interesting little discussion here
Agree with your larger point and obviously you know Dillon personally, but I continue to question that he needs to play up to the line on offense to be able to do so on defense when Kyle Lowry and Marcus Smart have managed to find that necessary balance.— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) May 4, 2023
This season, his field goal attempts were down when Morant/Bane both played. He was taking a lesser role, but somehow shooting even worse. Made it clear he wasn't happy with that role, though.— Chris Herrington (@ChrisHerrington) May 4, 2023
yeah it was like it neutered him somehow— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) May 4, 2023
taking bad fall away long 2s are somehow his best % shots— Faceless Man (@Topher_Jones) May 4, 2023
yeah, for whatever reason that's been a bigger "me vs. me" -type battle for him than for those other guys you mentioned. Although in Lowry's case that also was accomplished by changing from an awful shooter to an awesome one.— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) May 4, 2023
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link
I suppose it’s possible that he goes from an atrocious shooter to a great one…personally I would not bet on it
― k3vin k., Thursday, 4 May 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link
yeah. Marcus Smart was 24 and in his 5th season when he became a more consistently good-enough-to-stay-on-the-floor shooter. Brooks is 27 and entering his 7th. tbf in a smaller role he was a league avg 3p shooter for his first few years, but unlike marcus he hasn't really shown improvement on offense, has moved in the other direction
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 4 May 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link
yeah marcus is a good playmaker too and just generally a high level basketball understander where brooks is very much not
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
marcus was also the no 1 PG in his high school class and the 6th pick in the draft. he should be better at all those things than dillon brooks.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link
and is
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link
he was the projected #1 pick in the anthony bennett draft but he stayed for his sophomore season, rare decision that never gets talked about, not sure he wouldve actually been the 1 pick in that fucked up draft but still very rare for someone whos projected so high to stick around
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link
wow didn't remember that
i wasn't suggesting they were comparable across the board, just looking for comps of guys whose shooting limited the role you could give them who made it work
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link
https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=brookdi01&p1yrfrom=2023&player_id2=smartma01&p2yrfrom=2023
― Spottie, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
yeah marcus has had a very weird career trajectory. i guess you'd put him in a group w/ like wiggins & harrison barnes as super hyped talents who, in retrospect, clearly were never gonna be perennial all stars but ended up as key role players on great/title teams. but it never quite felt like those two guys were ever like fully headed out of an NBA rotation the way it was w/ marcus for a bit?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link
interesting to me how few defensive stocks dillon picks up for a defensive minded player. more of a gets his body into you defender but not a lot of deflections/steals come from it
― Spottie, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
yeah. that feels like a wingspan thing. he also plays w/ the best rim protector in the league so that might have some effect on it... tho that also makes it easier for him to guard body to body as he does
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link
I think it's worth noting that Brooks has successfully promoted himself into the consciousness of the hoops media and fans to where we ILHers are arguing about his skill set and speculating about his next team. Not many 2nd round picks whose talent makes them a natural 'situational defense bench players' manages to draw this much of our attention. He's now marginally famous, where justin patton, DJ wilson, TJ leaf, terrance ferguson, etc have dropped off the edge of the world. This may not be an nba-level superpower, but you have to admit it is pretty astonishing.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link
also the game last night stank so there's nothing else to talk about
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
he promoted himself mush like patbev by being repulsive
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, May 4, 2023 2:08 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah dont remember if it was true by the end of the season but def at some point
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link
there's this theory that there is no bad publicity. we'll now see if NBA FO's think he's got that dawg in him, or if he just screwed the pooch.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
― J0rdan S., Thursday, May 4, 2023 2:11 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i dont think i ever thought he was gonna wash out but being an 8th man was def on the table, idk why he was ever considered a top prospect tbh part of it is prob that his class was weak and i guess that was the era when everyone was stoked on big dynamic point guards, but with say wiggins you can understand the hype its like he was built in a basketball laboratory, but with marcus i dont see it hes not that athletic he doesnt have some crazy deep bag etc
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link
guess it was more of a high school assessment which are not known for their accuracy cause by the time hed done two years of college he went 6th which is more accurate but even there you want to draft more of a high upside player typically
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link
yeah i remember watching him at ok st and thinking that he seemed like a good player but that he was clearly several levels below blake griffin or whatever
the players from the top 10 of marcus class who made the nba were nerlens noel, shabazz muhammad, kyle anderson, steven adams, sam dekker and anthony bennett. kris dunn was 11 on this 247 list i'm looking at. has to be one of the worst high school classes of the 2010s
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link
lol yeah thats bad
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
no less than 4 future Timberwolfs!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
hahaha
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link
it's amazing, like if all these years you would have just assigned a number 1-10 to the ten highest rated players left in the draft and used a random number generator to pick one, you'd probably have a better record
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link
BREAKING: The Milwaukee Bucks dismissed coach Mike Budenholzer, sources tell ESPN. Budenholzer is out after the East’s top-seed suffered a first-round loss to the Miami Heat. pic.twitter.com/wQp0Zk3lxi— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 4, 2023
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:52 (one year ago) link
there you have it
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
not much choice there
― Clay, Thursday, 4 May 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link
thank you for the wonderful culture of winning we love it but no thank you to the culture of losing in the first round it sucks
In a statement, Bucks GM Jon Horst said: “We are grateful for the culture of winning and leadership that Bud helped create in Milwaukee.”— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 4, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 22:10 (one year ago) link
damn rip big man
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 May 2023 22:15 (one year ago) link
trying to think of what underachieving team on the rise could use a floor-raiser like bud next season and im struggling.
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 4 May 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link
mavs
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link
thats crazy enough to work but i wonder if cubes would settle for a reliable camry rather than roll the dice on a yet-to-explode tesla.
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 4 May 2023 22:51 (one year ago) link
if i were a coach i wouldnt go near a team with kyrie on it, assuming they resign him
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 22:52 (one year ago) link
pistons?
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link
the suns should go for nurse. i like bud for detroit
― Spottie, Thursday, 4 May 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link
voodoo otm
bucks gotta get nurse
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 23:40 (one year ago) link
i bet he takes some time off and does somethibs style tour around the league advertising how he’s unlearning bad habitsbud feels like a much better coach than JB bickerstsff to me but the cavs seem locked in with him. the bulls? donovan prob maxing that roster out alreadythere really isn’t a good fit on paper. the bucks also had to pay out his final two years so unless he’s just one of these guys who can’t do anything with his life but coach basketball idk why he wouldn’t just wait around a bit
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 23:41 (one year ago) link
might be wise to see where wemby ends up then make a choice.
― Spottie, Thursday, 4 May 2023 23:44 (one year ago) link
i wonder if ime udoka regrets jumping on the rockets job lol
― call all destroyer, Friday, 5 May 2023 00:02 (one year ago) link
He should be happy to be back on a team as a head coach, getting paid millions. He was an assistant coach not that long ago, jumped up to head and then fucked up right away.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 5 May 2023 00:10 (one year ago) link
Nah we don’t want him sorry
― frogbs, Friday, 5 May 2023 00:10 (one year ago) link
tim connelly did a recent interview with wcco radio (which broadcasts the games locally) and refused to answer definitely yes or no regarding his future with the wolves
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2023 21:15 (eleven months ago) link
his own future?
― k3vin k., Monday, 8 May 2023 21:37 (eleven months ago) link
Yes he's being rumored for the Washington job
Would be so hilarious if he did the Gobert deal and jetted
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2023 21:53 (eleven months ago) link
wow!
― k3vin k., Monday, 8 May 2023 21:56 (eleven months ago) link
what does he know
Brian Windhorst believes Milwaukee could be in trouble with the uncertainty surrounding Giannis’ extension and the free agent decisions of Khris Middleton and Brook Lopez 😬“[Marc Lasry sold] because of the thundercloud that's on the horizon.” pic.twitter.com/VXhXWAv2LW— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) May 5, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 18:36 (eleven months ago) link
Knicks fans and NY sports radio already convinced they are getting Giannis.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:52 (eleven months ago) link
lmao
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:52 (eleven months ago) link
I know!
They haven’t even admitted they weren’t as good as Heat yet.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:56 (eleven months ago) link