Things you were shockingly old when you learned

if i'm feeling scrungy i sometimes do a baking soda & limon juice face scrub and henceforth i will be so so so careful to stay out of the sun after

thank you Josh you might have saved me from turning into a blister

John Lydon's recently deceased wife was a German heiress who inherited $180 million on her father's death.

Which does make you wonder why John felt the need to do butter adverts.

The great rocknroll swindle innit

think a lot of his motivation boils down to "what will make people mad"

John Lydon once said he cared
But he never really gave a fuck

xp 100%

I did a triple take on the "she was Ari Up's mother" reports, like, "wait they're contemporaries, how can that be?" but then read more detailed accounts to learn she was 14 yrs older than John.

Yeah and it helps that Ari was only 14 when she was in the Slits. It boggles the mind now to think her mother was perfectly ok with her doing all the shit she did at that age, but rich people gonna rich I guess.

Viv Albertine's autobio gave me the impression Ari was just left to do what the fck she wanted and her behaviour in any modern context would have had her medicated at the VERY least if not institutionalised.

prob true, and thankfully that didn't happen. RIP the 70s I guess...

Almost everything about Nora's life was surprising.

I've just learned that Americans call coriander cilantro. I knew about arugula being rocket, but somehow cilantro escaped me all these years.

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The most confusing one is "public school"

in the US it means the opposite of what it means in the UK

Yes, in the US public schools are ones that are open to the public, free for all to attend who live in their districts, as opposed to private schools, for which one must pay to attend. That makes sense to me.

Yes, the brits are wrong on this one.

People do say private school here too. Public school tends to be reserved for a subset of them that are old and prestigious (Eton, Harrow etc). But yes, much better to call them all private schools. I think the term dates back to when the alternative to not going to school was being privately tutored at home!

you could also see it as a reminder that if you want to participate in public life in the UK you'd better have gone to Eton or Harrow

Until NV posted the fees for The Leys School on the 6Music thread, I don't think I realised just how expensive a public school education was these days. Fucking hell.

even the cost of building a gallows has skyrocketed

Yeah and it helps that Ari was only 14 when she was in the Slits.

OK that I did not know tho I guess we are talking their year of formation?

Born Jan. 1962.

Partly as a result of this thread I've been listening the Slits lately and, boy, does Bjork owe a lot to Ari Up.

This has the slightly dubious distinction of being the first record I ever disliked. I barely knew about records at all, I was four and three quarters: so my cynicism started early, if you like. This one was inescapable – number one for nine weeks, two million sold, flattening the opposition through Christmas ’77 and then on into ’78. I didn’t know what number ones were but I guess I just got bored of “Mull” being around, its comforting lullaby sway pushing into even our pop-free household*. I remember not being able to figure out what a Mull was, or a Kintyre: I’d been reading the Hobbit, and the Narnia books, so I reckoned it was an honorific, like King, or Tarkaan. And this dark haired guy singing it, he’d be the Mull, then?

TIL Tom Ewing was a reading prodigy

The Georgie Fame/ Matt Bianco hit, "Yeh Yeh", was co-written by Pat Patrick of Sun Ra's Arkestra.

I never knew that, I never knew that!
I never knew that, I never knew that!

That Bonnie Bedelia is the Culkin brothers' aunt.

The blonde woman on the cover of "Led Zeppelin II" is Delphine Seyrig.

!

The brown shirts taht gave the right wing thugs attached to the Nazi party their name were ones initially made for the Schutztruppe the foreign legion manhandling natives in South West Africa. They had been stranded in Germany and not shipped to the troops concerned because of trouble with shipping during the First World War, Subsequently had never been worn and were acquired from a government contact of the early party.

The blonde woman on the cover of "Led Zeppelin II" is Delphine Seyrig

I think I had always assumed it was Lucille Ball, which evidently is a very common misapprehension. But many sources claim that it's Glynis Johns, as a play on Glyn Johns, the engineer. Which would make sense except it was his brother Andy Johns who worked on LZII, not Glyn, who had worked on the first Zep album. Plus the blonde woman doesn't look anything like Glynis Johns (to me) - much more like Delphine Seyrig.

ugh sorry for formatting mistake

(xp) It's apparently taken from the film, "Mr. Freedom".

https://kinoimages.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/12_delphine-seyrig-in-mr-freedom-william-klein-1969.jpg

... though obviously not that particular image.

For the past 45 years, I've thought it was Lucille Ball. I am shockingly old to have learned different.

TIL that there's a woman on the cover of Led Zeppelin II! (When I first encountered the album as a kid, I focused on the four members of LZ and didn't pay any attention at all to the other people.)

Here is the album cover side by side with the photo from which it was taken

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b0T05NgBjPc/U6sIBxegFDI/AAAAAAAAC4Q/4bjEO9o9WjY/s1600/Led+Zeppelin+II+Album+Cover+1969.jpg

Who are the other people on the cover I wonder?

Thats the Red Baron sat in the cockpit of the plane iirc xp

I always thought it was Led Zep hanging with some Hells Angels

(xp) Always thought it was Desi Arnaz.

I think they mostly just added facial hair and sunglasses to the other four.

It's Christopher Lee, James Coburn and Michael Parkinson

first time i saw it as a kid (on my stepmother's 8-track!) i assumed everyone on the cover was in the group, and i was like dang that is one big, tough-looking band

I definitely never realized that their faces were just pasted in there

same

also xxp that is amazing, ty

I think the first physical LZ release I saw was also an 8-track, circa 1975

LZII was the second album of theirs I bought (after HoTH). The label on side 1 was off-center, so the end of "Thank You" had an added "tsss . . . tsss . . . tsss." I can still hear it, even in digital format.

It's Christopher Lee, James Coburn and Michael Parkinson

Joe Cocker sang the co-lead on "Up Where We Belong"

The Louvin Brothers and John D. Loudermilk were cousins (the Louvins' real name was Loudermilk).