stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

if he could learn to his an open three and understand his role hed be a solid starter but he seems pretty far from that right now

for sure. you're just gonna have a hard time convincing that, despite what NBA front offices thought, dillon brooks was not one of the 32 most talented players in his draft class. what was the amazing talent being displayed by justin patton, DJ wilson, TJ leaf, terrance ferguson etc? those guys are probably better athletes (though are they really?), but that isn't basketball talent

no doubt hed be in the 1st round of a redraft but also the draft is just kinda like that

interesting little discussion here

Agree with your larger point and obviously you know Dillon personally, but I continue to question that he needs to play up to the line on offense to be able to do so on defense when Kyle Lowry and Marcus Smart have managed to find that necessary balance.

— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) May 4, 2023

This season, his field goal attempts were down when Morant/Bane both played. He was taking a lesser role, but somehow shooting even worse. Made it clear he wasn't happy with that role, though.

— Chris Herrington (@ChrisHerrington) May 4, 2023

yeah it was like it neutered him somehow

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) May 4, 2023

taking bad fall away long 2s are somehow his best % shots

— Faceless Man (@Topher_Jones) May 4, 2023

yeah, for whatever reason that's been a bigger "me vs. me" -type battle for him than for those other guys you mentioned. Although in Lowry's case that also was accomplished by changing from an awful shooter to an awesome one.

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) May 4, 2023

I suppose it’s possible that he goes from an atrocious shooter to a great one…personally I would not bet on it

yeah. Marcus Smart was 24 and in his 5th season when he became a more consistently good-enough-to-stay-on-the-floor shooter. Brooks is 27 and entering his 7th. tbf in a smaller role he was a league avg 3p shooter for his first few years, but unlike marcus he hasn't really shown improvement on offense, has moved in the other direction

yeah marcus is a good playmaker too and just generally a high level basketball understander where brooks is very much not

marcus was also the no 1 PG in his high school class and the 6th pick in the draft. he should be better at all those things than dillon brooks.

and is

he was the projected #1 pick in the anthony bennett draft but he stayed for his sophomore season, rare decision that never gets talked about, not sure he wouldve actually been the 1 pick in that fucked up draft but still very rare for someone whos projected so high to stick around

wow didn't remember that

i wasn't suggesting they were comparable across the board, just looking for comps of guys whose shooting limited the role you could give them who made it work

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=brookdi01&p1yrfrom=2023&player_id2=smartma01&p2yrfrom=2023

yeah marcus has had a very weird career trajectory. i guess you'd put him in a group w/ like wiggins & harrison barnes as super hyped talents who, in retrospect, clearly were never gonna be perennial all stars but ended up as key role players on great/title teams. but it never quite felt like those two guys were ever like fully headed out of an NBA rotation the way it was w/ marcus for a bit?

interesting to me how few defensive stocks dillon picks up for a defensive minded player. more of a gets his body into you defender but not a lot of deflections/steals come from it

yeah. that feels like a wingspan thing. he also plays w/ the best rim protector in the league so that might have some effect on it... tho that also makes it easier for him to guard body to body as he does

I think it's worth noting that Brooks has successfully promoted himself into the consciousness of the hoops media and fans to where we ILHers are arguing about his skill set and speculating about his next team. Not many 2nd round picks whose talent makes them a natural 'situational defense bench players' manages to draw this much of our attention. He's now marginally famous, where justin patton, DJ wilson, TJ leaf, terrance ferguson, etc have dropped off the edge of the world. This may not be an nba-level superpower, but you have to admit it is pretty astonishing.

also the game last night stank so there's nothing else to talk about

he promoted himself mush like patbev by being repulsive

wow didn't remember that

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, May 4, 2023 2:08 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah dont remember if it was true by the end of the season but def at some point

there's this theory that there is no bad publicity. we'll now see if NBA FO's think he's got that dawg in him, or if he just screwed the pooch.

yeah marcus has had a very weird career trajectory. i guess you'd put him in a group w/ like wiggins & harrison barnes as super hyped talents who, in retrospect, clearly were never gonna be perennial all stars but ended up as key role players on great/title teams. but it never quite felt like those two guys were ever like fully headed out of an NBA rotation the way it was w/ marcus for a bit?

― J0rdan S., Thursday, May 4, 2023 2:11 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i dont think i ever thought he was gonna wash out but being an 8th man was def on the table, idk why he was ever considered a top prospect tbh part of it is prob that his class was weak and i guess that was the era when everyone was stoked on big dynamic point guards, but with say wiggins you can understand the hype its like he was built in a basketball laboratory, but with marcus i dont see it hes not that athletic he doesnt have some crazy deep bag etc

guess it was more of a high school assessment which are not known for their accuracy cause by the time hed done two years of college he went 6th which is more accurate but even there you want to draft more of a high upside player typically

yeah i remember watching him at ok st and thinking that he seemed like a good player but that he was clearly several levels below blake griffin or whatever

the players from the top 10 of marcus class who made the nba were nerlens noel, shabazz muhammad, kyle anderson, steven adams, sam dekker and anthony bennett. kris dunn was 11 on this 247 list i'm looking at. has to be one of the worst high school classes of the 2010s

lol yeah thats bad

no less than 4 future Timberwolfs!

hahaha

it's amazing, like if all these years you would have just assigned a number 1-10 to the ten highest rated players left in the draft and used a random number generator to pick one, you'd probably have a better record

BREAKING: The Milwaukee Bucks dismissed coach Mike Budenholzer, sources tell ESPN. Budenholzer is out after the East’s top-seed suffered a first-round loss to the Miami Heat. pic.twitter.com/wQp0Zk3lxi

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 4, 2023

there you have it

not much choice there

thank you for the wonderful culture of winning we love it but no thank you to the culture of losing in the first round it sucks

In a statement, Bucks GM Jon Horst said: “We are grateful for the culture of winning and leadership that Bud helped create in Milwaukee.”

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 4, 2023

damn rip big man

trying to think of what underachieving team on the rise could use a floor-raiser like bud next season and im struggling.

mavs

thats crazy enough to work but i wonder if cubes would settle for a reliable camry rather than roll the dice on a yet-to-explode tesla.

if i were a coach i wouldnt go near a team with kyrie on it, assuming they resign him

pistons?

the suns should go for nurse. i like bud for detroit

voodoo otm

bucks gotta get nurse

i bet he takes some time off and does some
thibs style tour around the league advertising how he’s unlearning bad habits

bud feels like a much better coach than JB bickerstsff to me but the cavs seem locked in with him. the bulls? donovan prob maxing that roster out already

there really isn’t a good fit on paper. the bucks also had to pay out his final two years so unless he’s just one of these guys who can’t do anything with his life but coach basketball idk why he wouldn’t just wait around a bit

might be wise to see where wemby ends up then make a choice.

i wonder if ime udoka regrets jumping on the rockets job lol

He should be happy to be back on a team as a head coach, getting paid millions. He was an assistant coach not that long ago, jumped up to head and then fucked up right away.

Nah we don’t want him sorry

tim connelly did a recent interview with wcco radio (which broadcasts the games locally) and refused to answer definitely yes or no regarding his future with the wolves

his own future?

Yes he's being rumored for the Washington job

Would be so hilarious if he did the Gobert deal and jetted

wow!

what does he know

Brian Windhorst believes Milwaukee could be in trouble with the uncertainty surrounding Giannis’ extension and the free agent decisions of Khris Middleton and Brook Lopez 😬

“[Marc Lasry sold] because of the thundercloud that's on the horizon.”

pic.twitter.com/VXhXWAv2LW

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) May 5, 2023