HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

And assumed Tom would get up to speak and take a tumble in front of everyone.

i was hoping the boxes would just gently crumple slightly for Tom

I keep coming back to that 'you're not serious people' line as a very 'game unwittingly recognize game' comment from Mr. My News Network is a Pirate Ship

Except you just saw the reporters get carried along with it? The guy who can fire you at will is a serious person. The kids can’t get it together enough to settle on an agreed strategy and are constantly stabbing each other in the back.

plus idk this is just me but i think Logan knows that they are all far more motivated by “get back at Dad” than “succeed in business” and i think he clearly sees that in their shenanigans (maybe more than they think?)

so some people on this board may know one of my jobs is hosting karaoke in portland, so anyways I used to have this whole bit I’d do threatening an all-Leonard Cohen karaoke night, so when Connor was caught mid-famous blue raincoat you can imagine I had to pick myself off the floor

lmao

just incredible

amazing

lool

first they take Manhattan

My partner has said for a long time that he wants Famous Blue Raincoat played at his funeral, so that was a hands-over-mouth moment for us both.

“You’re note serious people”

Logan is an evil evil evil man, but you have to respect that he has this hard to define quality, let’s call it competency(which, crucify me, but I do see as a virtue). It by no means outweighs his horribleness, but he’s operating on a higher plane and if his kids could just respect that, while still acknowledging his horribleness, things would be going much better for them.

This is the key element that draws me to this show: terrible man is very good at what he does and all his naysayers keep rejecting that to their own downfall

I don’t think shiv’s “you say it and it makes it true, confirmation bias” but was accurate. Just a scapegoat to allow herself to think she’s smarter and better than dad it’s just that everyone listens to dad and not her

agree with that. it has been true in some situations but not this one

just here to third the brilliance of the Jaws line. Genuine LOL here.

I just realized that the actress who plays Willa, Justine Lupe, is also in Mrs Maisel (she’s Astrid, the gentile wife of Midge’s brother!)

anyway. as you were.

Willa in her moment near the end was really wonderful in this, as if to say to Connor, you asked a simple question because you're simple but it has a complicated answer and you're going to get it because I'm not as simple as you are and I want you to know that -- or maybe, in a sense, she was saying to Connor "I love you but you are not a serious person"

damn, that last shot tonight...jeremy strong is a fantastic actor

Well that was a good episode. Everybody got their moment or moments, and we know them all so well by now that we understand where each of them is coming from and all of their conflicting feelings and motivations.

cant believe they killed off the big man! whatre we gonna do now

they had to! it’s in the name of the show

really powerful episode, all the kids are such great actors

yeah it was tremendous

they had to! it’s in the name of the show

I said that to my wife at the start of the season, he had to die somewhere in it if just to manifest the title of the show. I didn't expect it so early but I think it's good timing, gives plenty of time to let everybody's stories play out.

And yeah, the whole cast was so good. Even down to the guy who plays Colin, with just a little moment by the car at the end.

xp Was not so sold on the kids in this ep but structurally speaking, the death now, while it took me totally by surprise, is in retrospect clearly the right way to do it, leaving a decent amount of show to actually be about the, you know, succession. Having the death at the end would be too neat, having it not happen at all would be a copout, having a big lead-up to it would I think have been too much like what's come before.

I was worried they'd do some drawn-out coma deal, I'm glad they made it neat and clean. I was sure he wasn't going to just pop back up, because the series started with him almost dying, doing it again would have felt cheap.

i just watched their post show interview thing and they said they filmed the whole boat part all in one go they were really just running around the boat doing everything in order without setting up for each shot and whatnot pretty cool

totally a good move, but i will miss the old bear. every week i always think who's the most fucked--in a way this fucks so many people, kids included. it was pretty heavy too--which was fine, but I appreciated the humor in Kendall's line, "We’ll get a funeral off the rack... We can do Reagan’s with tweaks.”

and yeah how they shot it was cool--seems like the rest of the season will be total chaos

I want it to be "war between the kids and the seasoned professionals" but I fear it's going to be way too much about the presidential election and ATN, which is where the show has been least strong

i have faith they'll land the series in a great way--was such a powerful episode and all the actors are at the top of their game

also what if Kerry is pregnant ;)

you mean chuckles the clown??

i just watched their post show interview thing and they said they filmed the whole boat part all in one go they were really just running around the boat doing everything in order without setting up for each shot and whatnot pretty cool

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the filming did seem pretty grueling, basically filming the same 30 minute one-act play on a boat for days on end

This was so great, Jeremy Strong’s stricken face when they get the call first. The way the siblings know each other well enough to immediately know what’s up. Connor…being Connor with his almost deserted wedding. Found his whiplash reactions the most touching. Roman probably went onto the plane to try to get Logan’s phone, right?

great, great, incredible episode

also, this is dumb but Kerry’s hilarious bizarre reaction made me think for a moment that he WAS alive & this was going to be a whole misunderstanding farce “oh he was revived & now karl frank karolina & tom dont know he’s alive & are going to be drafting statements& press conference behind the closed door of the pland thinking he’s dead until they land”

but no

also the endless chest compressions was so morbidly funny but also part of me was like maybe THAT killed him

Her reaction made me think maybe they'd been having sex in the bathroom or something and she thought she killed him, or maybe it was just meant to reinforce her inability to intentionally express gravitas.

yeah she came off as the most alienated from being a human of anyone which is stiff competition

karolina kind of just didnt care but i dont think she had a long history with logan

i saw Karolina just leaning into her role as a coping mechanism idk

that logic of being busy, doing something, is better than sitting with the loss

The speed with which the siblings pushed both Kerry and Greg out of any conversation…

I think Kerry was either thinking about a windfall she was about to come into, or she was in shock/disbelief that she’d just lost her chance at a windfall

Yeah there was no explicit discussion about "what's in the will" but surely that's on people's minds. The kids are I guess taken care of because they already own company stock, but people like Kerry and Colin and who knows who else (Greg?) are surely up in the air.

Surely!

I watched S1 and the first couple of episodes of S2 and then noped out, but when S4 started airing I decided to keep up with the show via spoilery review-site recaps and this thread, and I gotta say it's a lot of fun, keeping my back turned to the stage and watching everyone else who is watching the stage.

^ha, I did the same thing. but i'm watching S4 and it's fantastic. the recaps miss the comedy elements and the incredible acting.

Less humor obv but lots of good lines nonetheless. Kerry is hilarious.

“it looks like she caught a foul ball at yankee stadium”

Having this happen offscreen and arrive in the episode suddenly via phone calls and uncertainty and all that, it felt a lot more palpably real than just showing him keeling over.

I feel like a lot of recappers miss the nuances of the show (and other shows too but here I notice it more) and they just consistently misread scenes and characters, and their musings on what might happen are informed by shit that doesn’t apply to this show.

I read this Brian Cox postmortem interview and enjoyed the harsh but fair zing at Game of Thrones.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/09/arts/television/brian-cox-succession.html

it felt a lot more palpably real than just showing him keeling over

Yeah, the confused and initially inconclusive reports, the difficulty in getting reliable information, the slow acceptance of it at different rates by different people — felt like how a sudden death actually happens (albeit not typically on a private jet).