he should be coming off the bench as a defensive specialist and nothing more.
― Spottie, Tuesday, May 2, 2023 11:20 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
the problem being he is a bench player defensive specialist who wants to create a kryie/draymond level of drama
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link
hahahaha oh my god
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link
he prob decimated his value to a severe degree so i bet he does take a 1 year deal w/ a team like the lakers or nets
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
smells to me like lebron put the hit out on him and he's toast
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link
he will be on the wizards
patbev has continued to find work though he probably was a much better player at his peak
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
pat bev used to shoot 40% from 3!
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link
he was a good player on the rockets
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link
also dillon brooks averages 13.1 FGA per game for his career. the highest FGA per game in pat bev's career is 10.8 on the 17-18 clippers -- he only played in 11 games that season and that team's leading shot attempters ended up being lou williams, austin rivers and de'andre jordan. aside from that pat bev has never shot more than 9.5 times per game in a season
and i don't get the sense pat bev's teammates dislike him. that feels like a dillon brooks problem.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
Not a Brooks fan but “Under any circumstances” is shitty. The Grizz might want to look in the mirror for the culture they’ve created. https://t.co/bul9g0KKv9— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) May 2, 2023
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link
yeah I mean that’s a pretty extreme thing to say lol
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
xpost - at least on the Wolves which is when I was paying that kind of attention to him, I'd say Pat Bev was general loved in the locker room
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
Yeah I can see how Brooks is being used as a convenient scapegoat.
― Sid Bream You My Love (Leee), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link
was it the grizz saying those exact words... or was it shams as the mouthpiece for klutch?
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link
that's a good question. it's also worth noting that in the piece shams says that brooks and the grizz "mutually agreed" that parting ways would be best for both sides, but it doesn't make sense from brooks' side to shut that door when he's gonna be out there trying to negotiate a contract
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link
which is to say that this feels like it's coming from the grizzlies side, to me. i just don't see any way in which this is a positive for brooks and his agent
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link
seems stupid from the grizzlies side too, smoked any chance at a sign n trade type of thing to try and get something back in return.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link
― Spottie, Tuesday, May 2, 2023 12:31 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link
it is truly that you don't usually see nba teams tell starters to fuck off completely
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link
*true
dillon brooks entering his find out era
yeah, brooks was pretty obviously gambling for high stakes the whole season, rolling the dice on getting a big free agent contract. It started out quick with him testing the refs by complaining they didn't 'let him play his game' because he fouled a lot. He spent the entire season trying to project "I have no fear" as his brand, mainly by boasting, being obnoxious and playing dirty. The whole point of drawing all this attention to himself was that everyone would be watching him as he delivered a great season on the court and the Grizz went to the Finals.
He overplayed his hand and got caught bluffing. Some team will pick him up next season, but that big free agent contract? It's flushed down the crapper.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
his on-court production is not worth a big contract anyway!
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
he forgot that part
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link
well he couldve at least gotten a big contract for dillon brooks
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link
This is so crazy now pic.twitter.com/yHfvjnVvYR— Dom2K 🌊🏖 (@Dom_2k) May 2, 2023
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
really wondering if shams overstepped with the 'under any circumstances' part. it doesn't appear to be a direct quote
i can't recall any team in any sport ever saying such a thing? even trevor bauer got a much more anodyne statement
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link
lol absolute ethering by draymond
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link
― ciderpress, Tuesday, May 2, 2023 2:27 PM (forty-five minutes ago)
it depends on what you mean by "big" but he was prob in line to get something between a 4/60 and 4/80 contract, very standard rotation wing role player who hits FA money. at this point it feels like him getting even half of the 60 would be a surprise
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link
At the end of the day, Dillon Brooks wants a bigger role, and the Grizzlies can't offer that.DB on Sunday: "I was just there to three-and-D, shoot and play defense. I got way more to my game than that."My story on how the two sides came to a split. https://t.co/OYXTAeyMQC— Damichael Cole (@DamichaelC) May 2, 2023
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link
someone should show him his stats
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link
they say its not boasting if you can back it up. conclusion: he's boasting.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link
oh my god that draymond video lmaooooooooooo
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link
it was brutal at the time but now its apocalyptic
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:33 (one year ago) link
surprised/disappointed that no one in the comments put it over the ether beat yet
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link
how did I never see that draymond video!!!
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 3 May 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 2, 2023 3:27 PM (five hours ago) bookmark
ts%: 7th percentile3 pt shooting: 27th percentiledefensive rebound rate: 12th percentileassist rate: 52nd percentile
he’s been 97th and 95th %ile in defensive EPM the past 2 seasons but is in the bottom half of the league in steals and blocks. he’s got a ton of motor but there is basically nothing in his foundational stats to suggest he has any real skills to build on…the grizzlies (and likely any other contending team) realize his contract is going to be underwater the minute the ink is dry
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 3 May 2023 01:28 (one year ago) link
Had new Suns owner Mat Ishbia on my pod and asked him about his rivalry with Cavs owner Dan Gilbert. Put it this way: he didn’t duck the question. pic.twitter.com/QFeKFiRvoa— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) May 3, 2023
― Spottie, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link
need to know more about what dan gilbert does thats the wrong way
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:17 (one year ago) link
the whole interview is good, he has no idea what he's doing yet but sounds absolutely thrilled to be here lol
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 May 2023 00:21 (one year ago) link
I didn’t listen to the whole thing but my impression is the guy likes himself some cocaine
― k3vin k., Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:46 (one year ago) link
― k3vin k., Tuesday, May 2, 2023 9:28 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
hollinger:
It is impossible to discuss Dillon Brooks without discussing The Line, the razor-thin one between competitive and crazy that he must straddle to succeed as an NBA player.All players must do so, to a certain extent, but in Brooks’s case it’s a non-negotiable term of his NBA survival.Every significant player in the league got here because he has at least one freakish talent, one superpower. That goes for even the role players who you don’t often think about. Brooks’s superpower is “insane competitiveness,” and without it he’s probably playing in Grand Rapids or Gran Canaria right now. It got him in trouble sometimes as a younger player, especially. If somebody scored on him, he had to resist the urge to immediately score on that guy at the other end, no matter what kind of Kobe shot he had to takeAnd it got him in trouble more recently, obviously, when he played a wrestling heel a little too well at the start of the Grizzlies’ first-round series against the Lakers and couldn’t back up his words.Nonetheless, that fire is how he became an elite defensive player despite physical tools that would seemingly make such an achievement unlikely – including one of the few wingspans in recent league annals that measure shorter than his height, and a pudgy teenage body he transformed into its current chiseled state. To make it work, though, he has to play right on the edge, where it periodically spills over into techs, flagrants and forced shots. It’s a tricky balance.
All players must do so, to a certain extent, but in Brooks’s case it’s a non-negotiable term of his NBA survival.
Every significant player in the league got here because he has at least one freakish talent, one superpower. That goes for even the role players who you don’t often think about. Brooks’s superpower is “insane competitiveness,” and without it he’s probably playing in Grand Rapids or Gran Canaria right now. It got him in trouble sometimes as a younger player, especially. If somebody scored on him, he had to resist the urge to immediately score on that guy at the other end, no matter what kind of Kobe shot he had to take
And it got him in trouble more recently, obviously, when he played a wrestling heel a little too well at the start of the Grizzlies’ first-round series against the Lakers and couldn’t back up his words.
Nonetheless, that fire is how he became an elite defensive player despite physical tools that would seemingly make such an achievement unlikely – including one of the few wingspans in recent league annals that measure shorter than his height, and a pudgy teenage body he transformed into its current chiseled state. To make it work, though, he has to play right on the edge, where it periodically spills over into techs, flagrants and forced shots. It’s a tricky balance.
― k3vin k., Thursday, 4 May 2023 13:08 (one year ago) link
insane competitiveness *is* an NBA super power tho. i don’t think that part is bogus
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 13:57 (one year ago) link
idk most nba players are prob pretty competitive
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link
eric spoelstra would disagree with you on that one
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link
well, i guess he would more disagree with the notion that insane competitiveness isn’t an NBA superpower
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link
the issue is that brooks has the insane competitiveness without the counterweight of self awareness, which is what made that draymond clip so devastating. bcuz draymond has both
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 May 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link
the coach perspective is a particular one, they have these players and theyre not trying to analyze them theyre trying to win games, they cant really make the players better at basketball skills like shooting at least not in the short term so they focus on things like effort execution etc, which makes total sense, tho its not uncommon for coaches to get high on their own supply and start to believe that those are really the only things that matter and you see them do things like play washed vets over talented rookies
also i think theres a lot of things that people call competitiveness that arent really like motor which is more of a talent than it is an effort thing
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link
if extreme competitiveness was really "an nba superpower" (pile of shit phrase flush it away please) the league would be full of dylan brookses but its not and in fact he sucks
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 14:28 (one year ago) link
the reason everyone doesnt play with a marcus smart or draymond green level motor isnt because they lack the desire to achieve a basketball success wins mindset its because if they played like that they would make mistakes and be bad at basketball, like dylan brooks is, playing with high intensity is a skill not a power
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link
motor is it should also be said psychological some people just have more energy than others
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link