stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

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damn rudy has a player option in 2026

the wolves aren’t in an idea situation, but they have a budding superstar who’s 21 and a guy in KAT who should be tradeable despite his obviously limitations; he’s still on the team that drafted him and I don’t think there’s precedent for a guy with his pedigree not finding a suitor to give him another shot in a new situation. the clippers are a disaster but then playing in LA makes things a little easier to swallow…even still I’d probably rather be the wolves

k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:21 (eleven months ago) link

I don’t think there’s precedent for a guy with his pedigree not finding a suitor to give him another shot in a new situation

we also don't have precedent for players getting paid $50m+ per year. if you trade for KAT you're taking on salaries of $50m, $54m & $58m for the three seasons *after* next year (he gets paid $36m in 23-24) right as the new CBA rules that hammer teams for going too far into the tax kick in. now, the CBA does incentivize teams to go some way into the tax, but if you're paying KAT $55m you're presumably trying to compete in a real way while operating under an effective hard cap. and you know that KAT has to be, at best, your second best player if you're going to be a title contender. so then you gotta find another guy making a similar salary or even more, while also filling out your roster & you're down assets (presumably) bcuz you traded for KAT.

all of which is to say again if i'm the wolves i'm trying to get rid of KAT immediately. the future on that contract looks really bad & i don't see how his value increases the closer those $50m salaries become to reality. i think he can play better in the playoffs w/ more experience (he just does a lot of dumb shit) but he's also a 27 year old who has been in the league for 8 years. i think we probably know what he is at this point.

i'm really curious how teams look at guys like dame, beal, KAT etc who could be out on the market but have the insane extensions that from my perspective look even worse given the new CBA landscape

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:33 (eleven months ago) link

KAT is a much better player than just being a "salary dump" but if i could salary dump that contract & get nothing back except some roster clarity & future salary cap space i'd do it

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:37 (eleven months ago) link

he also missed 2/3 the season. and extremely untimely injuries to 2 of their top 6 players. i think theyll be a top 4-6 team next year if everyone stays relatively healthy.

Spottie, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:49 (eleven months ago) link

are you talking about the t wolves

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:51 (eleven months ago) link

Yah

Spottie, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:03 (eleven months ago) link

Kat entering his prime. Ant, Jaden another year older. Full season w Conley instead of DLo

Spottie, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:06 (eleven months ago) link

putting denver aside on one end and houston, san antonio, portland & utah aside on the other end you could plausibly tell me that any of the other 10 west teams could finish between 4-6. but i still see the wolves as an 8-12 team

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:14 (eleven months ago) link

the biggest thing that sucked about KAT being out for so long is it provides this blank space where you could project anything, we went through a whole year and still don't really know. i could see management going either way, get out from under KAT get back some picks or - which I think is plausible - what Spottie just said, run this back and it can only get better.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:22 (eleven months ago) link

are they willing to pay naz reid is another question. their tax bill is gonna start hiking real quick

Spottie, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:37 (eleven months ago) link

I just don’t think a team with edwards, gobert, and either KAT or what KAT gets flipped for is a real threat to finish out of the play-in. they’re probably closer to 6-8 than 4-6 imo tho

k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:43 (eleven months ago) link

are they willing to pay naz reid is another question. their tax bill is gonna start hiking real quick

― Spottie, Wednesday, April 26, 2023 3:37 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think they are going to let him go, hopefully to the jazz so him and walker kessler be the twin towers of wolves regret

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:47 (eleven months ago) link

feels like ant will eventually be good enough to earn a top 4 seed for whatever team he's on, but also feels like that team isn't gonna be minnesota

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:54 (eleven months ago) link

they need to can finch. he clearly has no clue.

micah, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:55 (eleven months ago) link

the more I think about it, given Ant's and Jaden's progression it would be nice - had the Rudy trade not happened - to have the option of trading KAT, getting another good player and picks, having a Naz Reid and Walker Kessler as diet KAT and Rudy but way younger and cheaper, then keeping some of the intriguing young pieces like Alexander-Walker, Josh Minott, Luka Garza and being in the same zone as OKC

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 22:12 (eleven months ago) link

uhh....ok?

Anthony Edwards could face legal action,per @DenverSportsCom

“A law enforcement source said Edwards picked up a chair & swung it, striking a security guard…A source confirmed the incident and said both employees were injured & asked to file charges.”

pic.twitter.com/gtSYeMA5YR

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) April 26, 2023

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 22:32 (eleven months ago) link

I mean... c'mon

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 22:32 (eleven months ago) link

im not seeing much there but idk.

Spottie, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 22:36 (eleven months ago) link

i think we can all agree it should be legal for ant edwards to do wrestling moves on ppl and arena employees sitting courtside

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 April 2023 22:38 (eleven months ago) link

I keep watching that clip and wondering what I'm supposed to be seeing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 22:39 (eleven months ago) link

well he's swinging a metal chair in a crowded space while running which isn't wise but it's not the ideal angle to know what the hell happened

Clay, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 22:43 (eleven months ago) link

a better angle

Had this sent to me, Idk original source. Credit to them.

It is unreal how something as harmless as moving a chair can get the assault label and ensuing fallout.

Everyone involved is a joke. pic.twitter.com/IbOL04ptz1

— Jackson Lloyd (@JacksonLloydNBA) April 26, 2023

Spottie, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:36 (eleven months ago) link

Unbelievable

Lol also as more and more phone videos of this are going to surface and studied like the Zapruder film

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:38 (eleven months ago) link

very serious stuff call the cops

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:40 (eleven months ago) link

i mean he clearly hit the blonde lady in the back. that would hurt

micah, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:40 (eleven months ago) link

video got sent to us

k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:42 (eleven months ago) link

yeah kinda hard to tell still but the tip of one of the legs coulda dinged her pretty good. reckless and dumb from the kid.

Spottie, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:43 (eleven months ago) link

lad,

Clay, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:46 (eleven months ago) link

extremely normal thing to do with a metal chair

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:49 (eleven months ago) link

dont worry im sure both employees are going to get a nice little check for calling the police

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:01 (eleven months ago) link

if thats what file charges means in the first tweet maybe its just some hr shit if so fine please stop swinging chairs laddy

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:04 (eleven months ago) link

although it does saw law enforcement source i guess

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:05 (eleven months ago) link

does acab include security guards

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:06 (eleven months ago) link

surely the team will cough up a bag of cash to get them to not press charges that's just how this works right

Clay, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:07 (eleven months ago) link

💰

ciderpress, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:08 (eleven months ago) link

idk its not like theres a felony there lawsuit is prob the more likely thing they want to avoid

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:20 (eleven months ago) link

if you were at a cookout and some guy swung a chair celebrating getting a ringer in horseshoes and he accidentally hit two people a little bit with the chair and they called the cops would they even come idk

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:29 (eleven months ago) link

i support a little involuntary wealth redistribution. ant can afford it

micah, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:36 (eleven months ago) link

would think itd be the team that pays but same diff

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:38 (eleven months ago) link

maybe theyll fine him idk

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:38 (eleven months ago) link

cavaliers, bucks: welcome to the nba offseason

ciderpress, Thursday, 27 April 2023 04:42 (eleven months ago) link

shams already on the bud beat hes done

“Mike Budenholzer’s status as Bucks head coach is very much shaky, there are questions across the organization… I’m told Budenholzer has two years and $16 million left on his contract.”

NBA Insider @ShamsCharania reports on Milwaukee following its disappointing playoff exit. pic.twitter.com/WhmEtPNR5R

— The Rally (@TheRally) April 27, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:22 (eleven months ago) link

$5M for each timeout he didnt use

micah, Friday, 28 April 2023 00:37 (eleven months ago) link

The Rockets have "addressed the idea" of trading Jalen Green, per @JakeLFischer

Potential targets for Houston include James Harden and Khris Middleton pic.twitter.com/KThyNRpRcQ

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) April 28, 2023



huh.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 April 2023 18:09 (eleven months ago) link

i love to address an idea

lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 18:12 (eleven months ago) link

thats what the offseason is all about

ciderpress, Friday, 28 April 2023 18:13 (eleven months ago) link

trading a second year high draftee is such a bad org signifier

lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 18:16 (eleven months ago) link

how is he? has he been bad or are they just being weird?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 April 2023 18:19 (eleven months ago) link

hes been bad but not unpromising, i think he was the worst finisher at the rim this year, but dont worry because jabari smith was the worst above the break three shooter

lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 18:21 (eleven months ago) link

ok who’s starting the new thread

k3vin k., Monday, 23 October 2023 18:49 (six months ago) link

2023/24 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD "THANKING FOR WEMBANYAMA"

lag∞n, Monday, 23 October 2023 18:57 (six months ago) link

last of the stashing - hawk's extend Okongwu's rookie deal, 4yr 62mil but do not extend Bey who will now be a free agent this offseason

Heez, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 02:22 (six months ago) link

that could be a steal of a contract for okongwu

oatly carmichael (m bison), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 02:24 (six months ago) link

agreed he fits a whole lot better in Snyder's scheme. replacing Collins and Capela with Okongwu and Johnson is going to make the hawks really fun

Heez, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 02:32 (six months ago) link

locking up a young guy on a cheap deal usually works out pretty good if theyve any promise

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 02:41 (six months ago) link

i guess thats not totally a cheap deal but it seems pretty reasonable

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 02:46 (six months ago) link

in *this economy* thats a great deal

oatly carmichael (m bison), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 03:01 (six months ago) link


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