New Order's worst song wins award

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You gotta give him credit for an independent (indie?) opinion though!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

NO post-95 is better on average than pre-95

Well, I'd say that the two last albums are better than Republic and Lowlife, on a par with Brotherhood, PC&L and Movement, and below Technique. Hence, the average

Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"All Day Long" or half of Movement.

Wow, are half the posters on crack or what?

Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Certainly.

Steve Mack from That Petrol Emotion has been seen a punk gigs lately in my town. That makes me happy for some reason.

Ya gotta agitate, educate, organize (Bimble...), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:13 (eighteen years ago) link

New Order singles collection CD, the 7" one, can be obtained in the HMV 2 for £12 offer. The problem is finding the other half of the 2.

Those new 12" with remixes on are on 3 for £10 offer. Not a huge saving, but worth it if you want the lot, I suppose.

This is my helpful shopping tip for the day.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 13 March 2006 09:02 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

"State of the Nation" and the "Sub-Culture" remix are not even close to being the worst New Order songs but this journo is clearly well-versed in popular journalistic opinion of the band that always rates them as such!

Take those two out and throw in any of the tracks from the 'Lost Sirens' collection.

yesca, Sunday, 20 August 2017 03:39 (six years ago) link

Yeah, 'World in Motion' is pretty dreadful. It definitely deserves a spot on that list.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Sunday, 20 August 2017 03:51 (six years ago) link

'World in Motion' has always and will always continue to rule. Sorry, snobs.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 20 August 2017 07:59 (six years ago) link

World in Motion is a complete joy, especially the rap.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 20 August 2017 08:13 (six years ago) link

Yes

Mark G, Sunday, 20 August 2017 08:43 (six years ago) link

TS: A-side rap vs B-side rap

https://youtu.be/7N4mIa4NNHk?t=3m13s

nashwan, Sunday, 20 August 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

"World in Motion" is marvelous.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link

I'm an American who hates sports so... "World in Motion" is definitely in the top ten worst for me. It's hard to describe how let down I felt the first time I put that 12" on.

yesca, Sunday, 20 August 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link

I'm an American who hates sports.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

I mean I've read a lot of impassioned articles about how important this song was and how it was some turning point for the perception of the band. For myself, New Order's combination of inventiveness and portentousness up to that point clouded some of the goofiness that was happening in the lyrics department (which in retrospect should have been obvious to me with songs like "Every Little Counts") and hearing this made them suddenly sound like any other terrible top ten UK pop thing. It was the first chink in the armor before we get to other super lazy pop stuff like "World" all the way through "Superheated". For some I get that this was a celebration of the pop tendencies that were always there but for me this was the beginning of the band getting knocked down from heaven and become just mere mortals. :)

yesca, Sunday, 20 August 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link

goddamn pop music

Neves Say Neves Again (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 August 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

uh, the inventiveness and portentousness (I'm not sure what this means but anwyway) required the goofy lyrics!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

uh, the inventiveness and portentousness (I'm not sure what this means but anwyway) required the goofy lyrics!

uh, why?

yesca, Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

A large part of New Order's greatness is their insouciance. What better way to demarcate what they once were as Joy Division than to write songs with life/knife rhymes?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

obv your New Order isn't mine. But I say you're misreading the history of a band who wrote "You caught me at a bad time/So why don't you piss off?" and recorded disco, not a genre known for its portent.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

I don't think was by design. That's by the limitations of the artist. :)

There's been several interviews with Saville where he summarizes things quite nicely. He references the NYT article about NO titled 'How Cool is Coldness?', waxes on about the delta between how they were presented and who they actually are, and how 'World in Motion' finally changed that perspective for some.

Anyhow, off topic. Back to worst NO songs!

yesca, Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

World in Motion originated from an instrumental Steve and Gillian wrote. The band were not working together at the time. They did it for the money and it required little effort. I just don't even consider this an actual single.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 20 August 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

World in Motion originated from an instrumental Steve and Gillian wrote. The band were not working together at the time. They did it for the money and it required little effort. I just don't even consider this an actual single.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 20 August 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

That was a remix.

Mark G, Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

The Making Out mix? I know there were a few around 89-90 that were done for TV by S&G and I'm pretty sure WiM was based on one of those songs.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 20 August 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

This is where I say I was wrong that one time eleven years ago.

Ned Trifle X, Sunday, 20 August 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

"State of the Nation" and especially "Sub-Culture (remix)" are two of their BEST songs. I love "World in Motion" as well, but I agree it could be an Other Two single - not a bad thing.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 21 August 2017 06:21 (six years ago) link


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