Rolling Interminable 6Music Daytime Canon

The anti-Zane Lowe

xp this was kind of John Peel's style? I mean, not really, because he was obviously enthusiastic about what he played, but he had that ironic, deflating tone, can't imagine him earnestly enthusing about his swept away by music, or at least only in an arch, indirect way.

I remember watching repeats of Revolver when I was a teenager, and I liked the way Peter Cook would slag off the music (which he genuinely disliked, apparently), I think DJs who openly loathe the records they're playing is the way to go.

The delating style was used by the dire Keaveney, and I think by Ravenscroft who plays on how monotone his voice is.

I think it's a bit "I'm just swept away by all of this wonderful music" which is admirable but starts to grate after a while, same deal but even more so with Mary Anne Hobbs.

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some of the presenters on radio 3's 'eclectic' shows do something like this as well, and it seems to be creeping into the straight classical stuff as well, it annoys me but in a way where I worry that maybe I'm the one with the problem, particularly because it mainly seems to be women who adopt this style. But why are they trying so hard to convince me that they really love this music? It feels like someone trying to sell you something. I want the music to be introduced by a stern, formal academic type ideally.

stuart maconie does introduce music as if it were an open university module, but it's absolutely a bit

affecting indifference to downplay one's emotional connection to music def a traditionally male strategy yes. I do find breathless enthusiasm makes me cringe often but that's my problem. there's space for both I guess.

I don't think this is enthusiasm vs non-enthusiasm.

Laverne is enthusiastic and I don't mind her. Charles is enthusiastic about his soul and funk and that seems natural.

I just think it's particular tones. I think Alba was exactly right in saying that Hobbs sounds phoney even though she might not even be phoney.

Stuart Maconie: C or D?

So, did you ever like him? Still like him? Never liked him? Is there anyone else who's similarly annoying?

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I never heard of that son of a bitch!
― Mike Hanle y, Thursday, July 5, 2001

Good times.

are there any prominent male DJs who do the Mary Anne Hobbes awed wonder thing? Zane Lowe was mentioned above, and was relentlessly positive, but as far as I remember he didn't have the breathy wonder thing, he was too bouncy and yappy, like a hype-man or youtube vlogger. Not a DJ, but I guess this is Brian Cox's style in his documentaries?

the only time I find this style of presenting tolerable is when Mary Anne Hobbs does it, but I think that's mainly because of nostalgia

Hobbs’s enthusiasm strikes me as genuine (and infectious) but she does have an odd way of speaking, she sounds like she is constantly smiling
Keaveney is the nadir of a strategy I think of as “deliberate partridge” where you play up the banality of your chat. With afternoon djs this often goes along with spending 10-15 minutes on regular segments where the main joke is meant to be that the segments are bad. The problem is a) these ppl are never funny and b) irony is a useful tool for a skilled presenter but a disastrous shield for a bad one

Jack Saunders (whose name I had to Google) does the Mary Anne Hobbs thing. I only know him from presenting Glastonbury, never heard him anywhere else, but he's intolerable.

Good post from wins, agree about both Hobbs' permanent smile and Keaveney's way of being bad.

Hobbs has a maddening habit of using the wrong words too, she said something was "extrapolated" from an album yesterday when I think she meant "extracted"

(I'm clearly revealing the fact I listen to 6Music far too much, as well as being a terrible pedant)

I don't mind the enthusiasm when it's about the music, it's more when it's about 'my wonderful life' doing club shows and meeting "you lot" and "phone me about your awesome weekend" stuff.

You've just reminded me of the 10 worst words in the English language: "Amy Lamé is sitting in for Cerys Matthews this week"

Amusing !!

x-posts. I recall Peel playing the Echo and the Bunnymen version of "People Are Strange" and saying something like "That's a very collectable record. In fact, it's going straight to the second-hand record shop."

Just heard Cerys Matthews on radio. While not so keen on her, I can see how the eclectic roots music - blues, Trinidad folk, Cuban, Irish - is valued by listeners.

Stew's take

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/16/britain-is-a-dying-nation-in-need-of-new-curators

I quite like Lee's article, and it's nice to see public support for some good things, but I don't think his description of 6music or the role of those particular programmes is especially accurate.

cleeve hill represent

Jack Saunders' 'Glasto' presenting outfit was really something
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWHpH10UUAIsSlP.jpg

oh that guy

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Yeah, that's the guy. Completely vile. He's not yet on 6music, to be fair, but as the host of "Radio 1's Indie Show", he'll be heading that way in the end.

Oh shit, I went to that school!

Ok, so you're presenting Glastonbury soon?

(gotta love threads you can find by searching for a single word, as long as you know that word...)

New to the playlist 🔁 Here's what we will be giving a spin this week, with new music from...

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— BBC Radio 6 Music (@BBC6Music) June 19, 2023

Nitin Sawnhey hacking the playlist by working with that one bloke

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0ftp7pt

The Rise and Fall of Britpop

Jo Whiley and Steve Lamacq document the rise and fall of Britpop. Celebrating Blur, Oasis, Pulp and more with fresh interviews and unheard personal archive.

yeah, listened to it. it is exactly what you would expect.

christ

Trenchant

This analogy from Steve Lamacq on Blur vs Oasis is 🤯

Listen to The Rise and Fall of Britpop now on @BBCSounds https://t.co/nSVCi3wavk pic.twitter.com/8xn5Kt3Kro

— BBC Radio 6 Music (@BBC6Music) July 13, 2023

Thank god for that

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/steve-lamacq-bbc-6-music-quit-b2403761.html

Best news I've read all week (probably). The one current 6 Music show above all others that I absolutely cannot bear listening to.

I wonder how his family feel about it

I like Huw Stephens!

"Today is Steve (Lamacq)'s final daily weekday programme after 20 years on 6 Music."

Only just discovered that 6 Music has been scrobbling to last.fm since 2004. Kind of great to see what their all-time most played tracks are etc.

https://www.last.fm/user/bbc6music

Can also see every bloody instance of them playing Debaser

https://www.last.fm/user/bbc6music/library/music/Pixies/_/Debaser?date_preset=ALL

one woman, no black artists in the top 20 (stevie wonder at 21)

i'm seeing css, pixies, elastica, portishead in the top 10 of "all time", all of which are female fronted. and curtis mayfield at number 4.

1 Let's Make Love And Listen To Death From Above
CSS

2 Spinning Rock Boogie
Hank C. Burnette

3 Love Will Tear Us Apart
Joy Division

4 Move On Up
Curtis Mayfield

5 Waking Up
Elastica

6 Debaser
Pixies

7 A-Punk
Vampire Weekend

8 Time to Pretend
MGMT

9 Kids
MGMT

10 Glory Box
Portishead

Spinning Rock Boogie seems like a bit of an outlier. Is that used on a feature or something?

Apparently Steve Lamacq's play-out tune

https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb6music/NF14107994?thread=7347589

i'm seeing css, pixies, elastica, portishead in the top 10 of "all time", 

I was looking at artists, not artists of top tracks.

I looked at the last four years in case they got more woke - yeah it's a bit better.