short-sleeve button-down men's shirts

everyone you've ever talked to in your life is wrong

We've done this before, I think button-down should only refer to the collar. Using it for the other kind is just laziness.

do you call a button-down collar an Oxford collar?

This guy's a handsome motherfucker and even still, he looks like he wears a beeper on his belt-loop.

http://www.omdembroidery.com/pics/SP11.jpg

rolling short sleeve shirt sleeves seems unwieldy, no?

not so much, although often it's helpful to roll them before putting them on. this isn't like the big over-and-over roll you put into a long-sleeve shirt -- half the time it just means turning the hem back one time. if you have particularly thin arms and are good with fabric, you must even pull off the sort of loose, rounded roll I'm incapable of and always envy on people's jeans. it's really not too odd -- imagine a 1950s work shirt -- and a lot of shirts now are sort of built for it.

this is a pretty horrible example of what I mean -- I'm not sure I like it here -- but it's hard to find pictures, so here's one example: http://slimages.macys.com/is/image/MCY/products/4/optimized/522954_fpx.tif?bgc=255,255,255&wid=327&qlt=90,0&layer=comp&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.7,1.0,0.5,0&fmt=jpeg

^^ I mean, that's sort of a lame shirt with a built-in roll -- I wish I could find a picture of just a 1950s-style button shirt with the sleeves rolled over once

how do you suggest i differentiate in casual conversation between a shirt that has buttons on the front and one that does not

yeah, it makes sense that there is a term to distinguish between shirts and t-shirts that emphasizes the buttons, and you don't often need to to talk about the buttons on the collar, and when you do you can call it an Oxford collar, so appropriating "button-down/up" for the main buttons seems sensible to me.

http://images.smarter.com/300x300x15/30/37/6197237.jpg

SUMMER DUDE: "Wow, you were right! Clearing the brush last winter did help keep leaves off the driveway!"
WINTER DUDE: "You ... look ... like... a dork!!!!"

what i sort of hate are the shirts that are sold pre-rolled, buttoned-up somewhere along the sleeve.

also I was trying to make the thread quickly to lure people from the other thread, yes yes button-down means collar, "button-up" seems to me like how only women in the U.S. refer to shirts, blah blah blah, if you're a style mod and you care just make it "button shirt" and chillax

A woven shirt (ie not a stretchy fabric) with buttons down the front is called a "shirt".

http://www.uomosport.com/v/vspfiles/photos/BUBCS1502S19-1.jpg

"Ladies call me 'The Sting'."

more like dorky dad/ghost of dorkiness future

xp

xp, he looks like benjamin horne's brother

http://ai.pricegrabber.com/pi/7/27/22/72722539_160.jpg

"This shirt came free with my new encyclopedia set!"

A shirt with buttons and a collar that IS stretchy is a polo shirt. A shirt with buttons that isn't stretchy and is worn casually and has some kind of loud print on it is a "sport shirt". A shirt that IS stretchy and DOESN'T have a collar or buttons is a "T-shirt". And so on.

this is sorta pitiful, it's not like we couldn't image-search a whole bunch of dorky-ass examples of "pants" or "coats" or a million things that you wear because you know it's possible to wear decent ones

you're a shirt

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vnjQIQAtXOk/SgJlrYy_QdI/AAAAAAAACGk/7AvVvix9OaI/s400/mjolk-short-sleeve-shirt-bow-tie.jpg

they call that tie "the hitler"

that's a nice shirt, though

thank you laurel for the taxonomy <3

I mean c'mon dudes.

guayaberas: classic? or only-for-cubanos?

http://kennedyembroidery.com/images/10-13-05/BG-8213S-web.jpg

that pic upthread is a perfect example of why folx need to size up.

Seriously? Shoulder seams are in exactly the right spot, length is good, if n/a has a gut it isn't showing. Sizing up would give him the look everyone's making fun of here.

i like wearing them but no one else seems to like me wearing them. wish i had a salsa gig so i had an excuse.

lol shasta u bitch

The sleeves are hardly the only problem with all these shirts. Short-sleeve button-downs need to be patterned or safari style or pretty much anything other than NASA Control Room Engineer 1968.

http://kennedyembroidery.com/images/10-13-05/BG-7217S-web.jpg

manager of red lobster #6023

http://imgsrv.wbz.com/image/wbz/UserFiles/Image/Sports%20Images/August%2017%20Angels%202%20Belushi%20throws%20out%20first%20pitch.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/space/1/0/J/8/1/S70-35096.jpg

the hitler tie shirt is well proportioned.

http://kennedyembroidery.com/images/10-13-05/BG-8206S-web.jpg

the one-sleever, for war vets

I like guayaberas. But in the spirit of a fashion "exception", it helps if yr style should be pretty straitlaced except for the shirt. And like everything else, IT SHOULD BE TAILORED.

Do not wear guaybera with mandals and shorts unless you ARE actually PR/Cuban/etc and you are THERE RIGHT NOW.

Guayabera w green army shorts and Sambas = A+++ :D style mayhem!

NASA Control Room Engineer 1968.

But this is hot-cha-cha! NASA Control Room Engineer plus good hair or tattoos or something of your own that's modern, this is very "Houston, we have liftoff."

i love it

tattoos otm

yeah the NASA square look is a key component to my style but YMMV

definitely key component of mine, although i guess that's not entirely surprising

http://z.about.com/d/space/1/0/J/8/1/S70-35096.jpg

Hot-ch-ch-cha!

Granted, even nerds had clothing cut better than what most adults where today, but you had better be athletic as hell to pull off that white button-up.

What are those, NASA guys? They got in a morning exercise, I'm sure.

I thought they were a bunch of Mormons listening to Tabernacle records.

I am going to have to start posting random shirts from chain-store websites to counteract all this image-search goofery.

oh great, ILX won't let me

http://images.urbanoutfitters.com/is/image/UrbanOutfitters/16009151_01_b

ooo, NASA

folx need to size up

pimping for steroids yet again

roll them, seriously

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this was like the best advice i've ever gotten

lol

fun history of the guayabera at the miami history museum, online exhibit here http://www.historymiami.org/guayabera

circa 1897
http://www.historymiami.org/guayabera-assets/images/lg_3-spanish-sergeant.jpg