idk -- i didn't hate it, but also it was pretty lame. the shaw arc could not possibly have been more predictable. jack magically absconding with a shuttle, and jack *wanting* to find the borg, and jack magically *finding* the borg was all absurd. if only all those millions of people assimilated by the borg had had a kickass dad!
appreciate the confirmation that it literally takes just seven people -- or merely one, if it's bev -- to run a starship
as for the mid-credits scene -- i would totally watch seven running a ship. i can vaguely envision being interested in Q despite them having done nothing good with him in 30 years. could not give less of a shit about jack
― mookieproof, Friday, 21 April 2023 05:31 (one year ago) link
anything stemming from this absolutely requires worf tho
― mookieproof, Friday, 21 April 2023 05:33 (one year ago) link
zen worf is a gift
― mookieproof, Friday, 21 April 2023 05:38 (one year ago) link
i demand Captain Seven spinoff immediately (plz kill off Jack by ep 2)
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 April 2023 05:56 (one year ago) link
i mean really, jack unassimilating because he loves his mom, or because he's hot for geordi's pilot daughter, or because the showrunners thought him charismatic doesn't make much sense
― mookieproof, Friday, 21 April 2023 06:14 (one year ago) link
so Agnes and her posse were too busy guarding the mystery transwarp conduit wherever (which is not the conduit seen in this season) to show up and help or...
there's not a lot of between season continuity going on here
― mh, Friday, 21 April 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link
There's not even scene-to-scene continuity going on -- didn't Worf just take two full on space laser body blasts? and there's not even an insert of Riker quipping, "shake it off, Worf, it's just a flesh wound" to bridge the fact that he seems perfectly fine 10 seconds later.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 21 April 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
Does the Picard golem have a usborg port in his neck? Or was it there from his prior assimilation? I guess all that cyberpunk armor is just for show.
― formerly abanana (dat), Friday, 21 April 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link
Yeah, Borg stories hopefully are put to bed now because this, like every story following "I, Borg," has made them such stock villains that have almost none of their original alienness -- how banal it was that Queenie (and Vadic) were simply motivated by revenge.
Health and Wellness Worf is still a treasure. Philip, I kind of wonder if Klingon redundant physiology explains why he was able to shake off the phaser blasts.
I did completely hate Will's decision to keep Picard company, dressed up as loyalty but really just a cheap way of amplifying the stakes, in a way that doesn't make sense. He and Troi still have a daughter, or did she get conveniently forgotten?!
― Sid Bream My Baby (Leee), Saturday, 22 April 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
But I did like:
The shot of the nebula that's a straight homage to TNG's opening creditsRiker's "I miss that voice."Poker game at the end -- stud, rotating aerial shot, etc.
― Sid Bream My Baby (Leee), Saturday, 22 April 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link
I enjoyed the last ep overall as a nicely final-feeling bit of action TV with lots of fanservice. But.
As others already said, wither Jurati? What was the point of her borgifying if they just dropped that story?
If Q is able to recombobulate or whatever explanation befits, he could have done the decent thing and stepped in and stopped the borg thing. Just rude.
Cannot get past Jack and Picard being able to just rip out their borg cabling. ESPECIALLY since the queen specifically said, several minutes earlier, that doing so would destroy their minds. What is the POINT of assimilation if you can fight it that casually. And yeah did Picard just jam the port into his skin? Huh?
On a related note Worf seemed to cope with being shot twice right in the arm/shoulder by a powerful weapon thats been shown to kill people instantly on many occasions. He didnt even seem hurt. OK whatever. I did like the sword/phaser joke though.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link
i saw someone suggest that worf could survive such things because of his redundant klingon organs . . . which is trying *really* hard
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link
the redlettermedia video pointed out that the last time elron was seen, he was serving on the excelsior. the ending that character deserved.
― formerly abanana (dat), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 01:43 (one year ago) link
I suppose this is where I show my old age because the Treaty of Algernon is complete bullshit and should never have been signed with that provision intact. Section 31 sucks for not bothering to reverse-engineer cloaking tech anyway and Star Fleet sucks for not demanding that Section 31 does - even if it means installing an "in case of emergency, invoke Section 31" button on every NCC-* bridge (surprise, by doing so - you're now a Section 31 ship!) That alone would be a more interesting plot than - oh no, another page or two of script burned on the fucking cloaking device instead of something interesting.
I'm annoyed with how this all wrapped up because the first half was just good enough to encourage my own runaway imagination to expect something better than another Borg story (story made even lazier because now there's a kid). The fact that we're all talking about better spin-off fantasy shows whether it's Star Trek: Enterprise-G with Captain Seven or Star Trek: Kung Fu with Worf just magnifies how inert Picard is - even with all the end of the world stuff going on outside the viewscreen, the show (and him) seem strangely reactive. This isn't the first time this has happened with Star Trek or any other heritage IP bogged down by the weight of its own nostalgia. See also: the Obi-Wan series, most dalek episodes of nuWho.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 April 2023 05:41 (one year ago) link
There’s a single line in the RLM vid where Mike inadvertently summaries a lot of the modern ST content as missing the point with the writers/showrunners wanting more grimdark as presumably more real/relevant/realistic: “here! Here’s a sweet to wade thru!” rather any sort of utopian idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g63G1l41Wp8
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 28 April 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link
Dammit. “Here’s a SEWER to wade thru”
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 28 April 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link
I gave up on this show but wife has been rewatching it and I'll say this much: great theme song.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 5 May 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link
Captain Shaw memes are still the best:
https://i.ibb.co/LYpT7nd/FB-IMG-1678630684510.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 9 July 2023 11:23 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Z0QpfNj.jpeg
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 9 July 2023 11:27 (one year ago) link
https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-picard-movie-patrick-stewart-paramount-2024-1851144813
― Captain Sisko and Ebert (Leee), Friday, 5 January 2024 21:32 (eleven months ago) link
"the actor, Patrick", said Patrick Stewart
― adam t. (abanana), Saturday, 6 January 2024 18:06 (eleven months ago) link
I remember that Stewart went through a "refers to self in third person" phase in the late 90s or early 00s, maybe this was a deeply buried tic that resurfaced.
― Captain Sisko and Ebert (Leee), Saturday, 6 January 2024 19:38 (eleven months ago) link
If you have 4 hours and hate in your heart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLHKdn0JTY
― Joanna Neu!some (Leee), Sunday, 25 August 2024 02:15 (three months ago) link
i am willing to stipulate
― mookieproof, Sunday, 25 August 2024 02:59 (three months ago) link
So clearly we just need to base a new series on this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C_Ew-zPPzWteSb3SG3u-Ji37XknckfiPn7qdYs0/
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 August 2024 03:07 (three months ago) link
Unwilling to watch either Picard or a 4-hour Youtube video, Star Trek remains unruined.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 25 August 2024 03:46 (three months ago) link
tl;dr: her line is "ffs it's a utopia not a dystopia, time for alex kurtzman to section 31 himself"
― mark s, Sunday, 25 August 2024 10:52 (three months ago) link
Ugh Trek gatekeepers are almost as bad as Starwars ones are. I'm not watching that. Picard was fine, rly my only gripe was the illogic of killing data/not killing picard for basically the same reason/killing off Q who's meant to be omnimpotent or immortal or whatever.
But "waahhhhh Trek cannot be grim, its a nice show with nice people and no bad guys or war or gritty reality" copium can feck off.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 26 August 2024 01:31 (three months ago) link
Is there a notable increase in quality from S2 to S3 or were people just saying that because all the old friends were back?
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 26 August 2024 07:34 (three months ago) link
Bit of both, probly.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 August 2024 01:53 (three months ago) link
If you'd simply watched the 4-hour video you'd know that the season 2 production was a nightmare, with a COVID-shortened shoot that required them splitting the crew while prepping season 3 stuff. But agreed, season 3 had its moments, which were purely because of the fan service.
(Also science lady isn't really being a gate keeper, because IMO her biggest point was that the writing was uniformly abysmal and dumb.)
― Joanna Neu!some (Leee), Tuesday, 27 August 2024 02:34 (three months ago) link
strange new worlds has been grim as hell (i mean, apart from the musical episode)
but mainly it has been good while picard has been bad
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 03:57 (three months ago) link
I should clarify - especially on re-reading my own past comments haha - there were deffo some large swathes of Picard that blew. TOo much angst.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 22:48 (three months ago) link