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love garth

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:35 (one year ago) link

One of my many terrible ideas is a Halloween costume with black helmet, luxurious beard, and a chest=mounted keyboard = Garth Vader

Literally no one would get it and I would slink home in richly deserved shame

I have a lot of extremely bad ideas, if you want more, like & subscribe

when you wish upon a tsar (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link

lol everyone that would get the joke is right here

that's not my post, Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link

Yep. Which is why I don't leave.

when you wish upon a tsar (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link

yet another band member in the galaxy far far away

It's #NationalLookAlikeDay! 🎉 Many of you have mentioned the striking resemblance between #PedroPascal and our very own Rick Danko – we couldn't agree more! 😄 Who's your celebrity doppelgĂ€nger?

Photo of Rick by @ElliottLandy pic.twitter.com/g6dubn1V23

— The Band (@TheBandOfficial) April 20, 2023

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Thursday, 20 April 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link

Listened to big pink like 5 times so far this week

ian, Thursday, 20 April 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

Crazy Pedro followed me
And he caught me in the hay
I am not a fungal zombie
But he shot me anyway

when you wish upon a tsar (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 April 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link

totally in love with the garth synth sound on a couple of '76 shows i've been checking out lately. been so long since i've seen it that i can't remember if he was playing synthesizer on the last waltz as well?

no lime tangier, Friday, 21 April 2023 07:53 (one year ago) link

Seems like xpost Garth Vader, as described, could look so cool that few would feel like they needed the origin story to enjoy thee vision before them.

dow, Friday, 21 April 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

xps Slightly off-topic, but I always thought Chris Kattan of all people was a dead ringer for Jaco Pastorius.

birdistheword, Friday, 21 April 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Some early indications that Robbie Robertson may have gone on to the Last Waltz in the sky ...

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 19:25 (eight months ago) link

Or maybe not?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 19:32 (eight months ago) link

Just found this - is he playing the bronzed guitar from the Last Waltz?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2SfFQQ81cs

birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 19:35 (eight months ago) link

wait what Josh??

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 19:40 (eight months ago) link

Tributes rolling in

RIP Robbie Robertson - you were easily the worst member of The Band. You were lucky enough to springboard off the backs of 4 other gentleman who each possessed the grace, talent and artistry that you lacked.

— JEHawks (@jehawks) August 9, 2023

hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 19:44 (eight months ago) link

Shit, was hoping it was a false alarm.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 19:45 (eight months ago) link

rip robbie, this sucks

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 19:59 (eight months ago) link

RIP

Even if he never wrote a single song he'd be an all-timer for some of the weird guitar he provided on Dylan's material in 65-67.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:02 (eight months ago) link

Worst member of the Band is a subjective call, but no-one has ever denied that he wrote those songs. Helm just wanted the royalties to be shared around.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:03 (eight months ago) link

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I mean, JRR did write some unbelievably classic songs, so I'm not 100% sure I agree with that assessment. But he was easily the most grating of the 5 and had a frequently embarrassing solo career.

RIP.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:03 (eight months ago) link

Oldest guy in the band is the only one left

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:06 (eight months ago) link

What a bummer, RIP Robbie.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:09 (eight months ago) link

Oldest guy in the band is the only one left

Like Can and the Bee Gees.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:09 (eight months ago) link

Ringo will outlive Paul.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:09 (eight months ago) link

I mean, JRR did write some unbelievably classic songs, so I'm not 100% sure I agree with that assessment. But he was easily the most grating of the 5 and had a frequently embarrassing solo career.

He played amazing guitar on that tour, but true.

Worst member of the Band is a subjective call, but no-one has ever denied that he wrote those songs. Helm just wanted the royalties to be shared around.

Apparently they were per Jonathan Taplin, but it's a little complicated:

In his memoir, Levon was very critical of The Last Waltz, down to saying Robertson was singing into a dead mic. How do you respond to that?

Robbie listened to Dylan, who said songwriting is like a bond — it keeps paying you money. And by the third album, Stage Fright, Robbie was doing it all. He was getting up at 9 a.m. and going into his studio at the piano or the guitar and writing songs because he needed 11 or 12 songs to make an album. And nobody was saying, “I want some of that song.”

So this is all revisionist history for people to say, “Levon should have publishing rights on all that music because he helped make the songs in the studio.” Not true. Robbie brought in the songs fully baked. Did Levon change the beat? Fine. But that’s not a songwriting credit. So by 2001, 2002, when Levon got sick and Napster eliminated royalty income from the old catalog, Levon was pissed because Robbie had money and he didn’t. And he looked back and thought the whole thing was a big scam, including The Last Waltz.

Look, Levon got movie jobs off The Last Waltz too. Phil Kaufman told me he saw Levon telling those stories and thought he could be an actor, so Levon was in The Right Stuff. So I don’t have any tolerance for people who say Robbie’s a thief or something like that. It’s just not right.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:10 (eight months ago) link

*true on both counts.

(also accidentally pasted in another line, the one that says "in his memoir, Levon...")

birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:12 (eight months ago) link

Who embarrassed themselves more, Robbie after the Band or the Band after Robbie?

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:13 (eight months ago) link

Agh, I see what happened - I pasted in the wrong line. I meant to include this at the beginning of the quoted section:

Here’s the deal. If you were a musician in 1969, it would not be obvious to you that the only people who are going to make money in 2001 would be songwriters. If you look at the royalty account for the Band — how much per album was going to the Band, split evenly, and how much per album was going to the songwriters — the royalties for the Band were three and a half times as much as the songwriters’.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:13 (eight months ago) link

And by the third album, Stage Fright, Robbie was doing it all. He was getting up at 9 a.m. and going into his studio at the piano or the guitar and writing songs because he needed 11 or 12 songs to make an album. And nobody was saying, “I want some of that song.”

... because they were all nodding out on heroin.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:14 (eight months ago) link

during the trip hop era, this collab with howie b was a massive late night fave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUJ0kprtBmE

mark e, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:15 (eight months ago) link

The two songs Manuel co-wrote on Stage Fright are the best two on the record...but he never worked up another song for the next 16 years of his life.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:15 (eight months ago) link

listen i love the other guys in the band and robbie could be a dickhead but c'mon he was the main force behind their career it's not even a question

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:27 (eight months ago) link

"acadian driftwood" is so beautiful :(

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:27 (eight months ago) link

i love danko and manuel to death but those two guys were frequently basket cases that couldn't have done a thing on their own, garth was the best musician of them but would have probably been teaching piano lessons in canada without robbie's drive...levon definitely probably would have been in ace drummer in some band or another but robbie was the guy who made it happen

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:30 (eight months ago) link

just eats clapton's fuckin lunch on that i love it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:31 (eight months ago) link

robbie was the guy who made it happen

Sure, but as the other members checked out, even the songwriting suffered (to say nothing of the performances).

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:34 (eight months ago) link

Ums otm.

I am a decently ardent fan of Levon Helm, but I tired of hearing him complain about Robbie Robertson.

They were both essential but in different ways, can we just embrace that?

I have similar feelz about Don Felder. Dude, if you could have done it all yourself, then you fucking should have. You had chances.

Maybe Robbie couldn't sing very well... by which I mean maybe he couldn't sing as well as several of the best singers in the world at that time, who happened to be in his own fucking band, and in their immediate circle.

You know what? I can't sing as well as Emmylou Harris either. Nor can I write a song on Robertson's level.

That said, I am glad I am not going out to play tonight.

Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:35 (eight months ago) link

Sure, but as the other members checked out, even the songwriting suffered (to say nothing of the performances).

― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, August 9, 2023 3:34 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i don't think they get as far as doing the first two records without robbie

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:36 (eight months ago) link

even the S/T Robbie is credited on every song for songwriting with 3 cowrites w/manuel and one with levon, in comparison with big pink where he has 4 solo credits and that's it (they were doing dylan material obv too then)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:40 (eight months ago) link

Again, upper miss otm. Creative engines exist, and they exist for a reason. Geniuses and singular talents sometimes just fritter away in their corners. Sometimes the workhorse who pulls the cart is a type of hero/ine.

Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:41 (eight months ago) link

Robertson went to work. Even with coke nose he had discipline. The guy who shows up gets the credit.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:41 (eight months ago) link

Apologies for cliché recycling but there is that moment in The Last Waltz where Clapton's guitar strap comes undone, and Robertson just effortlessly covers. As Alfred says: he went to work.

Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:46 (eight months ago) link

I'm sure he went to work on his solo albums too, but it wasn't sufficient!

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:50 (eight months ago) link

Well, there's the argument for surrounding yourself with simpatico musicians with whom you have chemistry.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:52 (eight months ago) link

I mean, of all bands, the Band is probably one of the most dependent on a magical group chemistry

also are we starting to disqualify great producer/songwriters who wrote for much better singers?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:55 (eight months ago) link


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