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true, I need to review the other ingredients right after I eat the four I still have ;)

My high school friend who is the Washington Post spirits columnist recently wrote about an MSG martini.

Also a pasta water martini.

Cocktails are out of control, yo.

https://wapo.st/40ZJ3IO

I want to try these

You are welcome to them! I love Carrie so much but almost everything she writes makes me even more committed to beverages that can be described in three words maximum, especially ones where the middle word is "and."

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai) wrote this on thread in the 2k10 i am learning to make cocktails. this is my mixology thread on board I Love Everything on Dec 10, 2022

cocktailGPT

Me: give me a cocktail recipe containing sherry and cheese
ChatGPT: Here is a recipe for a delicious cocktail that combines sherry and cheese:

The Sherry Cheese Cocktail

Ingredients:

1 1/2 ounces dry sherry
1 1/2 ounces gin
1/2 ounce orange liqueur
1/2 ounce lemon juice
1/2 ounce honey syrup
1/4 ounce blue cheese-infused simple syrup
1/4 teaspoon grated Parmesan cheese
1/4 teaspoon orange zest
Ice

Instructions:

1. To make the blue cheese-infused simple syrup, combine 1/4 cup of water and 1/4 cup of sugar in a small saucepan. Bring to a boil, stirring to dissolve the sugar.
2. Remove from the heat and stir in 1 tablespoon of crumbled blue cheese. Allow to cool completely.
3. To make the honey syrup, combine 1/2 cup of honey and 1/2 cup of water in a small saucepan. Bring to a boil, stirring to dissolve the honey. Remove from the heat and allow to cool completely.
4. To make the cocktail, combine all of the ingredients in a cocktail shaker. Fill the shaker with ice and shake well.
5. Strain the cocktail into a chilled glass and garnish with a sprinkle of grated Parmesan cheese and a strip of orange zest.

This Sherry Cheese Cocktail is a unique and tasty drink that combines the rich, nutty flavor of sherry with the tangy, salty notes of blue cheese and Parmesan. The orange liqueur and lemon juice add a bright, citrusy touch, while the honey syrup adds a touch of sweetness. This is a perfect cocktail for sipping on a cold winter night or for enjoying as an aperitif before a special meal.

There is no circumstance where I want a drink with cheese in it, thx bye

I've used blue cheese-stuffed olives in martinis, this doesn't seem that far off.

a strong aversion to common condiments is a suitable culinary opinion for a child imo. ketchup is not "gross", it's tomato, vinegar and sugar. even if one had never tasted ketchup before, you could a priori logically deduce that that combination of ingredients tastes good. mustard, mayonnaise, relish, hoisin, worcestershire, cholula, sriracha, hp, and just about any other sauce dip or spread you can name, are all basically delicious

Lol sleeve

I love ketchup on nice hot crispy fries, but the smell of leftover ketchup on my kids' plates after a meal nauseates me.

My uncool culinary stance is that balsamic vinegar is vomit-inducing and should never be used in any dish without express written consent. Particularly galling is when restaurants cook you a nice meal and then do 'fun' lattice-work of balsamic over everything, thus ruining it.

I would absolutely drink a sobayu based cocktail tbh

Stoop Crone (Trayce) at 3:34 4 Apr 23

Arrrgh MSG is not an artificial flavour! And it isnt bad for you!

teaspoon of balsamic, some garlic in olive oil perfect when making a red pasta sauce from scratch. Cook it all down, add yr herbs at the very end. Fantastic.

I can’t stand the overpowering taste of celery when cooked. Raw with hummus or a dip it’s ok.

If anything, I’d argue ketchup is underrated, and deserves more than “on fries”. I’ve had ketchup on sub sandwiches (in addition to mayo and mustard) and it’s great. I’ve had it on burritos and it’s great. In both contexts it’s a contributing flavor but it works.. it even works alongside curry-based dishes as a quasi-chutney.

Ketchup does not belong in pad thai, tho, that is some bullshit that must end

I know plenty of people who use a squirt of ketchup when they can’t be arsed to go and buy tamarind.

Make your own ketchup, it’s just fruit/veg, sugar, vinegar and spices. Made rhubarb ketchup and it’s my go to with cold meats.

I make my pad thai sauce with light soy, lemon juice, sugar and chili powder

My uncool culinary stance is that balsamic vinegar is vomit-inducing and should never be used in any dish without express written consent. Particularly galling is when restaurants cook you a nice meal and then do 'fun' lattice-work of balsamic over everything, thus ruining it.

With you on this 100%. I'm reminded of animals that have evolved to taste horrible so predators won't eat them. Balsamic vinegar destroys everything it touches.

I just put balsamic vinegar and olive oil on my salads at home and find it to be better than most more elaborate salad dressings I have made or bought.

My mom used to make a spaghetti dish that was cooked spaghetti drained and thrown into a bowl with ketchup, fried onions and pepper, grated cheddar cheese and bacon and I cannot tell you how goddamn delicious this dish is, you need to try it for yourself, it is witchcraft

A skewer of toadish olives slouched against the side of the glass, blue cheese innards oozing grease across the surface of the drink. It reminded me of nothing so much as the swampy vat of froglike critters that Jabba the Hutt kept nearby for snacking.

I hate this kind of food writing.

A half a teaspoon of balsamic vinegar, grated Parm, and black pepper on arugula is my daily salad.

Are sundried tomatoes still uncool? I love those things.

it's what I use to make my martinis dirty.

love sundried tomatoes

MSG somehow fucks with my brain chemistry or something ... idk ... it might not be as horrible as some people say, but it isn't healthy. I also won't eat turkey because of the depressing turkey chemicals.

It can be healthy because it allows one to cook with less salt. It's also in a lot of stuff unheralded, so could be interesting to look at context under which your brain chemistry is fucked with or not.

Salt is not bad for most people either. :)

Although I use kosher salt like a fiend, so I've been taking iodide supplements since I'm not getting it from my salt.

I like sun-dried tomatoes! I just used them in my last dinner.

I did just sprinkle some chicken makhani with knorr caldo de tomate to finish instead of adding more salt. But that stuff also has sugar, etc, so probably no net health benefit. Lowering salt just helps with high blood pressure? Certainly not suggesting it is bad for most and searching for anything to defend my knorr jars.

looked around for a few summaries, this is the best one I found

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/msg-what-the-science-says-about-its-safety

xp Sufjan -- yeah, it probably is the other stuff in the MSG additive foods, which are mostly snack foods so ... thanks thread! I learned things!

One knock against artificial sweetners in diet soda is it can cause cravings for real sugar later. I do wonder if MSG doesn't do something higher order but harmful like that in a snack food context.

umami makes one feel satisfied or full, so I could see a real effect on a body experiencing that feeling from these enhanced but not substantial snack foods.

Dad joke: how do communion wafers taste?

Saviory.

A kid 1 grade ahead was expelled for stealing a bin of communion wafers to snack on at home.

transubstantiated foods are uncool right now

Taking sides: Host vs. Hostess

Christwinkies

I like so-called bland trad vegetable soups like French Onion and Leek and Potato made using boring unreconstructed recipes, that probably is uncool.

A kid 1 grade ahead was expelled for stealing a bin of communion wafers to snack on at home.

― Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton),

we sacristans used to munch on these after we'd sent the priest off to Mass

iirc they aren't jesus until the priest temple of dooms them just before communion anyway.

One knock against artificial sweetners in diet soda is it can cause cravings for real sugar later. I do wonder if MSG doesn't do something higher order but harmful like that in a snack food context.

This is something that I've read about the 0-calorie fake sugars too (stevia et al). Not only does eating sweet things make you want to eat more sweet things, I've heard that the brain registers the sweetness but not the attendant caloric boost and so it gets hijacked into eating more. I'm definitely not food scientist though!

I've always been against drinking my calories, and was anti-smoothie until recently. Maybe this is uncool? I like to chew.

But lately I've been having smoothies for half my meals for health reasons, and it's a weird feeling to consume this thing that I know is very calorie-dense but goes down so quickly and uh smoothly, and not feeling very satisfied mentally/emotionally but then feeling quite full in a bit.

This one has grossed a few of friends out over the years: Heinz Ketchup is a great- maybe the best- thing to dip egg rolls in. Especially SysCo egg rolls, like what Jack in the Box makes. Which taste good.

++ on the sundried tomatoes. Sure they are a very 90s thing along with risotto and paninis but I still like using them diced up and tossed thru pasta with tuna and caramelised onion as a mega simple dinner.