short-sleeve button-down men's shirts

not sure I fully agree w/ short-sleeves

completely sure I fully disagree w/ button-downs

if you feel the sleeve-ends of these look bad, and do not have "huge arms" to show off, considering rolling them up. maybe even just once. it can improve things, in the right circumstances, and a lot of shirts like this cut the sleeves a little lower and wider than would suit a normal arm in the first place.

there is the danger of looking even nerdier than usual

the only way around this is to, like, get huge arms.

huger arms, i mean

― SNaKaTTaK (goole), Monday, August 3, 2009 3:50 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fyi this will make you look like jeremy piven in his terrible new movie

i'm already so dangerously close to looking pivvish as it is!!

surm, uniqlo stock is v. seasonal and changes fast, at least in the UK, so if you want to stock up on short sleeves you probably need to go soon!

that pic upthread is a perfect example of why folx need to size up.

the only time I feel these are out of bounds is when they are plain white, because of mormon

i like these and wear them well not often but sometimes in the summer

ha xpost i have a plain white one but its more for wearing under things

should do a michael douglas in falling down vs dennis franz in nypd blue poll

shasta otm

do me! did i buy a size too small? (sorry, it is dark here, so you'll have to go by the silohuette, but elmo should rest assured that this is not plain white)

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Photo22.jpg

dare to untuck, cowboy

that half tucked look is my traditional post-evening-meal thing.

(it is not an affectation, it is because i ate too much and had to move stuff around)

no it's cute!

good fit. ok so i'm going to ask for a gift certificate to uniqlo for my bday gift.

basically all i wear above the waist these days is short and long-sleeved uniqlo linen shirts.

i prefer snug polos, some of the sleeves on those short sleeves ones can be awkward for a skinnier dude like myself

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ2NTg3Mjk2N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTE2NzY2._V1._SX300_SY400_.jpg

roll them, seriously

wait until u become married fattey
xposts

rolling short sleeve shirt sleeves seems unwieldy, no?

that is the look i fear with oversizing short sleeve shirts.

the malcolm in the middle dad, i mean

I usually recommend dressing for yr physique but I gotta say, the short-sleeved B Sherman-style tailored shirt in plaid or pattern or (esp) tartan check is one thing that, for me, the shirt itself takes precedence. It doesn't matter if yr arms don't fill out the sleeves. I pref tucked-in, but untucked is okay w me too. Button all the buttons, or leave the top one open. Do your thing. Just wear the shirt.

the only decent short-sleeve shirts i have are western ones from second hand shops. my favorite one is approaching RIP status, it's a thin shirt to start with and the left shoulder is practically transparent (possibly from the strap of my bike bag). ;_;

xp

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/MV5BMTQ2NTg3Mjk2N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTY.jpg

^ sleeves are hueg!

That shirt is just plain too big for him. American Dad problem, dressing like toddlers, see many ILX threads over the years.

i just don't understand why sleeves like that are manufcatured

a good length seems to be about 3 inches above the elbow, for these types of shirts

Sleeve circumference matters less than sleeve length!! People w skinny arms, do not despair! Paradoxically, the solution is to show more arm, not less.

http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/stan-the-wizard-and-the-magic-mushrooms-ii-j-w-baker.jpg

I simply cannot bring myself to wear these.

(this thread title is maybe a little bit imprecise fwiw b/c "button-down" properly refers to the collar, not the front)

(not to be pedantic but the first image itt is not a "button-down")

(just fyi)

http://www.bestinthecountry.co.uk/product_images/1467417012008222123.jpg

everyone i've ever talked to in my life uses "button-down" to refer to the buttons that keep a shirt closed

i always thought button-down was american for button-up (not that we call them "button-up")

sleeves are hueg

xp

everyone you've ever talked to in your life is wrong

We've done this before, I think button-down should only refer to the collar. Using it for the other kind is just laziness.

do you call a button-down collar an Oxford collar?

This guy's a handsome motherfucker and even still, he looks like he wears a beeper on his belt-loop.

http://www.omdembroidery.com/pics/SP11.jpg

rolling short sleeve shirt sleeves seems unwieldy, no?

not so much, although often it's helpful to roll them before putting them on. this isn't like the big over-and-over roll you put into a long-sleeve shirt -- half the time it just means turning the hem back one time. if you have particularly thin arms and are good with fabric, you must even pull off the sort of loose, rounded roll I'm incapable of and always envy on people's jeans. it's really not too odd -- imagine a 1950s work shirt -- and a lot of shirts now are sort of built for it.

this is a pretty horrible example of what I mean -- I'm not sure I like it here -- but it's hard to find pictures, so here's one example: http://slimages.macys.com/is/image/MCY/products/4/optimized/522954_fpx.tif?bgc=255,255,255&wid=327&qlt=90,0&layer=comp&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.7,1.0,0.5,0&fmt=jpeg

^^ I mean, that's sort of a lame shirt with a built-in roll -- I wish I could find a picture of just a 1950s-style button shirt with the sleeves rolled over once

how do you suggest i differentiate in casual conversation between a shirt that has buttons on the front and one that does not

yeah, it makes sense that there is a term to distinguish between shirts and t-shirts that emphasizes the buttons, and you don't often need to to talk about the buttons on the collar, and when you do you can call it an Oxford collar, so appropriating "button-down/up" for the main buttons seems sensible to me.

http://images.smarter.com/300x300x15/30/37/6197237.jpg

SUMMER DUDE: "Wow, you were right! Clearing the brush last winter did help keep leaves off the driveway!"
WINTER DUDE: "You ... look ... like... a dork!!!!"

what i sort of hate are the shirts that are sold pre-rolled, buttoned-up somewhere along the sleeve.

also I was trying to make the thread quickly to lure people from the other thread, yes yes button-down means collar, "button-up" seems to me like how only women in the U.S. refer to shirts, blah blah blah, if you're a style mod and you care just make it "button shirt" and chillax

that's a nice shirt, though

thank you laurel for the taxonomy <3

I mean c'mon dudes.

guayaberas: classic? or only-for-cubanos?

http://kennedyembroidery.com/images/10-13-05/BG-8213S-web.jpg

that pic upthread is a perfect example of why folx need to size up.

Seriously? Shoulder seams are in exactly the right spot, length is good, if n/a has a gut it isn't showing. Sizing up would give him the look everyone's making fun of here.

i like wearing them but no one else seems to like me wearing them. wish i had a salsa gig so i had an excuse.

lol shasta u bitch

The sleeves are hardly the only problem with all these shirts. Short-sleeve button-downs need to be patterned or safari style or pretty much anything other than NASA Control Room Engineer 1968.

http://kennedyembroidery.com/images/10-13-05/BG-7217S-web.jpg

manager of red lobster #6023

http://imgsrv.wbz.com/image/wbz/UserFiles/Image/Sports%20Images/August%2017%20Angels%202%20Belushi%20throws%20out%20first%20pitch.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/space/1/0/J/8/1/S70-35096.jpg

the hitler tie shirt is well proportioned.

http://kennedyembroidery.com/images/10-13-05/BG-8206S-web.jpg

the one-sleever, for war vets

I like guayaberas. But in the spirit of a fashion "exception", it helps if yr style should be pretty straitlaced except for the shirt. And like everything else, IT SHOULD BE TAILORED.

Do not wear guaybera with mandals and shorts unless you ARE actually PR/Cuban/etc and you are THERE RIGHT NOW.

Guayabera w green army shorts and Sambas = A+++ :D style mayhem!

NASA Control Room Engineer 1968.

But this is hot-cha-cha! NASA Control Room Engineer plus good hair or tattoos or something of your own that's modern, this is very "Houston, we have liftoff."

i love it

tattoos otm

yeah the NASA square look is a key component to my style but YMMV

definitely key component of mine, although i guess that's not entirely surprising

http://z.about.com/d/space/1/0/J/8/1/S70-35096.jpg

Hot-ch-ch-cha!

Granted, even nerds had clothing cut better than what most adults where today, but you had better be athletic as hell to pull off that white button-up.

What are those, NASA guys? They got in a morning exercise, I'm sure.

I thought they were a bunch of Mormons listening to Tabernacle records.

I am going to have to start posting random shirts from chain-store websites to counteract all this image-search goofery.

oh great, ILX won't let me

http://images.urbanoutfitters.com/is/image/UrbanOutfitters/16009151_01_b

ooo, NASA

folx need to size up

pimping for steroids yet again

I've been holding off posting pics of mods and skinheads all day. Don't tempt me.

that's a hot shirt

where is that from?

Just Urban Outfitters, cause every other chain place I thought to try had an uncopyable Flash layout. (I usually get excited about finding shirts with flat cuts on the bottom, but that might actually be a little too flat, especially the way it's fitted.)

Too long on that guy, too, which is saying something, as I'm assuming that guy is tall

it does look a tad long

Lesson: don't tuck it in = good to go.

http://manolomen.com/images/Marc%20Jacobs%20short-sleeve%20shirt.jpg

would wear

the shirt, too

roll them, seriously

― nabisco, Monday, August 3, 2009 9:23 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

this was like the best advice i've ever gotten

lol

fun history of the guayabera at the miami history museum, online exhibit here http://www.historymiami.org/guayabera

circa 1897
http://www.historymiami.org/guayabera-assets/images/lg_3-spanish-sergeant.jpg