having played bass for a long time I think it's an easy instrument to be good at and a hard instrument to be great at. you have to listen.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 20 May 2023 05:15 (eleven months ago) link
^this
― I & I, Claudius (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 May 2023 05:41 (eleven months ago) link
I sometimes think that the Boy with the Thorn in his Side 12", with this segueing into Asleep on the b-side was the perfect Smiths artefact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3baT8twPM9s
Who else ever sounded like this? Like the swamp blues being invented by the Brontës in 1828. Andy's bass and cello take it to another dimension.
― Piedie Gimbel, Saturday, 20 May 2023 07:18 (eleven months ago) link
that extended version of Barbarism gave me full body chills -- thank you for sharing. i could listen to Smiths instrumentals all day.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Saturday, 20 May 2023 14:08 (eleven months ago) link
which is to say that Moz can't befoul the music even if he befouls everything else he touches
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Saturday, 20 May 2023 14:09 (eleven months ago) link
If you look at that ticket price it cost $18 to see The Smiths in Los Angeles in 1985, unbelievable but all shows were around that price.― Bee OK, Friday, May 19, 2023 5:12 PM (yesterday)
― Bee OK, Friday, May 19, 2023 5:12 PM (yesterday)
100% untrue. The show the night before (in, like, actual Los Angeles) was $13.50.
https://i.imgur.com/HAfIbKs.jpg
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 20 May 2023 14:49 (eleven months ago) link
Hadn’t realized he had played on Morrissey solo material, now I am curious about which recordings exactly.
Last Of The Famous International Playboys and Interesting Drug both have an all-Smiths lineup (Morrissey, Rourke, Joyce and Gannon)
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:27 (eleven months ago) link
during the lifetime of the Smiths, I strongly disliked all post-Police, post Clash English acts of the 80s; by the 2000s, I could get over this enough to pick up Hatful of Hollow at the FMU record fair, and man was that a revelation. by 2013, I was looking to expand the remit of the punk-metal karaoke act that I had been running since 1999 in NYC, and so we did a new wave night: like UMS, I was flummoxed like a motherfucker trying to ace "This Charming Man."
I would add that above all, the quality that all bass players, even modestly skilled players, should keep in mind, should they be feeling unappreciated and inferior to the guitarist, relegated to root fifth, root fifth, root fifth like a drone, is that the song or composition or groove at its most fundamental level is located in what YOU are doing the overwhelming majority of the time.
― veronica moser, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:13 (eleven months ago) link
You disliked the Beat?!
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:21 (eleven months ago) link
I used to try to play along to “This Charming Man” although I never performed it with anyone else. Don’t know what exactly I was doing, must have been some simplified version, since last night I tried it for the first time in decades and couldn’t quite figure it out.
― Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:26 (eleven months ago) link
But why pamper life’s complexity?
― Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:29 (eleven months ago) link
If you look at that ticket price it cost $18 to see The Smiths in Los Angeles in 1985, unbelievable but all shows were around that price.― Bee OK, Friday, May 19, 2023 5:12 PM (yesterday)100% untrue. The show the night before (in, like, actual Los Angeles) was $13.50.― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, May 20, 2023 7:49 AM
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, May 20, 2023 7:49 AM
Why are you saying untrue? I was making a general point. Yes, I'm technically from Orange County and not Los Angeles but it's the Los Angeles TV and Radio market. I listened to KROQ at that time as OC didn't have like a similar radio station and ironically I did see that Palladium Smiths show too. That show cost $14.25, as you need to add the service fee.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:42 (eleven months ago) link
Or I should have said $15.25, so yeah my point stands.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:47 (eleven months ago) link
I thought it was a good-humoured "actually it was even cheaper than that!"
― Alba, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:50 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn9ihX4SBeA
― Cathy Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:56 (eleven months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/uU5JsyD.jpg
My actual ticket stubs with some bonus shows I saw. This was the third and last time I saw them and this would be The Queen Is Dead tour. This one cost me $19.50, inflation lol.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:13 (eleven months ago) link
There's part of me that regrets missing these shows massively (though granted I was in San Diego rather than the LA area). At the same time, I kinda appreciate how this *wasn't* my high school listening -- college, sure, but it's nice not to have those bands/music tangled up with said high school times. Probably explains why they last for me.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:18 (eleven months ago) link
I wish I still had my ticket stubs. I saw them in 1986 at what we affectionately called the "Cement Center" on the University of Colorado campus.
The SmithsSeptember 3, 1986CU Events Center, Boulder, CO
Still IllI Want the One I Can't HaveThere Is a Light That Never Goes OutHow Soon Is Now?Frankly, Mr. ShanklyPanicStretch Out and WaitThe Boy With the Thorn in His SideIs It Really So Strange?Cemetery GatesNever Had No One EverWhat She Said(with Rubber Ring intro and outro)That Joke Isn't Funny AnymoreMeat Is MurderRusholme Ruffians(with (Marie's The Name) His Latest Flame intro)The Queen Is Dead
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:37 (eleven months ago) link
Our seats were pretty far back, so it was hard to get a solid impression of the band. I did get to see Mike and Andy playing with Sinead on her first US tour a couple years later, we were right up front. I had no idea they were touring with her until I saw them. What a magic moment that was.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:41 (eleven months ago) link
Meanwhile their music is almost entirely tied into my miserable high school experience to a profound degree. I don’t think I listened to this band for 15 years after hs until it seemed like distant history bc my life had changed sufficiently.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:48 (eleven months ago) link
I can find almost no evidence online of that Sinead show, other than these photos from her press conference of the same day. Odd.
https://fairangels.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/sinead-oconnor-in-denver-1988/
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:50 (eleven months ago) link
xp I can relate, LL. For me, it was the middle of my college career, a time when I felt lonely, isolated and exhausted. I found the Smiths affirming as well as depressing.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:51 (eleven months ago) link
Bee OK forgot to mention that the $17.50 Nov 1986 New Order show at Irvine Meadows also included The Fall and The Durutti Column as openers
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 May 2023 05:52 (eleven months ago) link
I texted some friends that went to this show with me to see if we were on time. We were and The Durutti Column opened the whole damn thing. My mind is sort of blown right now as I realize that I saw the Fall live.
Thanks ET for taking me down that road for some early memories.
― Bee OK, Monday, 22 May 2023 00:16 (eleven months ago) link
Ah, yes, the "Pumped Full of Drugs Tour."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:28 (eleven months ago) link