― briania (briania), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
But yeah, I would say most fans don't rate the Manscape/Drill/First Letter era highly.
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Didoismus (Dada), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
this is one of those things i've NEVER HEARD and i really must rectify that.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link
quite a few of us are just plain wrong, then, aren't we? :)
although i must admit, the read-and-burn era stuff makes a *lot* more sense as two mini-albums as opposed to one full-lengther.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
I still haven't been able to find the "So and Slow It Goes" single, which has remixes by The Orb and LFO. I did manage to find the 12" with the 2 remixes The Halfer Trio did for Wire. Awesome.
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh, and 154 >>>> everything else I own
― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Send: Check the lp version, all the tracks are 'redux' i.e. edited down to their basic essences, and all the missing tracks off the "Read and Burn" are included. I should get this, one of these days.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 23 September 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link
really? that sounds intriguing. does anyone have this? is it worth it?
i got the CD version because it came with the live disc, which is wonderful: "mr marx's table" only really works live, and the vocal on 99.9 is mind-blowing.
― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 23 September 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link
I have this, and I remember the idea being more exciting than the actual reality. I recall there was some sloppy editing.
I haven't played it in awhile though, perhaps I should dig it out.
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 23 September 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link
i'd have to disagree there...
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Queen Electric Nipple Scorcher (Queen Electric Butt Prober BZZ), Thursday, 23 September 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link
It blew my mind straight off. I had only really heard A Bell Is A Cup and Ideal Copy prior to this, and I wasn't prepared for the sheer brilliance.
A Mutual Friend is one of my all-time favorite songs.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: damn cheapskate satanists (latebloomer), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
that's what listening to 154 feels like for us, yes
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: damn cheapskate satanists (latebloomer), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link
-- mark grout (mark.grou...) (webmail), September 23rd, 2004 1:46 PM. (link)
Funny, I thought I typed this in last month... (Still haven't got the REDUX yet, suffice to say)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 March 2005 09:32 (nineteen years ago) link
I mean, Miccio, it's not even worth responding to. We all know he's a joke. What's weird is that I like SOME of our posts Alfred, but then you post craziness like this. don't get it.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 14 March 2005 10:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 14 March 2005 10:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― pete b. (pete b.), Monday, 14 March 2005 11:04 (nineteen years ago) link
As for not playing an instrument, geez, can an argument be any lamer? You don't know if I play an instrument; and if I didn't, how would that make "154" a more rewarding experience?
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, word from the Wire camp is that Bruce Gilbert has left the group, leaving Wire mark 3 in jeopardy. Colin's Githead album will be out this year though...
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 4 July 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 4 July 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 4 July 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link
-- mark grout (mark.grou...) (webmail), March 14th, 2005 9:32 AM. (link)
Funny, I thought I typed that in 6 months ago. (I do have the REDUX now, suffice to say I've played it once. Boy am I backed up with stuff thesedays. I blame that 1981 box)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 4 July 2005 13:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tomato Voyeur (Bimble...), Saturday, 14 January 2006 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 14 January 2006 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 14 January 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link
-- mark grout (mark.grou...) (webmail), July 4th, 2005 2:36 PM. (link)
Happy birthday, that message.
I have played it a fair bit now, and it's excellent stuff. More than the actual 'normal' CD funnily enough.
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link
lyrically/vocally I see it as something to work through, beyond (kill this buddha, the road leads on)love "Blessed State" though - an all time fave:"loved in the flesh, but butchered in the mind"
sonically awesome - production masterpiece + terrific hooks and sounds. much Cocteau Twins seems a worthy continuation of parts of 154 - e.g. intro to "A Touching Display"
one review at the time (Rolling Stone?) read: Wire, Get Out Of Marienbad (!!!)
― Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link