Acts whose entire album output has always been on the decline, with no exception

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wrong on Pet Shop Boys! and 1916 is a pretty kickass latter-day Motorhead album.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Pretenders > Pretenders II > Learning to Crawl > Get Close. Further distinctions not cost effective.

brianiac (briania), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Disagree w dom's eminem sentiment above, i think. Well, particularly if you include "Infinite" among his albums, but even then i like both MMLP and the one after it more than slim shady lp.

This is a good thread. I'm w/ pappawheelie re: run dmc's 4th album, "beats to the rhyme" is probably my favorite rdmc track.

deej., Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Boston, they just couldn't follow the success of Smells Like Teen Spirit.

rat, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Portishead

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

the replacements came dangerously close to fitting this model. and there's probably 1 or 2 days out of any given week when i could convincingly make the argument.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Cover Girls
Expose'
Pajama Party
Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam
Debbie Gibson
Tiffany

not Company B, though - their second album is a true classic!

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

guns n' roses

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

No way - Spaghetti Incident>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>both Use Yr Illusions

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link

fIREHOSE

john'n'chicago, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

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(wait, i forgot that gnr pre-appetite thing, which i guess would disqualify them if it counts.)

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

also Appetite for Destuction >>> Live @#$% Like a Suicide, but maybe that doesn't count

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

(xp obv)

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Boston, they just couldn't follow the success of Smells Like Teen Spirit.

No wonder. How could they possibly expect to get away with ripping off Nirvana like that?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

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i'm fascinated that spaghetti incident trumps use yr illusions by about 50 arrows, but appetite trumps @#$% by only three arrows!

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

hey, @#$%^&* had a rose tattoo cover on it, y'know! that's worth 40 arrows alone, don't you think?

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

this is why i'd never make a good critic. i never remember that kinda stuff!

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Killing Joke?

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

The Knack

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

the bangles

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

was (not was)

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

David Sedaris

Guayaquil, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Stone Roses.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link

ian dury and the blockheads?
nick lowe?
b-52s?
devo?

(or maybe not; freedom of choice > duty now for the future, right?)

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Wall of Voodoo, maybe. Not sure how many albums they released post-Call of the West, but it should work up to their 3rd LP at least, and the 1st release (EP) was the best. EP>Dark Continent>Call of hte West>Andy PRieboy stuff

666, Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

oh and a case could be made for the Velvet Underground, if you are on the John Cale side of things.

and Nico > White Light > s/t > Loaded

I'd probably reverse 2 & 3, though

666, Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Suede.

Drowners Ep > Suded > Dog Man Star > Hell

elwisty (elwisty), Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

j.j. cale?

cyndi lauper?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 19 May 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link

the cars?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 19 May 2005 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Tricky.

paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 19 May 2005 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The Orb?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 May 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I almost said the
Beatles and the Beach Boys but
then I caught myself

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 19 May 2005 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The Orb?

At one point, I might have been persuaded to agree, but their last album was shockingly good.

Also, "Orbus Terrarum" was a huge letdown. I think they recovered a bit after that.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 19 May 2005 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The Orb?

"Pommes Fritz" is a better album than "Orblivion"?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

BADLY DRAWN BOY

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Tori Amos - no way, her Pele through to Venus period trumps her first two albums by a very long way.

Tricky - probably, but who's even bothered to track the descent of the last few?

Garbage - surely no one can argue against them. And they've done it to such an extreme (from an awesome debut to really hideously bad stuff within two albums).

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

1) Chuck is crazy re: The Clash.
2) Though Liz Phair is most certainly in decline, "Rock Me" from her last record along with several tracks from Whitechocolatespaceegg and Whipsmart blow at least half of the songs on Exile In Guyville out of the water. Exile is so overrated, I've always considered Whipsmart to be the real classic in her catalog.
3) Boys For Pele is the best Tori Amos record by a massive margin.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link

haha "re: the Clash"--dude, Cxxxk is crazy period.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, in spite of my defense of Make Believe, I totally agree that each Weezer record is weaker than the previous, though I like the songs I like on Maladroit a lot more than the songs I like on the Green Album. Filler can really ruin an average.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Tricky is in decline as well, but I think Premillenium Tension is a little bit better than Maxinquaye, which I don't think has aged nearly as well. Nevertheless, Tricky still makes a lot of great music, he's just wildly erratic and overeager to release his worst material and bury gems on very obscure records, if he releases them at all.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoever said Oasis was pretty dead-on, though I do like Morning Glory better than Definitely Maybe. Be Here Now is about 60% good, then the percentages drop off sharply with each new record.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Garbage's best album is their second.
There are too many people being listed who only really have two albums.
Tori Amos NOT being an example fourthed, fifthed and sixthed.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Tortoise

no, the first tortoise album is terrible.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link

(that is a massive overstatement. it's just not nearly as great as tnt and millions. I can't believe anyone would think it was).

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Though Liz Phair is most certainly in decline, "Rock Me" from her last record along with several tracks from Whitechocolatespaceegg and Whipsmart blow at least half of the songs on Exile In Guyville out of the water.

Agree completely, on a track-by-track basis. But... I think there was a good track on Heartbeat City, yet I'll still take The Cars...

Exile is so overrated, I've always considered Whipsmart to be the real classic in her catalog.

Contrarian. DeRogatorous. Please expand to 2500 words and submit for "Kill Your Second-Tier Idols."

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link

bad brains

tipustiger, Friday, 20 May 2005 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Well let's put it this way - I really love just about everything song on Whipsmart, but I only really like about 2/3 of Exile. I really like the guitar tone on Whipsmart, there's this overall sound to the instruments and production that I think it quite distinctive and special. I could expand on this, but that's really what it boils down to. Obvs a lot of her big classics are on Exile and I don't dispute that.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link

You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

A lot of people might say Michael Jackson, if you start with Off The Wall. Not me though.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

JAMC?

smirky, Friday, 20 May 2005 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link


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