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Oh god, 'Letter to an Old Poet'.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 31 March 2023 17:30 (two months ago) link

"Satanist" is like "Some Kinda Love": every line startles me.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2023 17:43 (two months ago) link

I'm enjoying the production much more - much fuller and more nuanced. I've got what I assume is a shitty vinyl pressing of the EP, but even with that the production always sounded thin to me.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:19 (two months ago) link

i'm very slightly disappointed in the album as I don't think any song on it is as strong as Me and My Dog or Stay Down, but I've only listened to it under non ideal circumstances

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 2 April 2023 03:54 (two months ago) link

this sounded nice on the first real spring day of the year. most bridges-related works have one spectacular song and then a bunch of solid ones, and on this one it's "satanist." tho i do still really like "not strong enough"

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Sunday, 2 April 2023 14:46 (two months ago) link

The only song I dislike is "We're in Love."

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 April 2023 14:47 (two months ago) link

"Letter to an Old Poet" holy shit

alpine static, Monday, 3 April 2023 22:33 (two months ago) link

I feel like this is about as strong as the EP rather than noticeably stronger or weaker.

A key difference, which Carl Wilson's review picks up on, is that Baker and Dacus offer much happier songs than they were writing circa five years ago. I experience this almost with visceral relief in the case of Baker given how relentlessly self-critical Little Oblivions was (albeit often very amusingly so). But I wonder if some people will come away from this album missing the emotional intensity that is generated by these artists' past tendency to return to the well of their own darkness. In particular Dacus' campfire ballads here, while not a new style for her, basically inhabit one end of her stylistic spectrum.

(Bridgers performing "Letter to an Old Poet" which is practically a do-over of "Me and My Dog", could almost be meta-commentary on struggling to move on from where she was 5 years ago, or appearing to struggle, but wanting to - especially given it arrives at the very end)

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 01:58 (two months ago) link

Dacus is such a good lyricist.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 02:05 (two months ago) link

"Cool About It" is such a condensed encapsulation of their various lyrical styles and performative characters, I can't think of lines more typical of Baker, Dacus and Bridgers respectively than "Wishing you were kind enough to be cruel about it", "I came prepared for absolution if you would only ask / so I take some offense when you say 'no regrets'", and "Once I took your medication just to know what it was like / and now I have to act like I can't read your mind".

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 02:23 (two months ago) link

This is good and looking forward to repeat listens.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 02:17 (two months ago) link

Coincidentally, that’s what Taylor Swift advising doing today (via IG Stories) – play it on repeat (that’s quite an endorsement)!

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 02:33 (two months ago) link

is 'Satanist' the best song ever?

Nourry, Thursday, 6 April 2023 08:18 (two months ago) link

Absolutely loving Satanist here too.

True Blue is my other personal standout on first few listens.

brain (krakow), Saturday, 8 April 2023 18:33 (one month ago) link

True blue is fantastic and the album is good but I’m not too sure about most of the acoustic tracks (except cool about it).

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 8 April 2023 18:42 (one month ago) link

I had to give myself time to adequately absorb the tracks I didn't know from prerelease, and basically I think it's a really good album that's a few songs short of great. I agree that a few of the folkier tracks don't register very strongly —– "Revolution" and "We're in Love" in particular — and I like them best with a bit of a beat behind them. That said, "Emily I'm Sorry" is one of my favorite Bridgers songs period, solo or otherwise, and the other pre-release tracks plus "Satanist," "Anti-Curse," and "Cool About It" are all top-notch.

"Cool About It" is such a condensed encapsulation of their various lyrical styles and performative characters, I can't think of lines more typical of Baker, Dacus and Bridgers respectively than "Wishing you were kind enough to be cruel about it", "I came prepared for absolution if you would only ask / so I take some offense when you say 'no regrets'", and "Once I took your medication just to know what it was like / and now I have to act like I can't read your mind".

superbly otm, my favorite song here

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 09:08 (one month ago) link

Put another way, the things that each needs to let go of in order to move on are very much in character and carefully (though not obviously so) counterposed: Baker needs to let go of her idealisation of her ex’s goodness; Dacus, her desire for fair determination as to where blame lies; Bridgers, her over-identification with her ex’s flaws.

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 10:07 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

did we ever figure out who all's in the band? Jay Som on the left here, I believe (correct me if wrong) ... the person next to the drummer looks very familiar but I can't quite place them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPYc7VC6M-Q

alpine static, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 19:12 (one month ago) link

very confusingly they have two bassists in that performance?

the live band there is apparently jay som on bass, madden klass on drums, sarah goldstone (she plays with dacus) on keys, and tiana ohara on bass. one of the bassists moves around instruments i think for other songs?

ufo, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 23:22 (one month ago) link

Am very much here for the extended version of 'True Blue' that will inevitably appear.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Sunday, 7 May 2023 21:36 (four weeks ago) link

Nice acoustic version of Not Strong Enough from one of the Taylor Swift Nashville shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aiL6c9Qi98

They're playing here this summer at some weird festival that both cost hundreds of dollars and also sold out but at the same time seems like it's on the cusp of being cancelled (literally) for permitting issues.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 12:13 (three weeks ago) link

Re:Set festival? that's their own thing too I believe, as in, they are principal organizers. Three day thing, luckily youu could get single day tickets (which I did for Palo Alto; still a bit expensive considering I don't care at all about the other people playing the same day as them)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:10 (three weeks ago) link

If I understand correctly, here in Chicago they put tickets on sale before they had the requisite permits, and the permit issue still hasn't been resolved.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:40 (three weeks ago) link

Also, aiui, the neighbors reallllllly don't want it. They just submitted another petition to have it blocked. Apparently largely the same group that has been working to chase festivals out of Douglass Park, they successfully stopped two other festivals at Douglass (Lyrical Lemonade, Heatwave).

If they sold tickets prior to permits, I'm sure that doesn't help their case much either. Doesn't look good with it less than two months away.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:56 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah, a lot of neighborhoods are sick of their parks and outdoor spaces being commandeered for the summer.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:57 (three weeks ago) link

Which I can kind of understand, I think people got sick of seeing Grant Park blocked off for almost half of the good weather portion of the year between Lolla, the marathon, private events, etc etc and it's spreading out to other parks. It seems less about the event itself, but how they lose park access for 2+ weeks on either side of the festival as well. As much as I like seeing more festivals that aren't the Lolla behemoth pop up, I get the annoyance of prolonged park closures during our precious good weather months.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:01 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah, like this stupid urban NASCAR boondoggle.

Every week a park is shut down, that's another week people can't have picnics, graduations, sports, family reunions, just quiet time to themselves.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:14 (three weeks ago) link

I totally understand that, though I did enjoy Pitchfork at Union Park last year. But I feel like that's a tension a lot of places, people using cities as playgrounds and playgrounds as party zones. Maintaining public access to public places is pretty crucial.

enjoyable acoustic version of Not Strong Enough up there, but i hope when i see them we get a full band rock version.

my song of the year so far, probably.

alpine static, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 19:34 (three weeks ago) link

Simon Pegg just picked 'Salt In The Wound' as his final track on Desert Island Discs, which was surprising and great to hear. They've definitely made it now.

brain (krakow), Sunday, 14 May 2023 11:32 (three weeks ago) link


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