discogs marketplace?

Would have maybe been a reasonable decision to add charges to shipping if they had dropped the percentage to 6 or 7% at the same time.

guess they just figured out how much it will actually cost for added security to get rid of the recent flood of scammers

Anyone else seen these Discogs scammers that keep popping up via the wishlist messages? I have Denim's Novelty Rock vinyl on my wishlist which goes for crazy money. Suddenly copies were showing up (one for $31 and one for $69 which are good prices). They have free shipping and say, shipping from unknown. When I clicked on the record it says not for sale and then the feedback is a bunch of people saying, beware scam account. That happened a few days ago and I just got another one with the same album for the same price from a seller with a different name (GivMusicRecords is the current name). This one has
253,791 items for sale including a bunch of other things from my wishlist.

yes, they are uploading bulk csv files, prob gonna ruin the site soon if the owners don't get their shit together

I wondered how they had created so many listings already. Looks like Discogs are being quite quick in dealing with them but they should have found a way to block this seller somehow.

they just pop up again under another (hacked) inactive account alias, it's pretty fucked

here's another one

https://www.discogs.com/seller/MiroDiGhaesa/profile

The other day I actually fell for one of these blatant scammers in a weak moment; luckily only out $6.99. Hopefully PayPal will refund me.

there's this boxset I really wanna get, on Discogs it's quite expensive but Amazon has it for $35 cheaper

weird thing is, it drops in price by exactly 3 cents every few hours. has anyone seen anything like this before?

The Amazon price or the Discogs price? Amazon uses dynamic pricing all the time.

If the scammers figure out a way to create fake feedback, Discogs is done. It's now the only line of defense against these scumbags

seller responding to an order with the message "don't have it, it was listed six years ago" and I just feel like replying 'so your incompetence isn't just a recent thing then?'

sorry that sounds a bit pompous, and to be fair, he did still have 3 of the 5 items i ordered in stock

LMAO. To be fair, I typically place orders with combined shipping - usually there's a used CD that with shipping would be the same price as a new copy elsewhere, but combined with at least one or two other items, it's real savings. I once bought a box set and another disc only to be told that the box set was no longer available but they're shipping the CD - I was able to message them before they did and basically said this is kind of a bait and switch.

I would demand a full refund if any seller sent out an order like that without asking first.

Update on my sorry tale - the seller couldn't find yet another one of the records (3 out of 5 missing!), so he just cancelled the order as it was down to a couple of one quid makeweights. Brilliant!

It's always fun when the person I buy from turns out to be a musician or critic

one time I bought from an ilxor! (nerve pylon)

Been buying stuff off here for years without issue, but now I’m seeing a lot of very suspiciously priced records - bought one without really thinking and it turned out to be a scammer. PayPal gave me a refund real quick but still, check the feedback y’all

Yeah, it's become a real problem in recent months.

This is not what I ordered, I could have gotten this pressing at like 5 stores near me :-(

Been buying stuff off here for years without issue, but now I’m seeing a lot of very suspiciously priced records - bought one without really thinking and it turned out to be a scammer. PayPal gave me a refund real quick but still, check the feedback y’all

― frogbs

Fell for my first scammer yesterday. It wasn't anything crazy or suspicious, just the new Sparks album on vinyl for a slightly better deal than I've seen anywhere else (seems like it's quite hard to get here in the U.S.). Got an email this morning saying their account had been suspended. I saw they had two good feedbacks and didn't think anything of it. Looking now at their feedback, it was two new sellers who had no feedback/history etc. Ugh, this really is going to ruin the site isn't it?

i cant believe there isnt a music journalist out there documenting the fall of discogs. its fascinating watching it happen in real time.

— ms (@MikeSimonetti) July 17, 2023

Ugh. That's frustrating. Makes me feel like a sucker for cataloging all of my stuff; it took so much time! And it's going to wind up being useless. Lesson learned: free shit on the internet will not last.

it's been dead for a long time imo

feel like the cataloguing side of the site might live on, I mean a bunch of people put a lot of work into that I don't think it's just gonna disappear. but yeah the marketplace has slowly gotten worse, the scammers are still somehow everywhere despite them all following a very recognizable pattern, they've never fixed any of the existing issues and so yeah here we are

depressing. wonder if any other sites could just pick up the cataloguing? I'd say allmusic but that's become a bloated mess itself. Would be nice if Wikipedia could do something similar.

thanks for the nudge, downloaded my collection so I don't lose all the work I put into it. not going to trust that it will be accessible in the future. unfortunately doesn't include sales history data, and only limited info on the release version

^^ same

*depressingly adds Discogs to the list of online sites I make a monthly data download from*

The internet gets better every day.

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"Also, whether you like to admit it or not - Covid is over. People are leaving the house now and spending their money on other things- like $25 cocktails for example. There isnt as much disposable income out there for records like there were post covid"

uh, i beg to differ. but maybe this will change.

their walls are all full now

i haven't had any recent problems with selling on discogs but again time will tell. i don't sell on ebay anymore - the venture capital people running that site are arguably worse to sellers than discogs if not worse than the most hated amazon. i REALLY don't want to go back to ebay. like rilly rilly rilly. i mean i might just find another way to make a living than go back on ebay.

plus, its summer and people go away and on vacation and don't do as much online shopping in general. that happens every year. as far as "there isn't as much disposable income out there..."

i don't sell overseas. i can't charge someone $25 shipping for a record! or whatever it is now. it made my life so much easier. don't care if i am annoying northern soul fans by not shipping to brighton or wherever.

as rocky as discogs might seem, there is nothing on earth as bad as selling on amazon and they are the biggest company on earth outside of apple. so, i dunno, all online marketplaces suck? which is why so many people are doing FB marketplace, whatsapp auctions, etc.

all current online marketplaces do suck. you'd think that would make the market ripe for some disrupter, and maybe there is one brewing, but I also think that perhaps the margins for such a marketplace are likely so small that this is not really a compelling business for investors to set up and back, while ebay is still around.

I have DEFINITELY noticed a slowdown in sales, pretty much from February or so through to now. There was a period of a month or so when I sold nothing, nada, zip, zilch — I had to go check whether my store was actually visible.

Have also noticed a drop in sales at the bricks & mortar place, maybe 15-20% over last year (altho curiously March was an exceptional month this year).

i would give up on online selling entirely but it would mean too many things would sit around in my store and in order to sell them i would have to mark them way way down for in-store sale. or start doing record shows again.
for instance, i put a Gotye record up for $100 the other day and it sold in an hour on discogs. it might never sell in my store for $50. just because of where i am. unless some dealer came in who knew the going online rate for gotye records. that quick $100 helps me keep going/staying open/buying/etc.

"you'd think that would make the market ripe for some disrupter"

there was some place people were flocking to for a minute and now i can't remember what it was. a place to sell instruments but also records...

honestly, all i need is bare bones discogs! i never need their help with anything. i just need the site to exist. that's a pretty low bar.

i do sell more expensive records in the store than i ever did before. one of the benefits of all new records being wildly overpriced. people don't blink at ANY price anymore.

The other place was Reverb, but they stopped allowing record sales around the start of the pandemic.

(in fact i would say the cheaper stuff sticks around forever and people really do want more pricey "collectable" type things in general. which means there are probably lots of great cheap records out there in stores everywhere! i am always amazed at stuff that sits all day at record shows when i go to them. just huge amounts of goodness that are not cure/smiths/zep/dead/beatles/blah/blah/ugh/barf...)

ah right Reverb! well, no wonder i stopped hearing about people going there to sell.

maybe people will move to Musicstack. i think they are still there. i know Gemm is gone.

we are actually changing the name of our store so maybe its time for a total rebrand. *THE ONLY USED RECORD STORE IN MASSACHUSETTS THAT DOES NOT SELL ONLINE!*

i would LOVE it if it weren't for that pesky $100 Gotye conundrum...

there’s a store near me that also doesn’t do discogs, the owner is like “the second I have to open a discogs account to survive is the day it will stop being fun for me”. it’s small and they move a lot of discs, lots of enthusiastic young folk clientele, frequent special sales to make room for incoming collections they bought, good vibes <3

nice!

i mean its nice if you can make it work. i sell every day on discogs. not having that money would be very noticeable. years ago i didn't sell as frequently. i also put stuff up for sale every day now which i didn't do in the old days. i have made a conscious decision to make my life less fun and try to make more money.