed like a gahdamn masterpiece in comparison.

That is the last film with the Xenomorph in so far isn't it? You might think if Prey can revitalise the Predator somewhat after a series of b movie takes on it something similar could be done with the Xenomorph. While trying to avoid that being an identikit genre in itself.
Or somebody who didn't want to make schlock could step into the Alien franchise. I thought the premise of seeing the background of the story could have been handled a lot better. & it was the way that it was handled that was the problem.
But I Think I did enjoy bits of the film when I first saw it and have now heard several people say its a really good film which isn't the way I remember it on rewatching it. That the stupid bits outweigh everything else, like.

There’s a TV series of Alien being (verrrrrrrry slowly) made, which caused a pause on any idiotic film projects for the moment.

apparently there was an alien v predator series that was actually made and edited and then put on a shelf for 7 years (and counting)

I think the fundamentals of the alien are sound, the problem with most of the sequels is that they either lean too hard toward mythology (who cares?) or, more commonly, they're just astoundingly stupid/silly. The "Predator" movies, for example, are actually all mostly good. First is great, second OK, "Predators" not bad (iirc), "Prey" is good. Only outlier (crossovers aside) is "The Predator," which is terrible. "Alien" movies are suited to the same simple more or less horror movie/action model: drop alien in with people/drop people in with alien. I suppose the last couple Ridley movies get points for novelty, since the whole time you're asking yourself what the fuck is going on and why, at least when you're not rolling your eyes at how amazingly dumb the characters are.

Then again, thinking out loud, the alien franchise quickly backed itself into a corner, because the alien (even one) is simply too powerful an enemy. The awesome "Alien: Isolation" game got it right: you don't beat the alien, you *avoid* the alien while doing other shit, like fixing the ship or outsmarting robots.

i may have missed one of the crossover films but am i right that there still is no 'Alien on the loose on Earth' movie? it would be so mega

Yeah, the second AvP film was basically that. I'm one of the only people on earth who thought it was decent (if deeply flawed). But you should probably go with the consensus opinion that it's a cinematic unflushed toilet.

= better than prometheus :D

i’m going to invite you all to a double feature of Solo and Prometheus and explain in a very irritating voice exactly why each one is good, while we’re watching it

I never saw "Solo," but if it went the way of "Willow" on Disney+, would anyone notice?

Well I'd have to find something else to do at 11pm every night of the week

You could watch "Free Solo," alone, while drinking beer from a red Solo cup.

Still impressed that stupid Prometheus was basically the exact same plot as stupid Alien vs Predator, just with alien planet instead of Antarctica, and weird playdo men instead of Predators. Otherwise all the same (alien temple, messianic Weyland, fuckwit scientists, weirdly invulnerable female lead, etc).

this fathead futzing around with origin stories and metaphysics when we could STILL HAVE THIS

The full-grown aliens were originally going to be transparent and their heads full of maggots. This was too hard to pull off though. And, originally, the alien Giger designed had eyes. He asked for the eyes to be removed when the effects team started building it.

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original is 44 today, and this thread is grebt: i wanna see the robert altman version

Alternately, Tarkovsky.

Alien with eyes definitely paved the way for his ELP cover:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0d/ELP_-_Brain_Salad_Surgery.jpg/220px-ELP_-_Brain_Salad_Surgery.jpg

This cover was from 1974, though!

Oh shit, so ELP invented the alien!

I may have been thinking of the Debbie Harry album.

Hahaha

The Alien was spawned on Love Beach.

they used the skull/eye socket version in alien: resurrection! pretty well, imo. the scene where the more-human alien is sniffing ripley/mom is creepy

There’s a TV series of Alien being (verrrrrrrry slowly) made, which caused a pause on any idiotic film projects for the moment.

There's a film, directed by Fede Alvarez, shooting as we speak. From the little info there is about it, it does sound like a Prey-style b-movie take

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2edS2FlrK4