Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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It’s not because it’s based on text prediction. It’s always just approximated what you would expect it to say. Very weird technology.

treeship., Thursday, 6 April 2023 00:11 (one year ago) link

In this student’s case, the bot talked about themes present in many of this poet’s other work. Alas, they weren’t relevant to the poem they were assigned to write about.

treeship., Thursday, 6 April 2023 00:13 (one year ago) link

Since Canvas Turnitin introduced an AI calculator, I've busted six students for using ChatGTS, two of whom earned a 100% percentage; when confronted he said he got lazy.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 April 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link

*ChatGPT

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 April 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link

damn

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Friday, 7 April 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link

Chat GPT "Write a lame excuse for handing in an essay as your own that was entirely AI-generated"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 7 April 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

Start regularly recording your parents, elders and loved ones. With enough transcript data, new voice synthesis and video models, there is a 100% chance that they will live with you forever after leaving physical body. This should be even possible by end of the year.

— Pratik Desai (@chheplo) April 8, 2023

i watched a play about this concept a few years ago. i believe that in the end, we learned that it was creepy

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 10 April 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

this was a fucking Black Mirror episode ffs

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 April 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link

its funny how this ai conversation is playing out over chatbots, a technology thats trained to look like talking that doesnt really care if what its saying is true or not, its hard to talk about ai in a wider sense because its very technical and because it doesnt really mean anything, so we just talk about the chatbots that make up fake quotes when student use it to write a paper for them, lol

Last month, Google released a chatbot, Bard. Weeks earlier, ethics experts recommended blocking the launch, saying Bard was dangerous and inaccurate. Their director changed the document, removing the recommendation and downplaying Bard’s risks. w/@KYWeisehttps://t.co/L2OUZO0ASd

— Nico Grant (@nicoagrant) April 7, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:47 (one year ago) link

I asked #ChatGPT for the average age of US soldiers in the Korean War. It began with a confident "22". I asked for sources. It eventually confessed to getting it from a MASH episode. pic.twitter.com/ywyRozlH9I

— Gene Zubovich (@genezubovich) April 11, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 13:34 (one year ago) link

how long until we have AI generated "I made ChatGPT do this thing" articles.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link

it doesn't actually know where it gets information, right? the second answer is just predictive text based on the two questions

mh, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:22 (one year ago) link

I did a spot check and one of the articles it cites was attributed to the wrong institution, and another was a book published in 2010 so it's unlikely it'd have parsed the text

it's just regurgitating things related to the korean war

mh, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link

yeah its a chatbot not a search bot its trying to chat not give perfect info, im sure someone is attempting to address this issue but right now its just really unreliable

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link

like idk why "it's citing M.A.S.H." is the punchline here, it's just making shit up on the fly

mh, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link

because its funny but yeah prob not true

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link

brb I'm filing some patents about "factbots"

mh, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

Can't wait for fact checkers to move to AI fact checking, so that we get Politifact saying JFK's head "just did that"

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

im c0ding patentbot

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link

damn, outclassed again

mh, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

this technology could never really vet sources unless it was programmed to only look in certain places. this would make it unable to function, because it requires a vast dataset to internalize enough pattern recognition to create syntactic sentences that respond to the topic. as far as i understand it, deep learning is a dead end for producing artificial general intelligence and this is a good thing.

treeship., Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link

in general i think the a.i. revolution is a lot of hype.

treeship., Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

i think it will have many uses it already has some but of course the disrupt everything put everyone out of a job stuff is just silly and of course the idea of creating a general intelligence on a computer is nerd science fiction poisoning

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link

it is fn hilarious that the thing thats blowing everyones mind currently lies constantly, just like a real person

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link

is it trained on wikipedia? seems like it would be but maybe not

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

prob i imagine they just have a webcrawler soaking up whatever they can

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link

i think it could put a number of people out of jobs. it can't run a marketing department by itself or whatever but trash copy that the department doesn't care about could be written by it, idk.

treeship., Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link

the real effect, i suspect, will be that the internet becomes even more overloaded with unreadable SEO drivel.

treeship., Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

yes, wikipedia is part of the dataset for the major LLMs aiui. also lots of digitized books and Common Crawl: https://commoncrawl.org/

rob, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

openAI won't reveal their dataset heh probably because they think it's their secret sauce

, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link

my understanding was that includes basically every publicly available piece of text

treeship., Wednesday, 12 April 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link

xp also copyright and privacy law violations galore!

but I don't think they're that secretive about their sources, they just claim they "filtered" them and are vague about *that*

rob, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link

both the image and text generation stuff is uncanny for sure and impressive superficially, but none of it has any real value. there is always something sterile and "off" about it, even before you know that it was not produced by a person.

treeship., Wednesday, 12 April 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

no offense to anyone in this thread who happens to be a bot.

treeship., Wednesday, 12 April 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

Go forth and sin no more.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

i think it could put a number of people out of jobs. it can't run a marketing department by itself or whatever but trash copy that the department doesn't care about could be written by it, idk.

― treeship., Wednesday, April 12, 2023 11:39 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

doing something that no one cares about is prob not the most secure job in the first place, but regardless most office jobs arent real anyway so im not sure why people are worried about the computer stealing them when they havent already been stolen by space

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

in the interest of social stability and in lieu of better alternatives, we need to preserve the bullshit jobs

treeship., Wednesday, 12 April 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

a huge part of marketing/website writing is learning to internalize the very inconsistent and weird preferences of some particular VP of marketing at the client and all the weird brand language stuff they prefer (and don't prefer), often you have an audience of one.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link

that's true. and so far a.i. cannot really do that. when they try to imitate famous authors it never works. they have no understanding of the difference between style and content, so invariably if you ask it to write something in the *style* of james joyce it will say something like "i have ambivalent feelings toward my home country, ireland, and my religious education in the roman catholic church."

treeship., Wednesday, 12 April 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

i talked about this upthread with the gpt-4 version of jonathan swift that was supposed to impress us. the diction was of the 18th century, and also other little details like random capitalizations of common nouns. but there nothing of his actual style in the writing -- no irony or anger. he just described his beliefs and works the way wikipedia would.

treeship., Wednesday, 12 April 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link

The problem with A.I. isn't what it can't do, it's people using it to do things it can't do anyway.

But even that is less large scale harmful and more lol

Like if work began demanding AI write out training materials and it completely getting all the 402(g) limits wrong and using outdated Required Minimum Distribution info

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 18:10 (one year ago) link

guys, I've been holding off on admitting it, but "treeship." (note the period) is a bot I trained off of treeship's old posts

mh, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

Maybe we’ve already gotten into this, but I’m looking forward to when so much content is generated by AI that it becomes a large portion of what AI is getting trained with. Then it all becomes a massive feedback loop, with AI-generated content getting more and more deranged, to the point where it shifts how we all think and talk about things. And surely human-generated content will diminish, because a lot of content-generating jobs will be eliminated! Why pay an actual person when you can just have an increasingly self-taught and rabbit-holed technology perform the same function, with “close-enough” results at much lower cost?

epistantophus, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 22:12 (one year ago) link

I fear there will be plenty of creative jobs lost to AI because plenty of people are happy with "near enough" if it's free or super cheap, they don't care if it's a bit off or sterile or whatever; so is the shit they'll be marketing with it.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 April 2023 00:29 (one year ago) link

If the Internet and mass culture gets that shitty there will be pushback against all of it. Having a social media presence will become lame.

treeship., Thursday, 13 April 2023 01:50 (one year ago) link

will ai steal technical writing jobs? asking for a friend

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 13 April 2023 02:17 (one year ago) link

no, speaking as a tech writer

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 13 April 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link

you should see the laughably incorrect shit it spews out when you ask detailed solar electronics questions

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 13 April 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link

I just asked it a simple 401(k) regulation question and it blew it completely (said that it is possible to roll Roth IRAs into Roth 401(k)s, which it isn't).

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 April 2023 03:14 (one year ago) link


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