Martin Amis: fire away!

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Amis wrote the note, to his own earlier text.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 15:18 (eleven months ago) link

Although come to think of it maybe by creaminss he was making a comparison to a pint of Guinness.

Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 16:06 (eleven months ago) link

Traven sat on the veranda, gazing with a glazed cornea over the creamy head of a pint of Guinness, past the gleaming bones of the dead Alsatian and into the leafy grean darkness of the gymnospheres in the distance.

Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 16:31 (eleven months ago) link

Martins lay on his back in the anonymous NYC flat, surveying the old concern of rug & gut & gum, wincing from the pain that radiated from the hole in his Upper West Side, distracted by the beat of his tom-tom ticker, in his mind's eye envisioning the upcoming transfusion and resection in the gleaming Curry Hill laboratories of the DNA boys.

Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 16:49 (eleven months ago) link

mini Jagger

Got the moves like Amis

Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:44 (eleven months ago) link

Some valid appreciation in that New Republic article but is it cowardice, closing ranks or some sense of misplaced respect that so many articles are ducking the 'bigtoed arsehole' phase of Amis' life?

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:32 (eleven months ago) link

Yes, that's right: 5ft nothing, looked like Jagger and had famously big toes.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:33 (eleven months ago) link

don't know how this is ducking

His most overtly political writing was his worst;

You want her to engage with his "worst" writing?

a (waterface), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:43 (eleven months ago) link

Why do all the examples in the paragraphs after the phrase "a brilliant prose stylist" in that New Republic piece suck so very, very hard? I could pull open a random airport crime novel and find a sentence on any page that would give me more pleasure as a reader than any of Amis's "look how clever I am! look how many words I know! oh, and look how much smarter you and I are than these people I'm writing about!" mini-tirades.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:48 (eleven months ago) link

Why do all the examples in the paragraphs after the phrase "a brilliant prose stylist" in that New Republic piece suck so very, very hard?

Because you're not into Amis, and that's ok if you're not into Amis, and he's not for you?

a (waterface), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:56 (eleven months ago) link

You want her to engage with his "worst" writing?

I liked the article well enough but it seems fairly representative of a failure not to talk about the 'bad writing' so much as at least acknowledge his very public bigotry and particularly his Islamophobia.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 19:03 (eleven months ago) link

I am still trying to recall the time in the 80s and early 90s when this guy seemed to be Our Guy, and his representation of what is now an Old Weird NYC seemed to be the next evolutionary step after, say, Bright Lights, Big City.

Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 19:14 (eleven months ago) link

Hmm, Money and Bright Lights, Big City were published the same year, 1984.

Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 19:15 (eleven months ago) link

Some valid appreciation in that New Republic article but is it cowardice, closing ranks or some sense of misplaced respect that so many articles are ducking the 'bigtoed arsehole' phase of Amis' life?


Etiquette! Those pieces run after the funeral.

woof, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 00:38 (eleven months ago) link

Or until it's determined whether or not his former agent will be taking on new clients.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 01:15 (eleven months ago) link

Amis's agent was famously Andrew Wylie, so pretty sure the Jackal won't need to be touting for new business.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 06:15 (eleven months ago) link

Reading Amis on Murdoch, Wilson, Burgess, Ballard, Weldon -- he was, as reviewer, such a student of what was then 'contemporary fiction'. He read huge amounts of it, including the books in between the ones you actually see him reviewing. If you were writing a study of 'post-war British fiction', that era that has become curiously dim ('novelists no-one reads anymore'), Amis would be an important source, one way or another, though not necessarily reliable on his own.

His relation to all this work is interesting. He is writing about elders, in a way. He's usually respectful, often affectionate, though often very critical. He usually quotes in detail, shows attention to texture. Later he would stop reviewing things that were current in this way, and he said some time that he wouldn't read younger writers.

When he reviews John Carey on Donne (1981), he indicates that he's already whole books by Carey on Milton, Dickens and Thackeray. Most of us haven't. He expresses quite finely and clearly the problems with reading the poems as direct expressions of emotion, which Carey appears to say they are.

On Ballard there's an odd inconsistency in that his earliest reviews are so harsh, and indeed he says things in every review that seem heavily negative, and yet he still declares himself a devoted follower.

The bad 2001 claim about Ballard's SF is expressed much better in a 1981 review, where he says 'hardcore' SF not 'hard SF' (a different thing, I fear), and more precisely states that 'His early stories [...] remain as good - as direct and logical - as anything by Fred Pohl or Arthur Clarke' (p.104).

On the whole the early reviews, pre-1990, form a marvellous body of work in itself, even if he'd never published fiction.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:21 (eleven months ago) link

His feelings about Ballard mirror his father's maybe? Loved the early organic and psychic cataclysms, disliked the later 'social' turn, and bringing the earlier SF processes closer to the contemporary.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:28 (eleven months ago) link

bad last clause...

'..and applying the processes from his earlier SF to the contemporary world'

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:28 (eleven months ago) link

I think he admits in his review of the Cronenberg adaptation that he was "haughty" about Crash as a kind of critical fancy dress because he couldn't adequately express his "nervous dismay" at the book. Each of his Ballard reviews seems to be apologising for the previous one.

Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:47 (eleven months ago) link

Note on p.110: 'I see I am quoting my father here'.

But he keeps reading Ballard in detail - he doesn't give up on the work at all.

I'm reminded btw that Ballard reviewed a good KA collection of short SF stories, amusingly, about 40 years ago.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:49 (eleven months ago) link

Gimbel is right - there is this odd dance with the Ballard reviews of echoing each other but correcting each other also. But certain features - 'Ballard's total humourlessness' - remain constant. And he repeats the phrase 'the motion sculpture of the highways' on pp.104, 112. Now I'd be surprised if he didn't also use it in a novel.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:51 (eleven months ago) link

xp

That, and the comment his dislike about seeing penises on screen makes me wonder whether he had some sort of deep psychological sex horror. ofc it might just be good old-fashioned english class prudery (or is that the same thing?). and Crash is partly designed to elicit that response. still, i'm running with it.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:53 (eleven months ago) link

What comment?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 10:03 (eleven months ago) link

xp
makes sense - weird sex disgust is one of his strongest areas imo, and there is a corresponding odd prudery

woof, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 10:11 (eleven months ago) link

OK, you weirdos persuaded me to give The Information a chance.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 10:11 (eleven months ago) link

literature's mick jagger: nasty prudish and short

mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 10:14 (eleven months ago) link

The tributes from hacks keep coming in.

HELL YEAH. https://t.co/5GDpwGzCHx pic.twitter.com/2bVodQfpH7

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) May 24, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 10:16 (eleven months ago) link

ah, i thought i'd seen it itt, but it was from the paywalled FT piece:

"What magnificent prose and what a peculiar personality underneath it. Amis wrote a long feature on the pornography industry for Tina Brown’s Talk Magazine in 2001 and only at the end confessed to his horror of seeing pricks on screen."

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 10:20 (eleven months ago) link

"magnificent prose"
"bits"

none of these fvcks can write

mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 10:24 (eleven months ago) link

i guess bits wd work if leslie meant it like "it's a bit" (ie it's a sustained type of comedy performance) but he doesn't

expand the war against cliche into the straps and heds ppl

mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 10:26 (eleven months ago) link

“I heard the ragged hoot of sirens, the whistles of twowheelers and skateboarders, pogoists, gocarters, windsurfers. I saw the barrelling cars and cabs, shoved on by the power of their horns. I felt all the contention, the democracy, all the italics in the air.”
Money, in New York.

Just marvelous.

a (waterface), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 11:52 (eleven months ago) link

There is quite a good joke in The Information. In fact a large part of the plot hinges on it, iirc.

fetter, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 12:05 (eleven months ago) link

yah The Information is great

a (waterface), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 12:21 (eleven months ago) link

xp yes - if it's the one I'm thinking of, it is neat & comes back to me a bit

woof, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 12:41 (eleven months ago) link

Thing that stays with me from The Information is the air hostess saying “A Mr. Richard Tull? A Richard Tull at all? Richard Tull at all.”

Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 14:02 (eleven months ago) link

I remember the agent from The Information with the ridiculous name of Gal Aplanalp or something like that. That and Richard Tull's kids singing 'daddy smells of shit!' at him when he's hungover.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 15:23 (eleven months ago) link

One of my fave little gags is the title novel of the Tull book that gives everyone a migrane is Untitled. His previous novel is Dreams Don't Mean Anything.

a (waterface), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 15:37 (eleven months ago) link

One of the things I remember is "if the sham refocussings are going to work."

A narratalogical construct that depends on "sham refocussings" is so Nabokovian that it hurts. Not sure if it's meant as parody, satire, or something else.

Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:06 (eleven months ago) link

Lol @ Eagleton writing for the cow dollar. On Amis.

https://unherd.com/2023/05/the-liberal-complacency-of-martin-amis/

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 May 2023 10:25 (eleven months ago) link

TLS new issue to have Amis on the front. As indeed they already did recently.

LRB should pay a proper tribute in print. Unsure what form it should take.

TE's overview one of the best brief accounts of Amis to be published - unlike most people, he's able to situate things historically and see pros and cons together - though I don't agree with every word. (He overrates Rushdie and overstates 'liberalism', for my money.) My main reservation is merely that it's too soon after a person's death to be unkind about them.

Still reading old Amis prose, still greatly enjoying most of it.

the pinefox, Friday, 26 May 2023 14:07 (eleven months ago) link

About 50 pages from finishing The Information. I hope to post thoughts.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 May 2023 14:09 (eleven months ago) link

Think I might want to reread that one.

Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 May 2023 14:26 (eleven months ago) link

more like parting anus lol

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 26 May 2023 21:01 (eleven months ago) link

The man has just died you know

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 May 2023 21:09 (eleven months ago) link

he was an ass

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 May 2023 21:50 (eleven months ago) link

I had forgotten the thing about his cousin.

Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 May 2023 01:04 (eleven months ago) link


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