British Right-Wing Pundits

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In a Spectator interview published today, historian David Starkey offers a novel take on the "do you have any black friends?" question đŸ„Ž pic.twitter.com/XWsfPsrQXg

— Sunny Hundal (@sunny_hundal) May 5, 2023

groovypanda, Friday, 5 May 2023 16:04 (eleven months ago) link

"not openly racist to uber drivers" is the best defense he can muster, yes this sounds about right.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 May 2023 16:26 (eleven months ago) link

Spectator journalist Taki Theodoracopulos to face trial for alleged attempted rape in 2009 https://t.co/K1i9EzipYM

— The Guardian (@guardian) May 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:09 (eleven months ago) link

good

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:12 (eleven months ago) link

Not sure he classes as a pundit but this is straight up hilarious

Most of you have never shadow-boxed 10 rounds in a 200-degree sauna while listening to Tyrese as your workout music.

Then you have the audacity to wonder why you don’t get any pussy. pic.twitter.com/wfHtfXOS3G

— Andrew Tate (@Cobratate) May 13, 2023

groovypanda, Saturday, 13 May 2023 18:14 (eleven months ago) link

"I am a good tipper"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 13 May 2023 18:16 (eleven months ago) link

I've said before that this guy is insane but this guy is insane.

In a world where followers of Gramsci have seized control of virtually all institutions, winning elections or referenda isn’t enough. The blob must be defeated.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/24/woke-blobs-final-triumph-near/

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 10:23 (ten months ago) link

reminded me of this all-timer which he at least hasn't deleted (probably can't work out how)

Kwasi Kwarteng's Budget is a moment in history that will radically transform Britain https://t.co/w20tgpctDE

— Allister Heath (@AllisterHeath) September 23, 2022

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 25 May 2023 10:42 (ten months ago) link

what's his take on gramsci? I assume he thinks mussolini was right but I thought all the intellectual right wingers wanted to be good gramscians these days. is that what's going on here or has he just become part of the pantheon of evil alongside hegel and adorno and other unlikely pioneers of wokeness?

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:07 (ten months ago) link

I believe Gramsci's concept of hegemony - which opens up marxism to analysing cultural aspects of society as well as economics* - is useful for right wingers to push their narrative of "cultural marxism" so it makes sense he'd be a figure of hate.

*I have no idea if this is correct but I think it's the rationale

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:18 (ten months ago) link

has he just become part of the pantheon of evil alongside hegel and adorno and other unlikely pioneers of wokeness?

Bingo.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:20 (ten months ago) link

well that's boring. just more of the same old conspiracy mush like they turned hegel's dialectic into (which is something conservatives who really did care about the western philosophical tradition could actually work with, or through, or however it is)

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:49 (ten months ago) link

We're talking hacks, not people who even pretend to have ideas

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:00 (ten months ago) link

Even they couldn't deny Weltgeist is with China now anyway

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:11 (ten months ago) link

Labour parliamentary candidate says this

The world is not listening.

Sadly, the international community are captured by Militant far left campaign groups who have through bad policy, inflicted on the people of Yemen a permanent state of poverty of war.

Successive UN Special Envoys have tragically all failed #Yemen. https://t.co/d0e6UymrmQ

— Graham Jones xMP (@GrahamJones_MP) May 25, 2023

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:15 (ten months ago) link

trolling

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:16 (ten months ago) link

or gaslighting, or dancing on graves, or something

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:19 (ten months ago) link

at least it's not something you say intending to convince anyone, it's like a flex

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:21 (ten months ago) link

A form of political gaslighting like the "woke left blob elites" stuff, intended to create a sense of constant threat to real western values

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:25 (ten months ago) link

re gramsci: the US wingnut thesis -- as developed by william s. lind and others, re "cultural marxism" etc -- is that the blob has developed the techniques of saul alinsky, a chicago-based "community organiser" who wrote abt gramsci in the 60s or 70s (largely misunderstanding him IMO but that's by the bye), effecting the fabled "long march through the institutions" (marcuse quoting mao? who tf knows) which e.g. delivered obama as president

a small but growing number of uk wingnuts are these days very plugged into this circuit (hence this dweeb wetting himself abt meatball ron)

is it trolling? i mean it's annoying bcz shite being pumped into the plumbing is annoying, but there's a good case these ppl are by now simply talking to one another

mark s, Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:14 (ten months ago) link

This guy is definitely not trolling he is just a swivel eyed zealot.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:19 (ten months ago) link

There's no clear distinction between repeating your narrative and "belief" imo. This is rhetoric not philosophy

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:23 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

pic.twitter.com/TN3hM09L3O

— Mike Graham 🇬🇧 (@Iromg) June 14, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 12:27 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Douglas Murray's perfectly level headed response to the report into racism and sexism in English cricket (just be glad it's paywalled).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/01/the-left-now-wants-utter-abolition-of-britain-as-we-know-it/

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Monday, 3 July 2023 15:50 (nine months ago) link

“Come off it, anyone would be treated like that if they wanted sex with younger person, even if he wasn’t a minor!” I hear you type already. Really? While reading the latest from the Sun’s political editor, Harry Cole, about the “bombshell claims,” I recalled the time he tweeted excitedly about being in a coffee shop full of “jailbait”, and a gym full of “sixth form girls” (16-18 year olds). When I watched commentator Rod Liddle on BBC Newsnight defending the newspaper for behaving “impeccably” throughout their reporting in the public interest, I recalled his article recalling that he didn’t become a teacher because “I could not remotely conceive of not trying to shag the kids.”Over on Jacob Rees Mogg’s show on GBNews, Kelvin McKenzie defended the Sun for its campaigning journalism on Edwards’ case, despite the fact that while he was editor of the Sun he paid a 16 year old Samantha Fox to pose topless, publishing it on Page 3 of his newspaper. Over on TalkTV their International Editor Isabel Oakeshott discussed the “extraordinary parallels” between Edwards and Philip Schofield, although she didn’t notice the parallels with regular TalkTV guest and paper reviewer Simon Danczuk, who was offered the job after resigning from the Labour Party following the revelation that he had been sending explicit text messages to a 17 year old girl. Unlike the Huw Edwards scandal, all of these involved minors, yet few have received the extensive and venomous vitriol or professional repercussions that Edwards have. Indeed, they’re regarded as suitable, independent voices to comment on his case. They are all heterosexual.

https://huw.substack.com/p/a-sordid-scandal

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 12:09 (nine months ago) link

the Huw Lemmy substack article is really excellent. absolutely clarified some important things for me

vexingvexillologist, Monday, 17 July 2023 17:54 (nine months ago) link

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GB News presenter Dan Wootton used multiple fake identities to trick and bribe scores of men into revealing compromising sexual material.

The victims included members of the public, his own colleagues and a senior executive at News UKhttps://t.co/qzux8U19uN

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) July 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 July 2023 21:57 (nine months ago) link

This story hasn't exactly set the heather on fire yet

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 08:58 (nine months ago) link

Establishment media p likely to just ignore anything coming from the byline times, I'd think.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:00 (nine months ago) link

Don't know enough about byline times.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:02 (nine months ago) link

Oh I didn't mean they weren't credible, just that they're a self-proclaimed leftist news thing and that by itself means the establishment is likely to disregard.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:08 (nine months ago) link

What the Wehrmacht accomplishes in 1939-40 is one of most extraordinary feats of arms in human history. It’s increasingly unhelpful that this is the sole prism by which to understand threats to European security. pic.twitter.com/V0xiYsuPH6

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) July 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 July 2023 06:23 (eight months ago) link

I mostly get all my bullshit ww2 takes from P Hitch these days says Bas!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 31 July 2023 07:40 (eight months ago) link

Important that David Baddiel now becomes a mainstay of this thread, I think:

https://nitter.net/I_amMukhtar/status/1686303796891103232

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:45 (eight months ago) link

he's such a moron, because he did blackface 30 years ago and was shellacked on twitter for it - the greater meaning of this is all white ppl are racist.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:58 (eight months ago) link

Can definitely see this cunt benn given some sort of government role if Starmer wins the next election.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:08 (eight months ago) link

I’ve seen a few Centrist Conversations about this and apparently it’s Baddiel’s detractors who are bullies?

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:25 (eight months ago) link

kind of incredible that david baddiel has just decided that he wants to be a public intellectual so we all just have to get out of the way and let him do it despite him being one of the uk's dumbest, most self-centred pricks

and in this media environment that's really saying something

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:25 (eight months ago) link

in case we missed this seismic baddiel news from earlier in the week:

David Baddiel is to write a book about masculinity entitled The Male Gaze.

His extended essay will complete a trilogy of extended books following Jews Don’t Count, which tackled antisemitism, and The God Desire, on atheism and religion

He said the starting point for the title would be that men can both objectify women’s bodies and respect their minds.

Revealing his plans in a major interview with The Times, Baddiel said: ‘It’s possible that men can hold two thoughts in their head. So men can, for essentially libidinous purposes, imagine and see women in this way, while not denying their basic humanity.

‘Obviously women need to be CEOs and judges and politicians and prime ministers. Is it contradictory to also think, "I am interested in that woman physically"? Because I can’t help that interest. That’s part of being a heterosexual male.

‘It doesn’t mean that I see her only as a body. I actually am listening to her as well and think that she should be capable of everything that a man is capable of. The problem is that those two things feel contradictory and, yes, I guess that is what I would like to write about.’

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:31 (eight months ago) link

worth pointing out too that he wrote a book about atheism and religion in which he cheerfully admits to not reading many foundational works on the topic because he's smart enough to think about all that stuff on his own i guess

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:32 (eight months ago) link

‘It’s possible that women can hold two thoughts in their head. So women can, for essentially libidinous purposes, imagine and see men in this way, while not denying their basic humanity.

‘Obviously men need to be CEOs and judges and politicians and prime ministers. Is it contradictory to also think, "I am interested in that man physically"? Because I can’t help that interest. That’s part of being a heterosexual female.

‘It doesn’t mean that I see him only as a body. I actually am listening to him as well and think that he should be capable of everything that a woman is capable of. The problem is that those two things feel contradictory and, yes, I guess that is what I would like to write about.’

If, as a thought experiment, Baddiel had reversed his statement in this way, then maybe he would have realised what he was actually saying and junked the whole concept. I guess that didn't happen, or maybe it did and he thought it was a good idea anyway.

Scene report: Rochester MN (Matt #2), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:45 (eight months ago) link

worth pointing out too that he wrote a book about atheism and religion in which he cheerfully admits to not reading many foundational works on the topic because he's smart enough to think about all that stuff on his own i guess

i was just labouring to articulate this point when i realised you'd already made it

there's obviously a serious market for books about ideas written by entitled celebrities who aren't big readers

Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:33 (eight months ago) link

Some ppl don't want a struggle session with Hegel and this is ok.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:36 (eight months ago) link

This baby Michael Gove has been dying to be selected as a Tory candidate. He has a few delusions.

Had I ended up with a BA instead of a BSc, @FraserNelson wouldn't have taken a punt on me as a tech-proficient budding writer. Nor would I have had a half decent grasp of data. Nor would I think of clear writing through the lens of good coding syntax.https://t.co/smkbrBjqg9

— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) August 4, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 August 2023 09:08 (eight months ago) link

and yet he still hasn't cracked the formula for getting a parliamentary candidacy

Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2023 09:15 (eight months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2rlFQVWoAAS5LG?format=jpg&name=small

I can think of some reasons why a right wing ideologue would hate Michael Rosen as much as much as RR does. Like for example he's a very nice guy who doesn't like fascists and he turned down an mbe and was a vociferous Corbyn supporter. But turning him into an evil anti-Semite feels like an arduous task that involves much self-deception and heavy duty lying and slander. I think what annoys RR the most is that he's very popular, even amongst some conservatives. Because he's witty and charming and kids love him.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 18:44 (eight months ago) link

What is your definition of a kapo, o anonymous tweeter? (Just to help me locate myself in your worldview.)

— Michael Rosen 💙💙🎓🎓 (@MichaelRosenYes) August 4, 2023

he's got a good batting average against this kind of shite

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 18:50 (eight months ago) link

I can think of some reasons why a right wing ideologue would hate Michael Rosen as much as much as RR does. Like for example he's a very nice guy who doesn't like fascists and he turned down an mbe and was a vociferous Corbyn supporter. But turning him into an evil anti-Semite feels like an arduous task that involves much self-deception and heavy duty lying and slander. I think what annoys RR the most is that he's very popular, even amongst some conservatives. Because he's witty and charming and kids love him.

... and he's Jewish.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:23 (eight months ago) link

that's just a minor detail these days in the right-wing anti-Semitism smear game. Someone who is Jewish and grew up with an awareness of missing holocaust relatives and is avowedly anti-fascist can also be an an anti-Semite.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:32 (eight months ago) link


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