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spent the last week working into evenings, whilst ill, and through my last non-transferable holiday (meaning i lose it) to get something ready for monday.

today, friday, i find out that

a) i should be using the NEW new api and not just the new api.
b) i don't have the right permissions to use the NEW new api.
c) there's a bug in the version we currently have installed which means the NEW new api doesn't actually work. a working version was installed (on a different stack = config changes) this afternoon. not that i had permissions to use it until 17:15.

they've now moved the deadline back, to the other side of the Coronation, but only at lunchtime. has all been a waste of time.

koogs, Friday, 31 March 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

filename or fileName?
pathname or pathName?

(i'll take the former every time)

also: https://history-computer.com/sql-vs-css-whats-the-difference-which-is-better/ (ai garbage or parody or what?)

koogs, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:04 (eleven months ago) link

generated garbage, yes

mh, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:07 (eleven months ago) link

I was confused by the lack of obvious ads, but it's all amazon affiliate links on a number of the pages

mh, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:08 (eleven months ago) link

b-but

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koogs, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:19 (eleven months ago) link

Liam sounds cool

mh, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:47 (eleven months ago) link

fun recipe requirements: velveeta and a butane torch finish

Enumerated funks of Walsh, Joe. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 June 2023 18:08 (eleven months ago) link

filename or fileName?

anything as long as it's not hungarian notation

butch wig (diamonddave85), Thursday, 8 June 2023 19:21 (eleven months ago) link

path_name surely

mh, Thursday, 8 June 2023 20:35 (eleven months ago) link

if you can't choose between them go with path_Name

ledge, Thursday, 8 June 2023 20:45 (eleven months ago) link

Path_Name

mh, Thursday, 8 June 2023 20:46 (eleven months ago) link

path-name

butch wig (diamonddave85), Thursday, 8 June 2023 20:47 (eleven months ago) link

"path" and "name" are both types, and i too oppose hungarian notation, so i would recommend "x"

š¯” š¯”˛š¯”¢š¯”Ø (caek), Thursday, 8 June 2023 20:47 (eleven months ago) link

path-name

ā€• butch wig (diamonddave85), Thursday, June 8, 2023 3:47 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 9 June 2023 00:16 (eleven months ago) link

Isn't this a FE/BE distinction? Javascript stans would go with camel cased, everyone else would go with snake case (personally I'd prefer pathname).

Cashews Everything Around Me (Leee), Friday, 9 June 2023 00:21 (eleven months ago) link

what is a "path name" anyway? it's just "path".

š¯” š¯”˛š¯”¢š¯”Ø (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 03:27 (eleven months ago) link

I frequently assign a path to 'dirname', which is very bad.

Enumerated funks of Walsh, Joe. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 9 June 2023 03:38 (eleven months ago) link

pathname is an entire path including the filename
as opposed to filename which is the filename part

path, to me, suggests the pathname without the filename

(don't get me started on aws s3 library that expects bucket and key)

this is java, so camelCase. does always raise questions when part of the name is something like API or URL or AWS or SQS or SNS though.

koogs, Friday, 9 June 2023 08:21 (eleven months ago) link

path-name

easier to type, harder to c+p

ledge, Friday, 9 June 2023 08:29 (eleven months ago) link

Surely that was a joek answer.

CeeLĆ´ Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 June 2023 13:09 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.theserverside.com/definition/Kebab-case

ledge, Friday, 9 June 2023 13:29 (eleven months ago) link

Thanks.

Note that in python, options specified by kebab-case will be converted to snake_case in the actual code iirc.

CeeLĆ´ Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 June 2023 13:47 (eleven months ago) link

(don't get me started on aws s3 library that expects bucket and key)

object storage does NOT have folders no matter how much they make it look like it!

mh, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:09 (eleven months ago) link

due to interoperability with file systems, you might end up with a prefix in object storage which may look like a path but it's not!

mh, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:11 (eleven months ago) link

path/name
path--name
path__name
path:name
path;name;
pathā€¦nauseum

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:27 (eleven months ago) link

^ Arenā€™t folders in a lot of file-systems also an abstraction that doesnā€™t actually exist?

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:27 (eleven months ago) link

pathAndFileNameCombinedWithOperatingSystemAppropriatePathSeparatorIncludingOptionalFileExtension

o. nate, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:35 (eleven months ago) link

ThreadSelectedControllerServlet

ledge, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:39 (eleven months ago) link

LOL

butch wig (diamonddave85), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:46 (eleven months ago) link

it's all fake, but you can generally have folders with zero files in them

an object store prefix can't have no values, so you end up with zero byte files to hold them when you sync in an empty directory

mh, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:54 (eleven months ago) link

object storage does NOT have folders no matter how much they make it look like it!

ā€• mh, Friday, June 9, 2023 10:09 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

windows path separators to thread

š¯” š¯”˛š¯”¢š¯”Ø (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:18 (eleven months ago) link

Well, I got laid off today. Have to remember how to update my resume.

Cashews Everything Around Me (Leee), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 00:20 (ten months ago) link

Ugh, sorry.

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 00:23 (ten months ago) link

sorry to hear that, Lee

mh, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 02:40 (ten months ago) link

Sorry to hear that, man

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 12:30 (ten months ago) link

Sorry Lee. I'm trying to return to software after a ten-year absence and it seems my timing couldn't be worse

Vinnie, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 14:51 (ten months ago) link

Welcome to the party, Leee! :/

sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 16:11 (ten months ago) link

ooof

š¯” š¯”˛š¯”¢š¯”Ø (caek), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 18:31 (ten months ago) link

Thanks everyone, this is the first time I've gotten caught up in mass layoffs, so I'm trying to figure out what I should be doing, aside from stuffing my face with comfort food.

Cashews Everything Around Me (Leee), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 20:53 (ten months ago) link

Nah you're doing it right

Vinnie, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 21:19 (ten months ago) link

I've got a couple Udemy courses that I've let lapse -- React and Docker -- and so I'm getting back on that to see if that'll help me in my upcoming round of applications (I see a LOT of positions that are looking for fullstack). But of course, it's one thing to follow along with the lectures, and another thing when you need to do something in a real-world environment (I have managed to create Redis and Elasticsearch containers, but fully dockerized web apps have been beyond my grasp).

Cashews Everything Around Me (Leee), Friday, 23 June 2023 22:16 (ten months ago) link

All the positions right now seem to be looking for Senior devs.

sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 June 2023 22:34 (ten months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I dunno if this reflects any larger trends in the industry, but in my last round of interviewing (around 2021), I don't remember doing many/any take-home assignments, with I think 2-3 rounds of technical challenges, most of which focused on design questions (as opposed to "manipulate strings, arrays, or data structures").

This time, I've been interviewing for about 3 weeks, and I've already done one take-home with another one that I have to reserve time for, I've done two technical challenges, both of which have involved string/array manipulation. And, although I haven't gotten that far yet, there seems to be closer to 4-5 rounds of interviews for any given position.

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Friday, 14 July 2023 02:47 (nine months ago) link

I love take-homes. I am not great at recalling terminology, even for concepts I understand well, so I've flubbed some of those answers in past interviews. Take-home is more similar to the real work and I'm much better at that, even under time pressure

Like you Leee, I've been at my search for three weeks now. Out of 40ish applications, only one response, but thankfully it led to an interview and a soon-to-be second interview and seems promising. Just rejections or silence otherwise. I do think I need to change up a few things with the way I'm searching though. And I feel like every listing I see wants experience with Docker so I'll be heading to Udemy for a course soon too

Vinnie, Friday, 14 July 2023 12:20 (nine months ago) link

docker is just a fancy vm, right? so that's like asking 'are you good with installing / configuring computers?' does it even say what is running within docker?

the whole dev-ops thing annoys me. used to be two separate jobs taking 100% of someone's expertise. now someone who can code a bit is expected to also know, for example, how to secure a webserver for a national company or how to tune a filesystem for many small files.

koogs, Friday, 14 July 2023 12:39 (nine months ago) link

Vinnie, I dread take homes, because for me they take a lot of time and energy. That said, I've actually been making a dent in my Udemy course on Docker and Kubernetes!

And yes, Docker is a modern version of a VM, which, even though I'm not good at it, is a lot easier and faster to set up than whatever Oracle's solution is, namely because Docker containers are usually built on a pared down Linux image.

(Of the job listings that I'm seeing that I have to pass on applying for because I lack the qualifications, it feels like they're usually full stack, and looking specifically for React on the front end.)

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Friday, 14 July 2023 14:09 (nine months ago) link

I haven't been getting callbacks

sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 14 July 2023 17:25 (nine months ago) link

:( Whiney. Spray and pray is unfortunately/probably the most reliable method -- it's a number's game -- unless you're willing to hit up former colleagues and ask them, which I haven't done ~yet~ because that seems overly mercenary and transactional. But if this drags out I'm more than willing to swallow my pride.

I just finished a 2-hour take-home, and my brain is totally exhausted. I have another phone screen in a couple hours, yippee. :\

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Friday, 14 July 2023 17:41 (nine months ago) link

:( Whiney. Spray and pray is unfortunately/probably the most reliable method -- it's a number's game -- unless you're willing to hit up former colleagues and ask them, which I haven't done ~yet~ because that seems overly mercenary and transactional. But if this drags out I'm more than willing to swallow my pride.

Why? I always like helping former co-workers.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 14 July 2023 18:07 (nine months ago) link

Because it feels nakedly self-serving to me! I know, I should get over that feeling.

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Friday, 14 July 2023 20:06 (nine months ago) link


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