A halo of warmth in the darkness of the year: what are you reading spring 2023?

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Having diverted from it to read some other marvellous books, I remembered that I need to keep on with Bono's SURRENDER. It's still readable, entertaining, stimulating, not even slow to read. Yet I'm still not halfway through. It's long.

The mid-1980s are probably the most interesting time I could read about. There's a page on what a good period it was when they were recording THE JOSHUA TREE, in Malahide I believe. Another couple of good pages on the melancholy 'promenades' around Bray and Greystones (surprisingly far out from the city, if Bono was actually living there - in a Martello Tower! - which he connects slightly to Yeats but not at all to Joyce).

From the LPs in 1984 to 1987 was 2.5 years (with a mini-LP in 1985 if you like). At that time this was a relatively long gap. What happened? Maybe they were just touring, maybe it took time make the LP. But also ... Bono (with wife Ali) was living in Ethiopia for a while in 1985, then Central America for a while in 1986. Maybe not long periods but they would have taken organisation at both ends. I wonder, therefore, if one reason for the slightly long delay between LPs was, *already*, Bono's extra-curricular activities.

He can skip over some things rather quickly - the JOSHUA TREE tour, for instance. The Dublin sessions for RATTLE & HUM are hardly mentioned at all, though they're vivid in the film (and interviews take place there). Now we're almost on to ACHTUNG BABY. But not halfway through the book. Logically that suggests that half the book will be concerned with things like ... Bono's debt campaigning, his controversial meetings with world leaders (which he's already discussed), and the less popular later records?

Bono is intellectually lively, if not deep. I'm happy to see him engage with various ideas and people (Mikhail Gorbachev for instance). But I do worry more when he says 'Douglas Alexander has been advising me for the last 5 years'.

the pinefox, Sunday, 23 April 2023 09:39 (one year ago) link

may seem odd me jumping in here to defend terry eagleton (!) abt what constitutes influence (!!) but couldn't he simply mean that
(a) W&W were the first to turn up and say "we all need a THEORY of literature and here it is", and
(b) who was being "influenced" is everyone who then said "well yes we DO need one… just not THAT one"

anyway here's the one *i* favour:

novels are so great. novels are like "i made up a little weirdo. oh no, now he's in trouble!"

— Gabrielle Moss (@Gaby_Moss) April 22, 2023

mark s, Sunday, 23 April 2023 09:58 (one year ago) link

I hope for a long Mark S article in praise of Terry.

the pinefox, Sunday, 23 April 2023 12:17 (one year ago) link

weird question, but figure it’s the right place to ask: anyone have a favorite book on the the great fire of London?

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 23 April 2023 12:43 (one year ago) link

mine is pepys's diary but i suspect that's not what you have in mind

(important detail: he buried his big parmesan cheese in the garden to save it from the flames)

mark s, Sunday, 23 April 2023 12:58 (one year ago) link

I mean I would too

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 April 2023 13:02 (one year ago) link

I like the idea of Pepys’ diary (and also the experimental novel by Roubaud), but yes, looking more for straight history, perhaps from a left leaning perspective

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 23 April 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link

Overstory - Powers

Really into it! Makes me want to re read all the nature writing I read in college

calstars, Sunday, 23 April 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

Magda Szabó - The Fawn
A collection of Weldon Kees poems.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 April 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

I still never tired of descriptions of reacher elbowing some shithead in the face.

Writing action like that is hard. You have to be vivid enough to pull the reader's imagination entirely into the scene and terse enough that the pace feels breathtakingly quick.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 23 April 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link

Overstory - Powers
Really into it! Makes me want to re read all the nature writing I read in college

Will have to check that--also, I keep coming across killer quotes from Thoreau (latest round started in Kim Stanley Robinson's meganovel Greem Earth, whose author is at his own best involved with East and esp. West Coast Great Outdoors). Turns out my local library has even more HDT than KSR, oh boy---and I'll ask them to borrow or buy Robinson's awesome-looking nonfiction
The High Sierra: A love story.
(He is someone who reportedly combined acid with mountain-climbing early on, much more successfully than young Hank Williams JR.)

dow, Sunday, 23 April 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link

The history of the blues Francis Davis,
Seems to be a pretty decent read, I'm enjoying the writing. He's gone back to look at pre Blues Minstrelsy and what W.C. Handy heard in a waiting room in 1903 and links to musical theatre. He's also looked at Ali Farka Toure and sees his music as having influence from John lee Hooker and is dubious about the influence being clearly the other way. Like Toure being an existing fan of Hooker before he started citing Hooker as obviously descending from teh West African styles. Think that may be overly cynical but maybe that fandom should be noted, does seem to be a problem with direction of fit.I think that African influence is there anyway.
But anyway, seems to be a decent book , interesting read quite anecdotal andsustaining my interest. I have had this out of the library too long without really looking at it. So need to get through it now.

Not A Nation of Immigrants Roxanne Dunbar Ortiz
her book on settler colonialism . I read her talking about people of Spanish descent including a gentrifying level where people descending from Pueblo Indians were now drifting into claiming themselves to be Spanish recently despite years of Spanish on Pueblo oppression.
I'm now in a section on Irish settlement which reminds me I still need to read Theodore Allen's book The Invention of The White Race which I think I got slowed down on because of the plethora of endnotes. Anyway a book that i do still really want to read which talks about the British settling Scots in Ireland and use of the country as a colony which became a prototype for what they did to set up empire.
The Dunbar Ortiz is really good and I've wanted to read it since it was released a couple of years ago.

Stevo, Monday, 24 April 2023 09:22 (one year ago) link

I finished two stories in the Penguin book of French stories:

Claire Sainte-Soline, 'Le tabac vert', about a farmer, his wife, and his father. Much tension down on the tobacco farm. The tense (in a different sense) and much of the vocabulary were hard for me and I must often consult the parallel English text. One word to stay with me from this story is 'feuilles', leaves, which must also be the source of 'fueilleton' (a kind of newspaper as I recall).

Roger Grenier, 'Une maison place des fetes': the writing here feels much simpler, and is also discernibly slangy / colloquial at times. I was able to follow it without the English version much more often. The story describes a lad, a trainee lawyer, and his dalliance with two women. It's very much like an Éric Rohmer plot. It's surprisingly racy - the protagonists are always saucily making passes at each other - in a way somewhat in keeping with the colloquial tone. It ends with a summary paragraph about the passing of time. 'Chacun de nous a ses petits pelerinages, ses tombeaux.' I really quite enjoyed this.

the pinefox, Monday, 24 April 2023 13:01 (one year ago) link

mine is pepys's diary but i suspect that's not what you have in mind

(important detail: he buried his big parmesan cheese in the garden to save it from the flames)

― mark s, Sunday, 23 April 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Saving this advice for when London burns again (climate change edition)

xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 April 2023 13:06 (one year ago) link

A friend of mine sent me a photo of an enormous book in his collection that consists of 400 pages of poems on the fire and rebuilding of London written at the time. Hard to find, apparently, as few copies were printed, but I am going to try to locate a copy.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 24 April 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

I return to John le Carré's SILVERVIEW - I was halfway through. Quick to read, it grows on me.

the pinefox, Monday, 24 April 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

It's solid.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 April 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

it's good

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 April 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link

Rereading Junichiro Tanizaki's Some Prefer Nettles

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 09:10 (one year ago) link

I interrupted my reading about the French Revolution long enough to read a short palate-cleanser, Aiding and Abetting, Muriel Spark. It was quite clever, but it ended on a very silly note that felt like she just gave up on finding a better ending and tacked one on blindfolded, like pinning a tail on the donkey.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

I'm about 2/3 of the way through Birnam Wood. It's taken some unexpected turns; it started out kind of "cozy," but has got much darker. I'm still not 100% sold on the character of the sociopathic billionaire, but she's a very capable writer, whose sentences just sort of carry you along. I imagine her reading in the voice of Sophie Townsend, the woman who did the "Goodbye to All" podcast.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

Started reading
Augusto Boal Legislative Theatre
which arrived yesterday. It's an experimental book based on his time in government. He had the idea that the reader should read it in the order they chjose depending on what they wanted to get out of it. In the introduction he mentions a few points taht some people might be interested in so I looked at a couple of those. His interactions with Paulo Freire whose educational work he tried to apply to theatre.
I think I may wind up reading it more linearly which goes against his recommendation..
I'm trying to get more of his message after the local Theatre for Change really disappointed me with their lack of recognition of agency and a few other hypocrisies. Other things that I've read including Freire and a few writers like Angela Saini's comments on race etc have made me view that group very cynically. It seems like Boal's work would have a direct application if handled right and not turned into a self congratulatory management training course.
THe book is mainly about how Boal wound up applying the techniques he developed for the theatre onto the woirk of government once he wound up in an elected position. Back at a time when Brazil had become progressive and not regressed into Bolsanaroism. Boal talks about coming up with the Theatre fo teh Oppressed stuff intially at a time when the system was pretty repressive so things seem to be going around in cycles.
Anyway looking forward to reading this but do have a number of things on teh go at teh same time.
Picked this up quite cheaply as a 'Good' rated copy. It does have some pencil and highlighter underlining/highlighting but book state seems very nice otherwise.

I started teh day by reading a few chapters in Francis Davis' A History Of The Blues which has me wanting to listen to a lot of teh artists mentioned. Book is from 95 so may be missing some updates. I think it has the most recent discovery in terms of Robert Johnson photos in .
Not totally sure about attitudes to race etc but is quite interesting. & Davis isn't prejudiced per se I don't think just don't think he is exactly woke either.
Seems worth reading though.

also wound up moving onto
Joanna Russ How To Suppress Women's Writing
after a couple of hours. She is talking about women writers who had to publish anonymously to get their work out. She mentions teh differentiation in reaction to interpretation of Emily Bronte#s Wuthering Heights between it being published and it coming out a while later that the author is female. Going from it being raw and crude to something much more genteel without anything else being changed than the background information about the author's gender.
I'm quite enjoying the book and glad I got it grabbed through interlibrary loan. Would love to hear it was being read by others after me.
Must read her sci fi novel the Female Man too since I have it somewhere.

Stevo, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link

Foreverland: On the Divine Tedium of Marriage by Heather Havrilesky

Occasionally very funny memoir of marriage and parenting. I thought the chapter about suburbia was especially good. A lot of reviews seem to object to her personally (she should have made different choices, she is unlikeable, etc.), which seems to miss the point of memoir to me.

The Marriage Portrait by Maggie O'Farrell

Pretty rote historical fiction. Disappointing because I thought Hamnet was great.

American Made by Farah Stockman

Superficially this is a book length version of those diner safari articles about working class midwestern trump voters. In practice I thought it was much better than that. It's mostly not a big picture economics and politics book. It's just reporting on one town/three people.

Dawn by Octavia Butler

Wow. Extremely good. Will maybe say more when I've read the rest of the series.

Act of Oblivion by Robert Harris

If you like Robert Harris you will like this book.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

Also read two Patrick O'Brian books, as a treat

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

I managed to get the Lillith trilogy by Octavia Butler as an omnibus anthology thick tome in a charity shop a couple of years ago and read Dawn but neither of teh other 2 so far. Need to catch up with that and the other Butler I picked up since. Nearly got Parable of The Talents this week cos it's around cheaply.
Watched the first episode fo Kindred a week or so ago. Thought it was ok, so need to watch more. & have the book beside teh bed too.
Butler's good, not sure why I only discovered her recently.

Stevo, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link

Finished The Confidence Man by Herman Melville, starting Valis by Philip K. Dick.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

Finished Birnam Wood. Really let down by the ending. It felt rushed and not at all earned.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

xp Omnibus edition of the Octavia Butler trilogy including Dawn is called Lilith's Brood not just Lilith. Series is otherwise called Xenogenesis. I do need to read the rest of it and her other work.
Thinking of black sci fi authors I quite enjoyed the Flame Tree Publishing collection Black sci-fi short stories : anthology of new & classic tales which I think I mainly picked up for the Pauline Hopkins novel of One Blood being included in full . It has a few full length novels from the end fo the 19th century/beginning of 20th which is cool. I thought the imprint was a bit of a tabloid/high st set up but that had some very interesting choices in which means I might give the rest of their output another look. I think I need to read more black sci fi overall. I have Colson Whitehead's Underground Railway around too. But always need to read a lot more than the stack I already am.

Joanna Russ in her How To Suppress Women's writing keeps riffing on a number of ideas collected together as the means by which her title is done. I have the book open in front of me thought I'd repeat it.
She didn't write it
She wrote it but she shouldn't have.
She wrote it but look what she wrote about
she wrote it , but "she" isn't really an artist and "it" isn't really serious,of the right genre -i.e. really art.
She wrote it , but she wrote only one of it
She wrote it but it's only interesting/included in the canon for one limited reason.
She wrote it, but there are very few of her

Which she has been meticulously working through showing examples of where each of these have been done.
I'm really enjoying the book. I think it was republished relatively recently but the irish library system only has one copy which is kept in a basement in Rathmines when not directly requested. Not sure if it is thought to have been replaced by another more recent title or if everything is just inherently systematically sexist

Stevo, Thursday, 27 April 2023 09:01 (one year ago) link

I interrupted my reading about the French Revolution long enough to read a short palate-cleanser, Aiding and Abetting, Muriel Spark. It was quite clever, but it ended on a very silly note that felt like she just gave up on finding a better ending and tacked one on blindfolded, like pinning a tail on the donkey.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless),

Not 20 minutes ago I finished A Far Cry from Kensington.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 10:02 (one year ago) link

xp I'd like to read that, I'll see if my library has a copy. the female man is top tier imo fyi.

ledge, Thursday, 27 April 2023 10:17 (one year ago) link

I'm enjoying it. I see that there was a reprint in 2018 so 5 years ago. I don't really have a landmark for me to guage obscurity/popularity from and can't think offhand where I got turned onto it by. NOt seeing a note of where it was recommended in a bibliography or anything.
Think I may have even heard it discussed, so maybe Backlisted or Better Read Than Dead or something.

Stevo, Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link

meanwhile, I was reading the mushroom at the end of the world but my copy had mysteriously vanished :( so I've moved on to the traveller of the century by andres neuman, following a jclc post about him on the rolling lit fic thread. first thoughts: it's long. but intriguing.

ledge, Thursday, 27 April 2023 12:58 (one year ago) link

As a complete change of pace, I started Path Lit by Lightning: The Life of Jim Thorpe, by David Maraniss, which my wife gave me for Christmas. I know precious little about "the greatest athlete of all time," and am very curious. The book is a doorstop, but it has been well reviewed. We shall see.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link

J.H.Prynne - Poems. At nearly 600 pages it's a lot of poetry to go through. While many would say Prynne is opaque -- and while that is true -- there is plenty of fluency (almost O'Hara like at times), and a certain project in mapping out a very modern, inorganic world here. I don't think I've read another poet who is as committed to the inorganic matter as he is.

In the early poetry he can utter a word like "love" or "flowers". These words just don't function at all in the way they would with any other poet. It's what really got to me, at first.

In about the mid-80s things become harder to get an interpretation on, but I felt there was a lot of fluency to the language. The outputs (if you like) are strange, compelling.

I can see why there is a cult around him. For now. Maybe he is the poet we will be reading if we survive our catastrophes.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 April 2023 13:29 (eleven months ago) link

i am reading MEMO FOR NEMO by william firebrace, very kindly given me as a flatwarming present by my longtime ilx pal and birthday buddy TRACER HAND

it is an old-fashioned essay, amiably pondering jules verne and the nautilus, submarines, aquariums, underwater photography and undersea life and i am enjoying it greatly: it turns out that buying a flat near the sea in plymouth and gradually fashioning it to my needs (viz containing books) is in certain ways not unlike nemo's great project

currently i am reading about the fellow below, the swiss balloonist and bathscapher AUGUSTE PICCARD -- who hergé once saw in the street and immediately shoehorned into the tintin canon

https://i.imgur.com/n0lidXU.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/LsQzfOD.png

mark s, Saturday, 29 April 2023 10:16 (eleven months ago) link

sorry that's BATHYscapher

mark s, Saturday, 29 April 2023 10:18 (eleven months ago) link

Professor Calculus?

the pinefox, Saturday, 29 April 2023 11:23 (eleven months ago) link

J.H.Prynne - Poems. At nearly 600 pages it's a lot of poetry to go through. While many would say Prynne is opaque -- and while that is true -- there is plenty of fluency (almost O'Hara like at times), and a certain project in mapping out a very modern, inorganic world here. I don't think I've read another poet who is as committed to the inorganic matter as he is.

In the early poetry he can utter a word like "love" or "flowers". These words just don't function at all in the way they would with any other poet. It's what really got to me, at first.

In about the mid-80s things become harder to get an interpretation on, but I felt there was a lot of fluency to the language. The outputs (if you like) are strange, compelling.

I can see why there is a cult around him. For now. Maybe he is the poet we will be reading if we survive our catastrophes.


Obviously a bit of a true believer here, but one trick that I’ve discovered in accessing the work from the mid-80s onward is that Prynne is often shoving clauses and phrases into approximation with each other not so that they defy syntax, but so that the words’ exact meanings and sense-making are obscured if one isn’t actively picking at them— in essence, part of reading him (for me) is finding the phrases and bits of language that really stand out and then burrowing in. For example, in 1979’s Down Where Changed, there are numerous lines and images of strikes and shortages, which mirror the Winter of Discontent. Yesterday, in our discussion of Streak~~~Willing~~~Entourage Artesian, we started homing in on images of hunger and sabotage, and there are arguments that the book is about the Ulster agreements and the final two decades of what are called “the Troubles.” In the 70s and 80s, it was often the moments where he uses a fragment of Shakespeare, Yeats, or Wordsworth that drew me in.

We are almost finished with the Poems in the reading group, fwiw— this next week’s book is Sub Songs.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 29 April 2023 13:53 (eleven months ago) link

In the meantime, the semester is over and when I am not grading, I’m catching up on the piles that have accumulated— today I’m reading Argentine poet Maria Negroni’s Exilium, an interesting book regarding myth, the years of dictatorship, exile from language, and (seemingly) cycles of birth/re-birth. Evocative and strange work, center-aligned, with a good translation.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 29 April 2023 14:00 (eleven months ago) link

xyzzzz, I forgot to add— glad yr finding something in Prynne’s work!

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 29 April 2023 14:01 (eleven months ago) link

Professor Calculus?

― the pinefox, Saturday, 29 April 2023 12:23 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

the same! or tryphon tournesol as he is known in the original belgian

apparently the actual real piccard was a very tall and thin long-necked man; hergé felt this a bodyshape that did not suit his favoured cartoon dimensions, so he made calculus a "mini-piccard"

mark s, Saturday, 29 April 2023 14:02 (eleven months ago) link

that is quite delightful

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 April 2023 14:47 (eleven months ago) link

last month was all illegitimacy, Scarlet Letter, Ruth, An Eye For An Eye.

next month will be modern versions of Greek myths (and maybe some actual ovid / euripides for background), starting with a Stone Blind

koogs, Saturday, 29 April 2023 17:26 (eleven months ago) link

While continuing with self-deprecating, winking, swaggering Bono I've also started a short novel I've meant to read for years: Keith Waterhouse's first (?) novel THERE IS A HAPPY LAND, about childhood.

the pinefox, Saturday, 29 April 2023 17:32 (eleven months ago) link

This week I reread True Grit by Charles Portis … marvel at his prose always, and was so swept up in the story i finished in a day or two. Love the drama of the last couple of chapters, the showdown, the pit, the skeleton (!) the snakes (!) … like a serialized drama where it all unfurls so excitingly.

Also revisited Ask The Dust by John Fante
Back in the day i loved this as a wide-eyed naive uni student dazzled by writerliness but two decades def blurred my memory of the misogyny & violence & racial slurs that make up a lot of the central narrative. Jesus. He writes beautifully and in its weird intensely Catholic way I do like the novel but damn this is a hard one to come to grips with as a fully -formed adult.

It’s not even an “oh the times” argument, it’s like he was working out old personal shit on paper & is just like, a story mm yes its a story

lot of that in literature I know
but it’s one that definitely has hung around with me long after putting it down.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 April 2023 17:54 (eleven months ago) link

What's another good Portis? I loved True Grit, although sometimes it felt a bit... cute? I can see why it appealed to the Coens.

I've just started "Vet's Daughter" by Barbara Comyns, which is sublimely miserable so far. It's so vivid and atmospheric, in so few words, without seeming telegraphed. Reminds me a little of... Roald Dahl? Like Dahl if he took abusers more seriously.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 29 April 2023 22:26 (eleven months ago) link

Dog of the South is my fave Portis

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 April 2023 22:30 (eleven months ago) link

^this is the justly celebrated canonical favorite

The Lubitsch Touchscreen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 April 2023 23:21 (eleven months ago) link

you really can’t go wrong w him imo
i need to read gringos, that’s the only one of his i haven’t read

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 April 2023 23:59 (eleven months ago) link


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