DOES ANYONE IN THIS BITCH LIKE ICP

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Your syntax is truly dazzling. Head spinning, even.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link

"there are the woot woot juggalos"

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I since sarcasm here but you have no idea how much of a following there really is... and more often than not the poeple who reply to these things are the type of juggalos that I do not associate with.

As far as woot woot juggalos go, it's kinda like I said, if you are not a juggalo, it is hard to understand such topics. A lot of juggalos will see each other and go, "what up ninja?" and then the other will say, "Woot! Woot!" and that in itself is a long story.

Saint D. Mac (Saint D. Mac), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i want to hear the story

pete b. (pete b.), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I also would like to hear this story. In a very real and heartfelt way.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Basically, Juggalos also call each other ninjas... and you hear, woot woot said in songs a lot when a point is made or when they are having fun.... it's very hard to explain. You would have to listen to some of the music to fully understand, or even really try to, but this breaks down the difference perfectly when I refer to someone as a "woot woot juggalo" and anyone who listens to them will know that they are the more roudy outspoken (and often times stupid) listeners that don't think before they do things like spray paint walls (really, who does that anymore?) and they are the ones that giove us a bad name.

Saint D. Mac (Saint D. Mac), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:26 (nineteen years ago) link

So now you're hating on graf art, a cornerstone of hip-hop culture?
(/The Source Zealotry)

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Funny mention to "hatin" on hip hop because the clowns were actually accused of ripping off black culture because they rap. people will come up with anything to try to hurt people won't they.

Saint D. Mac (Saint D. Mac), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Well they did, and they are.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link

How? That is my question to you aaron?

How are they ripping off black culture?

Saint D. Mac (Saint D. Mac), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:34 (nineteen years ago) link

That is my question to you aaron?

Is it or isn't it? You tell me, I'm not a mind reader.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link

It wasn't supposed to have a ????? That is my question... you made the statement, so back it up, if you can. Or is that your opinion on the matter, in which case I still would like to know why you feel that way.

Saint D. Mac (Saint D. Mac), Monday, 11 October 2004 08:39 (nineteen years ago) link

ESL? If you're hoping for a serious discussion of ICP you've come to the wrong place, my boy. Unless Dan Perry shows up, maybe.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link

where is a serious juggalo, who really aims spraypaint???

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I got to interview ICP at last year's E3....they were nice guys...Violent J is really a big dude...

they smelled like some pretty strong weed.

they like playing Tony Hawks Pro Skater series alot.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Matt, I read that. I was surprised by how coherent they were.

adam (adam), Monday, 11 October 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Basically, Juggalos also call each other ninjas... and you hear, woot woot said in songs a lot when a point is made or when they are having fun.... it's very hard to explain.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 11 October 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah they seemed like pretty smart, regular dudes....Violent's a little more "on the ball" than Shaggy...he seems to be the Alpha Clown....but they were personable and funny....Also, it's quite possible that Shaggy was just more stoned than Violent, which was why he was quieter....

I interviewed Tera Patrick that same afternoon....Her husband is the singer from Biohazard...he was kinda wierd...he kept talking about her like she wasn't in the room...referring to her as "Tera Patrick" right in front of her....he gave me his business card...it has a naked picture of her on it.

she didn't seem to know much about video games.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Tera Patrick has hella stretch marks

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

she's actually pretty though in real life...not gross porno chick unhealthy looking.

i've never seen one of her films.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Why were you asking her about video games?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
http://www.insaneclownpussy.com

revive!, Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Ô¿Ô (eman), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

The girl jamming a bottle of faygo inside her is a definite low point of my day.
"I since sarcasm here"

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 July 2005 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Why were you asking her about video games?

way late, but cuz I work for a game magazine and she was there to promote Eidos's Backyard Wrestling 2 (she was a playable character)....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 18 July 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Evil rapping clowns, people. Evil rapping clowns with a record deal.

And they're having a 'gathering': http://www.juggalogathering.com/page05.php

cdwill, Monday, 18 July 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
www.insaneclownpussy.com?????

Dan (o.O) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't dare click on the link, but worse than a ferret rim job, surely?

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Even I can't argue against that.

Dan (O.o) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Doesn't exist... (I had to look...)

js (honestengine), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
Rap group's fans at home as outcasts
But incidents in other states, Pineville graffiti catch attention of police
KYTJA WEIR
kweir@charlotteobserver.com
Video | What is a juggalo?
When the graffiti at the Pineville apartment complex showed up, police began to worry.

The police had just received an alert about a gang called the Juggalos that beat and robbed 23 people in Washington state this summer. Another Juggalo in Massachusetts attacked three people in a gay bar with a hatchet this year, then killed an officer during a cross-country manhunt.

Now it appeared the Juggalos had invaded the town of 3,650 on the edge of Mecklenburg County.

No other local crimes had been tied to them. But the scribbled marks suggested the gang was threatening a face-off with the notorious MS-13 gang that has been blamed for crimes nationwide.

Some local Juggalos, though, say they are not a gang at all. Instead, they say they are merely devoted fans of the band Insane Clown Posse.

Yes, they say, songs mention killing and hatchets and axes. Yes, Juggalos have tattoos and hand signals like a gang.

"We're not like the Bloods or the Crips," said Stephen McAlister, 21, a Juggalo in Gaston County. "We don't go out and sell drugs, shoot each other and pimp women."

They say they are better known for wearing makeup like clowns. They douse each other with a brand of soda pop called Faygo instead of spraying bullets.

And McAlister estimates hundreds -- maybe even thousands -- of Juggalos and Juggalettes live in the Charlotte region. Next month many will gather at the Tremont Music Hall when the Insane Clown Posse stops here for its Hallowicked tour.

"We're not as evil as people portray us," McAlister said. "Granted there are some who do enjoy wreaking havoc, but they also pay the consequences. My crew, we are peaceful."

Gang or groupies? Which version is right? Or is it a combination somewhere in between?

United like a family

The Juggalos' devotion to Insane Clown Posse and its "horror-rap" sound doesn't stop with buying albums. They've adopted an entire lifestyle.Other bands have also attracted adoring acolytes who create their own subcultures. Deadheads rambled along with the Grateful Dead. Parrotheads flock to Jimmy Buffett concerts. The KISS Army rallied its troops.

The Juggalos? They drive through the night to reach concerts in other states. They say the chance to meet band members is like politicians getting to meet the president.

They dye their hair and plait it like the band members. They tattoo themselves with the silhouette of a wild-haired man running with a hatchet, the logo for the band's record label. They wear it on charms, adorn cars with stickers and sport other ICP paraphernalia.

They also don makeup that makes them look like Bozo the Clown visiting the dark side.

"A lot of people didn't know me without my makeup on," said Daniel "Spike" McAlister, 22, who used to wear it to the store, in the street, anywhere.

(But other Juggalos say they can't wear it all the time because the best facepaint can be hard to find year round. And, some say, it causes breakouts.)

For the McAlisters' crew, who call themselves the Gashouse Juggalos because many live in Gaston County, all the clothing, makeup and gear represent something greater. The Insane Clown Posse has united them like a family, creating a network for people who might not otherwise fit in.

"It's the outcasts. It's the people society rejects," said Stephen McAlister, Spike's brother. "It's like the kid that's always picked last at sports. The fat kid. They just shut us out."

Carrie Morris, 24, whom Juggalos call Faygo, said the band and the culture bring something important to their lives. "I can't tell you how many people would have killed themselves before listening to this music," she said.

The band gives them an instant bond. They spot each other by the gear and shout out, "What's up, Ninja?"

And though some lyrics speak of "chicken hunting" (killing rednecks), they say they don't take that part of the message literally.

"We do not discriminate," Morris said.

"No, we hate equally," Spike McAlister retorted.

But Stephen McAlister got serious. "Just because the music is talking about murder, killing people, doesn't mean we are going to do it."

What constitutes a gang?

Pineville police, however, say they need to take every threat seriously. And the graffiti they found Aug. 14 behind the Meadow Creek apartments off South Polk Street made them worried about a possible gang war.

"People say graffiti is harmless," said Lt. Wayne Embrey. "Well, it's not. There's usually something behind this."

The graffiti they found showed joker icons. The biggest concern: markings that showed MS-13 crossed out.

"If we're seeing people cross out a tagging, they're saying this is my territory," Embrey said. "That concerns us because you've got a turf war about to happen."

The Gashouse Juggalos say they doubt the graffiti came from real Juggalos. But they acknowledge it's not the first time someone left ICP graffiti in the Charlotte area. After one concert, graffiti appeared on a local church.

Morris said she doesn't oppose graffiti but doesn't do it herself. However, when it's on a church, she said, that's not cool. She said she and other Juggalos offered to help clean it off.

She said they help others whenever they can, bringing gasoline to those whose cars run out on the side of the road. She points to the hatchet man icon and tells those she helps to remember the Juggalos. Real gangs don't help others, she said.

In North Carolina, that's not part of the official definition. Authorities generally define a gang as a group of three or more people who share an interest, bond or activity characterized by colors or icons. Law enforcement experts also say the group must engage in ongoing criminal or delinquent behavior.

Officer S.J. Parker, a Charlotte-Mecklenburg police gang investigator, said he's not sure if the Juggalos fit the definition. "We don't have enough information to classify them either way," he said. Some Juggalos appear to adopt other gang titles, like Juggalo Crips, but police haven't determined what that means: gang, or wannabe?

Still, Embrey wants Pineville residents to report any Juggalo activity that appears gang-oriented. But he cautions, "Not everyone out there wearing a clown face is going to cut you up."

A culture of their own

The Gashouse Juggalos say they want people to know the truth about them. But they also say they won't change."There's nothing that can pull us apart," said Chris Queen, 19, who friends call Twitch. "There's nothing the cops can do."

On a recent afternoon, a cluster of Juggalos gathered on the McAlisters' driveway in the Gaston County town of Ranlo. They cranked up the ICP song "Shangri-La" on Morris' car stereo.

It was a typical hangout for them. Smoking cigarettes. Listening to music. Goofing around outdoors. They admitted that police came by earlier that day because they were shooting off fireworks. The music grew louder.

"It's already started," Morris said, rubbing goose bumps appearing on her arm.

"Ah I got my chills now," added Spike McAlister.

They sang along, knowing every word. The McAlisters' grandfather smoked on the porch, watching them.

The Juggalos ignored him and continued to sing, bobbing their heads to the music. When the song died down, they broke out the face makeup. Jonathan "Shaggz" Pope, 22, a tattoo artist, painted faces with stark clown patterns in gold and black.

"My God, you look bad enough without that," the grandfather yelled to Spike McAlister.

"I know, Paw Paw," McAlister said back softly.

The grandfather, who declined to give his name, tries to ignore the music that often fills his house and yard.

"If that's what you call music, that's out," he said.

He turned and walked away. The Juggalos, though, continued to rock out to the music.

Juggalo Icons

• Faygo -- Soda pop from a Detroit-based company that comes in a range of flavors from cola to peach, to Rock & Rye. "It's like any other soda. It's just cheap," said Carrie Morris, a Juggalo. "It's for the broke ninjas."

• Hatchet man -- The logo of the band's record label features a profile of a man running with a hatchet. The logo appears on jewelry, bumper stickers and clothing.

• Wicked Clowns, the Lotus and ICP -- Juggalo hand signals.

• Ninja -- A term of affection for a fellow Juggalo.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Monday, 25 September 2006 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link

"Not everyone out there wearing a clown face is going to cut you up."

Maybe not, but it's still a pretty good rule of thumb.

clotpoll (Clotpoll), Monday, 25 September 2006 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Juggalo Icons

• Faygo -- Soda pop from a Detroit-based company that comes in a range of flavors from cola to peach, to Rock & Rye. "It's like any other soda. It's just cheap," said Carrie Morris, a Juggalo. "It's for the broke ninjas."

• Hatchet man -- The logo of the band's record label features a profile of a man running with a hatchet. The logo appears on jewelry, bumper stickers and clothing.

• Wicked Clowns, the Lotus and ICP -- Juggalo hand signals.

• Ninja -- A term of affection for a fellow Juggalo.

• Swingin' on the flippety-flop -- hanging out

nervous (cochere), Monday, 25 September 2006 04:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Authorities generally define a gang as a group of three or more people who share an interest, bond or activity characterized by colors or icons.....

m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Monday, 25 September 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

characterized by bright colors, shiny objects and soft cooing sounds

Telephonething (Telephonething), Monday, 25 September 2006 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

you can goto hell in a faggots ass!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...
JUGGALETTE 4 LYFE BITCHES

http://tn1-5.deviantart.com/fs11/150/i/2006/248/e/e/American_Juggalo_by_juggalos.jpg

insanejuggalette, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link

marry me

sanskrit, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

So...has anyone here ever seen the ICP movie, "Big Money Hustla$"?

It tells the story of greedy clown gangster Big Baby Sweets (played by Violent J) and a funked out cop from Frisco named Sugar Bear (played by Shaggy 2 Dope) who rolls into town to clean up a corrupt police force and fight rampant crime plaguing the city. There's a 500 pound stripper and ninjas and a drive-by perpetrated on a stock footage baby deer, cameo performances by Re-run and Rudy Ray Moore and you'd better believe there's titties.

So yes, the movie is very entertaining, but really it's the DVD commentary that makes this worth renting (Netflix has it!)According to the DVD commentary there's a lot going on in the film that we, the viewers, could never in a million years have known if it weren't for the commentary. For example: all cocaine shown in the film was not real. Fact! Making movies is expensive. Fact! And even though when you watch the movie you only see a few actors on screen at a time, there are really dozens of people there in the room with the actors, operating the cameras and lights and stuff.

And there's a prequel in the works! It will hopefully be entitled "Big Money Rustla$" and may even be a Western.

saudade, Monday, 26 November 2007 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I may be years late to this, but it is comforting to know that my love of Black Sabbath and Will Haven should keep me safe.

Nate Carson, Monday, 26 November 2007 12:03 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

yo does any of you like INSANE CLOWN POSSE!!!!!!! if you dont now WHAT THE FUCK ICP IS DONT ask ME ..... .....................BITCH !!!!!!!!!!!! peace out --joggalo_6*

mystery girl Pappa found on some random pervy blog (PappaWheelie V), Thursday, 18 December 2008 03:56 (fifteen years ago) link

underrated thread

I cant find any messag bords worth my time not even this one is worth my time but, i get borded.

p.s. all of you are bitch-is

― patrick terry, Saturday, June 2, 2001 1:00 AM (7 years ago)

arugula (unregistered), Thursday, 18 December 2008 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Victor Woot Wooten Juggalo

I shall always respect my elders (Z S), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:53 (fifteen years ago) link

fuk all of you ! if you dont like ICP fuk you all you can goto hell in a faggots ass! so fukk all of you! cept the ppl who like black sabbath there cool. but the rest of you butt plungin fuks can suck ma sweaty greasy balls!!

― Justin "necro the evil klown" shortt

ilxor, Friday, 20 February 2009 04:48 (fifteen years ago) link

It's a bold new direction for Wooten and one that I think we should all respect.

I feel twitterers around me (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 February 2009 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Whenever I see the acronym ICP I always automatically think of these guys.

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 20 February 2009 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Now it appeared the Juggalos had invaded the town of 3,650 on the edge of Mecklenburg County.

No other local crimes had been tied to them. But the scribbled marks suggested the gang was threatening a face-off with the notorious MS-13 gang that has been blamed for crimes nationwide.

wonder how this worked out for them

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

what a disaster for juggalos and i am not even kidding with that

goole, Monday, 27 July 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i wanna thank ZS for the victor woot wooten juggalo again; love that so much.

im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 July 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link


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