General fighting games thread

The S1 pass will probably be discounted long before it actually delivers all four characters...
But yeah, I'm with you, I don't want to spend that much upfront. I haven't played the demo yet but I'm worried about a lackluster launch and $60 is enough

i'm always happy to just main a character from the base roster and not have to worry about dlc. i havent actually looked at who's in the base roster for this one tho

Classic 8 + Luke, Juri, Dee Jay and Cammy + 6 new characters - Jamie, Kimberly, Manon, Marisa, JP, and Lily. So, plenty to start.
I always look to play the new characters first. The OG World Warriors are always there if the new ones are trash. Ended up maining Laura last game pretty quickly...
Three of the four Year 1 characters are old ones anyway - Akuma, Rashid, Ed.

ah yeah thats a good starting roster i dont need dlc. i can play cammy or ken if theyre not too different

I was having great fun maining Kage in V, so I guess Akuma's the closest I'll get to that for a while, though all of the new characters look worth a try. I'll probably just buy the sucker magic beans edition tbh

I really like how this game has balanced having 3 supers per character at different meter levels, and they're all situational and distinct, as opposed to there just always being a big imperative to work towards popping off your single cutscene-length ultra move that takes off half the opponent's health

seeing it all written out, i think I'm good without - pre-ordered standard edition.

Maybe I'll buy the other three individually to spite that prick Ed.

I went for the Deluxe version, $96 Canadian, which I think is the most I have spent on a single game. Not accounting for inflation. I rarely ever buy games at their launch price.

Lily is the character I want to put serious effort into. I want to condor dive against fireballs like the AI would do to me in old games. Throw characters seem like they'll be good because it's an easy counter to drive impact. I'll be trying Akuma when he gets released -- my guy in SFA3 and what little I played of SF5. I'm curious to see if he still has a "vortex" with the drive system. It's interesting how the Drive system has made them rejigger the older characters. Dhalsim's long limb moves seem vulnerable to parry and drive impact -- instead of improving them, they made his fireballs better. Honda's hundred hands are worse than in previous games because their use is now as a counter to drive impact, having enough hits to break through its armor.

Will those Drive Tickets or whatever be able to purchase characters like Fight Money in SFV? Or it is just cosmetics for World Tour

Seems like it's just cosmetics. Capcom's page says "Drive Tickets can be used at the Hub Goods Shop." Links to a page that says "Tons of items are available at the Hub Goods Shop. Use them to customize your avatar to your liking."

so, worthless then

can't believe you don't want outfit 12 colours 15-20

VF beat-tribe cup top 8 happening right now

https://twitch.tv/majinobama

Mortal Kombat 1 (aka 12) officially announced for September 14. Follows the in-story reboot following MK 11 Aftermath with Fire God Liu Kang remaking the universe. First Kombat Pack will actually include a Jean Claude Van Damme skin for Johnny Cage, which is funny since they tried to get him for the original MK and it finally happened.
It's an exciting year!

MK1 kombat pack characters leaked: Quan Chi, Ermac, Takeda, Peacemaker, Homelander, Omni Man

Anyone messing with the Street Fighter 6 open beta this weekend? Pretty fun! Battle Hub concept that’s like an open arcade where your avatar can walk around and sit down at a machine and challenge or spectate whomever is neat. Game gets you into fights lightning quick, barely had time to take a sip of a drink between matches.

Aesthetically it’s kinda ugly though imo. Not too crazy about the art style and the whole create-your-own-avatar gooniness makes me feel like I’m walking around a Second Life space. And I’m vaguely annoyed by how they shove this Modern control scheme on you, took me a minute to navigate the kinda crappy UI to get it to default to Classic.

All set dressing though I guess, the fighting itself feels pretty good so far. I’ve already put in a few hours.

SFV was the ugliest street fighter's been imo, this one looks a little bit better. not bothering with the beta but i'll play the game when it's out

I kind of want to spend like 30 hours labbing before I jump online, which you can't really do in the beta

I am NOT losing my first ranked match 😤

SFV is very garish, I feel like maybe the naturalistic aesthetic of 6 is a bit of an overcorrection the other way, but this is the most interested I've been to try a crop of brand new characters since pretty much Third Strike

I honestly preferred the look of 5 to this, though it’s been years since I’ve looked at it. Kinda in a Zoomer/Fortnite zone here, but hey, can’t blame them for courting the next gen.

The new characters seem very capable, people are kicking ass with them already. I’m just mucking around with the familiars because there’s not a proper training mode in the beta.

yeah no training mode is why i shant play the beta, i have a need to test every character's moveset thoroughly and identify my main before i go online, in any fighter

in the beta, battle hub has practice mode. go up to an empty arcade machine and select solo training.

oh, I see that other people can challenge you. so use an empty server.

I am NOT losing my first ranked match 😤

I am ABSOLUTELY losing my first ranked match. Planning an almost-but-not-quite perfect loss in the first round then almost take the second until I choke and start mashing sweep.

On PS4 so no beta but been playing the demo & I like the feel of it. The look I'm indifferent to - need to play more than Ryu and Luke.

And I’m vaguely annoyed by how they shove this Modern control scheme on you, took me a minute to navigate the kinda crappy UI to get it to default to Classic.

Accidentally defaulting into modern controls was a mindfuck.

Yes, especially right after they ask you if you want classic or modern.

Here's a spreadsheet someone made of the moves available in modern. Some characters look viable. Kimberly and Juri are missing a few normals but have everything else. On the other hand Guile loses his overhead and his upside down kick.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QQnYBUua2MnA6CYYXcOwVyQoTrzOw_3bN8DEfiqkJJo/

what does "modern additional" mean?

I think it's that characters don't have every one of their special moves mapped to a simple command in modern, and for those ones you have the option of doing a classic style motion to access it.

Not sure what the benefit is of having an alternate motion for the moves that already have a mapped button for modern though. Maybe helps you keep your inputs consistent if you're trying to slowly learn classic but with training wheels idk

Didn’t think to mention it because it was so out-of-sight, out-of-mind, but the net-code they got worked out seems pretty impressive too. Had almost negligible amounts of wonkiness in dozens of matches while playing on Wi-Fi.

Seriously considering getting a Hitbox knockoff. Fightbox a.k.a. RAC-J800B sounds decent. It's not tournament-legal but I'm not good enough for tournaments. The only previous sticks I had were a $40 PS3 piece of shit and a SF4 Madcatz one that had reliability issues.

I've had one from the UK guy Furin Arcade since Feb and I wouldn't go back to another controller. Idk if it makes me gigantically better beyond me not randomly jumping by accident, but it's more fun and satisfying to me to play that way and it's easy on the wrists and hands.

I also had that jumping problem when using stick. Although I'm fine with d-pad.

Dipping in and out of work to muck about on SF6 - Ryu arcade run-through, quick go on the cammy, honda and manon guides, yelling at world tour to hurry up and let me use classic. Everything feels fun! Hopefully will get a few hours tonight.

Day 1 Blanka looks fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-sbw-YaMYg

I haven't had a chance to play it yet.

Finding it quite hard to adjust so far, the moves come out fairly easily but the timing for the dash cancel type stuff seems really demanding for a rapidly decaying guy like me

Early tutorial/combo challenge forays have JP as the surprise frontrunner for me

If I make every effort to switch to classic in every mode I play in hey maybe don’t default to modern in the first casual match I play. Happy to lose but not like this.

I feel like I've missed a 'never ever use modern controls unless I ask to use them' setting. I'm not against modern! Just let me be a happy six-button old man consistently.

Anyway, all fixed now. Went Cammy for a couple of casual matches - won one, lost one and it all felt great.

^ Genuinely annoyed by how you have to manually switch to Classic in multiple different menus. And it still manages to foist it on you depending on what mode you’re checking out.

Put a goddamn REMOVE THIS ABOMINATION FOREVER master switch in there already.

I know right! They finally changed the annoying combo trial thing from SF5 so it defaults to displaying the actual fucking inputs it wants you to do if that's what you pick, but now this shit!!

Completed Ryu's combo trials. This is a sign that I should main him, just until I understand the game a little better, that's all

The dash cancel stuff I think involves a lot of dialing stuff in while other animations are still happening so it's maybe more of a test of concentration than pure finger speed. Ken's regular move dash that he combos into other specials (ie his old v-skill) is still giving me trouble though, very inconsistent on those trials still

World tour mode is kind of dumb fun but the performance is randomly ass at various points on PC

I'm leaning to Manon but I might also fall back to Ryu while I train with her. I'd like to break my shoto habit but I do feel the want of a fireball.

world tour is 100% 'why can't i stop playing this dumb game?'.

btw thank you sarge for the info about getting the actual inputs in trials. Spent too much time in V squinting at the Sakura trials going 'into what now?'

also liking training mode - quick access to eg anti-air practice, plus things like the red/blue cancel hints are really helpful if your timing has always sucked

Played Lily and Zangief a bit. I did not know that SPD could be done with the old tiger knee motion (back rolled to up-forward) since SF4. Apparently you just need to hit all four cardinal directions (with diagonals allowed), so some hitbox users do back, forward, down, up.

Ken Advanced trial 4...good lord

Avatar battles are surprisingly entertaining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bTofdgJm3M

BLIND WARRIOR SVEN! @SvenvandeWege #Evo2023 pic.twitter.com/U1Wdc55yrr

— HiFight(ハイファイト) (@HiFightTH) August 4, 2023

I've been watching the SF6 stream and I didn't catch that one. Street Fighter 2 was an early game to use accurate sound placement -- Super Turbo used QSound for instance. SF6 has accessibility sound options and I hope Sven was allowed to use them in the tournament.

In a recent big SF6 tournament, the Zangief player Snake Eyez won 3-0 in the grand finals against a JP player. Zangief is considered one of the worst 2 characters in the game and JP is his worst matchup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdOYHnnHiG0

Snake Eyez is the same player who won the Evo 2010 HD Remix tournament with Zangief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vc40bFgQ2w