Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

Clears have been grabbing 'em for trillions of years, that's just how it goes

DO IT

The judge in the Carroll trial says he will allow Trump's lawyer until 5pm on Sunday to make a motion "on behalf of Mr. Trump to reopen his case for the purpose and the sole purpose of testifying as a witness in this case."

— erica orden (@eorden) May 4, 2023

in a civil case like this, can trump appeal if found guilty? can carroll appeal if he's found not guilty?

can trump appeal if found guilty? can carroll appeal if he's found not guilty?

I think the only thing Trump could appeal would be whether the size of the award was excessive. I don't think Carroll would have recourse to appeal if there was a finding of no damages.

Prosecutors investigating the former president’s handling of classified material have issued a wave of new subpoenas and obtained the confidential cooperation of a witness who worked at Mar-a-Lago.

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The existence of an insider witness, whose identity has not been disclosed, could be a significant step in the investigation, which is being overseen by Jack Smith, the special counsel appointed by Attorney General Merrick B. Garland. The witness is said to have provided investigators with a picture of the storage room where the material had been held. Little else is known about what prosecutors might have learned from the witness or when the witness first began to provide information to the prosecutors.

But prosecutors appear to be trying to fill in some gaps in their knowledge about the movement of the boxes, created in part by their handling of another potentially key witness, Mr. Trump’s valet, Walt Nauta. Prosecutors believe Mr. Nauta has failed to provide them with a full and accurate account of his role in any movement of boxes containing the classified documents.

In the past few weeks, at least four more Mar-a-Lago employees have been subpoenaed, along with another person who had visibility into Mr. Trump’s thinking when he first returned material to the National Archives, according to people briefed on the matter. Two people said that nearly everyone who works at Mar-a-Lago has been subpoenaed, and that some who serve in fairly obscure jobs have been asked back by investigators.

sounds pretty serious

xxp Any lawyer that lets him testify in person should be immediately disbarred, but it's probably reached a point where if they don't let him 'exonerate' himself in person, they know they might not get paid

Any lawyer that lets him testify in person...

As one of his lawyers recently stated 'all I can do is try'.

On Wednesday the defense team said its only other witness, a technical expert, was too sick to testify.

That meant the jury of three women and six men has only heard testimony from Carroll’s witnesses and Trump’s legal team has been limited to trying to discredit it.

you get what you (don't) pay for

What a train wreck this man’s life is.

Kinda hard to appeal on inadequate counsel when you yourself hired them

kinda wonder what their 'technical expert' was going to add to the mix... maybe an expert on department store dressing rooms or somethihng

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/05/fulton-county-georgia-trump-investigation-electors-immunity/

At least eight of the 16 Georgia Republicans who convened in December 2020 to declare Donald Trump the winner of the presidential contest despite his loss in the state have accepted immunity deals from Atlanta-area prosecutors investigating alleged election interference, according to a lawyer for the electors.

Prosecutors with the office of Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D) told the eight that they will not be charged with crimes if they testify truthfully in her sprawling investigation into efforts by Trump, his campaign and his allies to overturn Joe Biden’s victory in Georgia, according to a brief filed Friday in Fulton County Superior Court by defense attorney Kimberly Bourroughs Debrow.

...The news that some — but likely not all — of the electors will not be charged raises new questions about the scope of Willis’s examination of the meeting of electors, all of whom she previously identified as criminal targets in her investigation. The electors who accepted immunity did so without any promise that they would offer incriminating evidence in return, and they all have stated that they remain unified in their innocence and are not aware of any criminal activity among any of the electors, Debrow said.

“In telling the truth they continue to say they have done nothing wrong and they are not aware of anyone else doing anything wrong, much less criminal,” said an individual familiar with the investigation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the case.

yes, the GA gop electors who knew their guy lost and tried to overthrow the election results anyway definitely did nothing wrong and are not aware of anyone doing anything wrong. "much less criminal", meaning, no one even made a mistake at the meeting. everything was perfect, the speaking was perfect. the decision to knowingly try to make trump the president even though he clearly lost, not a mistake. the dinner orders were perfect, the amount of appetizers were right on, and everyone remembered the name of everyone else's children and asked how they were doing

Robbie Kaplan shows the clip of Trump saying stars "historically" grab women, "unfortunately or fortunately

"Who would say 'fortunately' to describe" an act of "sexual assault?" [...]

"He thinks stars like him can get away with it." https://t.co/v3VeiRY0yH

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 8, 2023

Dud.

what a strange way of talking he has

That cold, cruel insouciance in the clip. Nixon and Reagan weren't capable of it.

Nixon was neurotic, Reagan lacked compassion, but Trump is a full-fledged sociopath.

i agree, unfortunately or fortunately

Nixon has often been described as amoral, but I agree, he was not an obvious sociopath in the way Trump so clearly is.

nixon was an angry, bitter person who hated himself.

reagan was the poster child of toxic positivity, that particularly american brand of cruelty rooted in wilful ignorance.

trump is a gangster and an animal.

The verdict sheet in Carroll v. Trump is four pages long.

This first page illustrates the various theories under which a jury can find the former president liable of battery under New York's Adult Survivors Act.

Doc: https://t.co/6rGyXbcBvI pic.twitter.com/fWGmv1qhUE

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 9, 2023

The jury has reached a verdict in the civil rape trial brought by E Jean Carroll, who claimed Donald Trump raped her in New York in the 1990s

that was quick

Judge issues decorum warning for Carroll v. Trump verdict:

"No shouting. No jumping up and down. No race for the door."

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 9, 2023

No shouting holy shit a shred of accountability for the very obviously guilty man

Trump more likely than not sexually abused E. Jean Carroll, a federal civil jury unanimously finds.

Story soon, @LawCrimeNews

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 9, 2023

The judy did find that he sexually abused Carroll.

The jury has found that Trump did not rape Carroll.

$2 million verdict.

The jury also finds that Trump defamed Carroll.

Total awards: $5 million.

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 9, 2023

Joe Tacopina got a lot of adulatory press when Trump signed him as his lead defense lawyer. This jury shat all over him. Good on them!

and his numbers skyrocket among GOP voters

It's hard to put up a good defense when you really have none, and your client basically shrugs the whole thing off.

"Soros-funded jury" to trend on Twitter in three, two...

Joe Tacopina got a lot of adulatory press when Trump signed him as his lead defense lawyer. This jury shat all over him. Good on them!

― more difficult than I look (Aimless)

The late Glenn Frey excepted, no man looked more like autonomous life carved from capicola.

Isn't CNN supposedly hosting a townhall with Trump tomorrow?

an L for the orange man, may there be many more

i agree, unfortunately or fortunately

― treeship., Tuesday, May 9, 2023 12:29 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This clip is weird as hell, like all of this has been basic reality processed through a glitching AI

Joe Tacopina got a lot of adulatory press when Trump signed him as his lead defense lawyer. This jury shat all over him. Good on them!

Like Trump himself, Tacopina has been well known to East Coast natives for decades. As I said upthread, if Tacopina's your lawyer, you might get off (he got Meek Mill released), but everybody will know that you did that shit, and probably more.

Really happy for her. I wonder if this result will encourage others.

yeah, it would be great if he got a judgement like this say, oh, every other week for the rest of his life

fuck yeah.

Even beyond the end of his life.

I think the fact that he didn't show up once, not even on the first day, must've not done him any favors with the jury

post through it bitch

https://i.imgur.com/21s7f5X.png

i wonder if any of the other GOP candidates will attempt to use this against him.

maybe this is the greatest witch hunt of all time. I'm feeling pretty psyched about it right now anyway

massive respect to E. Jean Carroll though, I'm particularly glad the jury decided he defamed her

doesn't Fake News CNN have a town hall with Trump tonight

i wonder if any of the other GOP candidates will attempt to use this against him.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, May 9, 2023 8:40 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the won't

massive respect to E. Jean Carroll though, I'm particularly glad the jury decided he defamed her

― rob, Tuesday, May 9, 2023 8:42 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

absolutely

It looks like the town hall is tomorrow, assuming it is t cancelled