Something Wick This Way Comes

like the warriors stuff, i’d hope that the dog pissing scene was a nod to *spoiler* the ending of disgraced slob seagals action classic out for justice: the search for ritchie

donnie yen eating noodles in steely blue silhouette

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, March 26, 2023 2:25 PM (two hours ago)

otm

would see another four movies of just Donnie Yen and Rina Sawayama doing a cat-and-mouse thing

re: marvel - i haven’t watched one since like 2004 tbh so i’m totally talking out of my ass there. prob a bad comparison but things like the poker scene, the post-credits scene, all the rules in place to pad things out, and the looming threats of spin-offs … that’s kinda just what i imagine these movies to be like.

― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, March 26, 2023 2:42 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

addressing this post bc i have seen a recent marvel movie (multiverse of madness) and can say that the problem with the mcu at this point (marvel fans beware i have hated most of these movies since at least spider-man: homecoming which is almost remarkably way more forgettable than any of the raimi spider-man films despite casting michael keaton as the villain, like what the fuck) is that the movies are just signposts for a long-term story that they are failing to tell well. like the movies and the post-credits scenes are just there to carry something forward that is hard to care about unless you are extremely immersed in it

whereas john wick 4 is like... pretty immediately accessible to anyone unfamiliar with the previous entries or the "rules" or whatever. and the post-credits scene just completes something brought up earlier in the film. i don't particularly care whether rina sawayama kills donnie yen, it could literally dangle forever, but the suggestion of it is enough and my imagination can fill in the gaps

just to jump in and you know i would never buy

Spiderman Homecoming is of course one of very very very few mcu efforts that are good, and not just "for an mcu movie" but as a movie

buy/but

yeah the MCU movies rely on institutional knowledge to get audiences to numb their asses on seats with opening and closing credit scenes

I'm fucking sick to death of post credit scenes

I kind of like the idea of throwing something extra to people who care to hear all the music and read the credits but if the scene is really any good, maybe everyone who left is kind of cheated?

Is there any really good post credit scenes? I'm sure there was one I liked but can't think of any. Can't remember if the supermarket scene was after the credits in Army Of Darkness.

Some post-credits sequences in Hawks and Ford films were exquisite.

I hate it because now, everybody stays until the end of EVERY movie, even if it's like a goddamn romantic comedy.

I loved what Scream 6 did, which was go to a post-credit scene where the character said "not every movie needs a fucking cut scene"

few people saw the De Palma Scarface cut scene, where Tony was very much alive and tanning his balls

I will admit the ones in Marvel films building up to the Infinity War were very cool but since that ended I've been less interested.

I don't watch trailers, I don't watch post-credit sequences.

I don't sing for nobody, makes me look like a joke

Ppl should watch all the credits anyway, I always do.

if i don’t have to pee, i usually stay anyway. esp when there are bloopers and replays of the best stunts.

furies, the sequel to veitnam's furie, also came out on netflix over the weekend. just wrapped it and was surprised by how much more I got out of it vs. wick 4.

I don't want to derail because I've enjoyed the previous three Wicks, but Furie is easily my favorite action movie of the last ten years. Going to watch the new one tonight.

yeah, also love the first one. enjoyed the second one too! they both have a lot of heart imo

Hey if there's no thread for 'em, fire it up.

This was a fun Wick, but I'm pretty glad the story is done now - as much as I was impressed by the overall filmmaking (the lighting work alone!), some of the plot points re: rules and consequences and who-betrayed-who felt a bit repetitive/tedious and I def found my attention sagging in places.

fave bits:
- bill skarsgard's goofy french accent + incredible outfits + overall ridiculousness (e.g. the part where he destroys his mobile phone and then makes another call on a gold-plated landline phone lmao)
- really impressed by Rina Sawayama - considering it's her first film role, thought she held her own against reeves, yen, sanada. Hope she gets a spin-off, I want a world where she can be both a pop diva and a legit action star
- you knew wick was gonna end up saving the dog the moment there was a dog on screen, his gravestone should've read "ultimate wife guy and dog dude" imo
- keanu reloading a gun in the half-second it takes for a bus to drive past him
- that loooooong take of ian mcshane walking past all the paintings
- overhead sequence
- stairs fall was lol

agree (spoiling nothing) the overhead sequence was where it really came to life

Weirdly I think I like the 'world-building'/non-action sequences more than the action ones in these movies. Would also be fine if there were zero guns. Psyched to see it this weekend though.

ridiculous number of on-location action scenes in this one

feeling sheepish that I couldn't quite put my finger on who the large german man was when I'm definitely a Scott Adkins fan

just putting this here

https://defector.com/the-gunplay-of-john-wick-is-a-bit-too-real-for-comfort

Saw this, didn't really like it even if in theory I like some of the things they're doing (not overexplaining backstory, real locations and choreography, etc).

Basically I don't like any of the scenes where people are shooting guns, they're boring and go on forever.

I do however like the scenes in opulent spaces where people are discussing rules and rituals, there should be much more of that.

(I'm aware this is my own fault for seeing a John Wick movie)

JW4 motivated me to rewatch part of the Ip Man series, but unfortunately, the one streaming service that I have that had Ip Man 3 only had the dubbed version. whoever made that choice should be in the hague

Enjoyed the first two, but the third was just headshot after headshot and it felt a bit uncreative, and eventually wince-enducing.

xpost still baffled at why they put Mike Tyson in that one. he didn't really add much to the movie even though I liked it a lot

saw this over the weekend for my first return to theaters after 3 years, loved it thoroughly (with one minor-ish caveat I will mention below).
Some random thoughts that haven't been brought up yet:
-Loved the weirdly specific in joke stunt casting of having the infamous Berghain door man play Klaus, the sadistic dude who helps Wick get into Wick-verse Berghain.
-Overheard sequence was the highlight for me. I assumed it was a clear Hotline Miami reference, but interviews indicate it was based on another video game called Hong Kong Massacre, which all reviews describe as a Hotline Miami clone. Still, someone in production seems to have connected the dots to Hotline Miami because the soundtrack for this one was clearly very influenced by it.
-Finally, I love Scott Adkins and was hyped to hear he was in this, but the decision to put him in a fatsuit and to make him a Fat Bastard style gross big dude felt a tad too cartoonish (for this very cartoonish franchise) and also more than a bit fatphobic. I spent the first couple minutes he was on screen trying to figure out if it really was Scott Adkins, then when I realized that it definitely was him, I was wondering why they cast him for this role instead of just getting a huge dude who could fight to do it instead. The fight itself was great, but in light of recent discourse around The Whale among other things, I feel like this aspect will age quite poorly and I'm kind of surprised to not see more objections to it online, but maybe I'm not looking in the right places. Also, tbf, my fiancee works at a hospital unit with patients who have eating disorders so we might be more sensitive to these kinds of things than most.
Still overall, this ripped and I am excited to see it again soon.

I saw this yesterday and was just about to post my incredulity that no one had mentioned there's a 20 min scene in the movie where john wick fights fat bastard

this is the first wick movie I've seen in theaters, usually I've played these movies in the background when I cook or something so I can tune out when it gets boring, and I guess I've never paid attention to them. I took the edible in an afternoon showing route, and had a very nice time having a moviegoing experience, sitting in a theater etc., but I found this to just have a really racist vibe, idk how to describe it. It felt like a racist rape-forward perfume ad about customer service, but that's just my review of the vibe of it.

The Sacré-Coeur stairs sequence is everything.

Really is!

I'm in the minority, but Bill Skarsgård delivered the laffs as purported arch-villain: serpentine, emotionally supported by Géricault canvases, aware that he's way over his head but (almost!) able to bring it off.

loved rina sawayama in this, sad she wasn't in it more. they kinda made it seem like her and jw would team up to whup some ass

i was confused by skarsgard's accent--was it intentionally like a french-african thing?

The confusion helped his performance: a kid pantomiming a marquis

ftr I didn't stick around for post-credits. I had an Easter brunch to hit and it was already late.

I liked Skarsgård but watching the staircase sequence felt like as much of a slog as it was supposed to be for the characters, and I don't accept that that was the intent.

Anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4GmiggFXRI

I thought this was great, especially the sound design. Very specific about where bullets and casings were hitting and landing.

There's something about the Wick movies, where they take themselves very seriously but ... maybe not totally seriously? They're pretty untethered to any sort of reality by this ridiculous but inspired concept of a global underground secret society of stylish and superhumanly trained hitmen and assassins, hiding in plain sight and bound by rules and honor and ancient codes of conduct, let alone Wick himself, an unstoppable, indefatigable force that leaves behind literally hundreds of bodies in prominent places around the world over the course of, what, a week or so? I'd love to see the headlines.

Someone put the four-movie death count at 439, most of which come at the hands of Wick. I love how even after leaving behind a bloody trail of the best-trained (would-be) killers, still more fodder come out of the woodwork to try to take him on. Like, sure, he just killed 400 people single-handedly, but hey, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take!

Oh, and fuck a post credits sequence. If it's important, put it in the fucking movie, which was already (checks watch) plenty minutes long.

I've never seen any of the Fast and Furious movies, are they at all like this? They just always seemed dumb to me.

f&f are far worse imo

I really wanted to see Wick in the theatre but had to walk out when it started because it was painfully loud. I was hoping it was just the previews but nope. Am I just getting old? This was the first time I’ve been to the cinema in 4 yrs. We checked a decibel measuring app and it was as loud as jet engines.

This is fun but Bill Skarsgard weird accent is just bad bad bad.

*Skarsgard's

Skarsgård's

mh otm

i realize i am uncharacteristically late to the John Wick 4 party

you guys <3

Full operatic mode! whole-ass epic! oh and YES we are climbing the darkened stairway to heaven and when we get there hold on to your butts because we’re duelling under a SKY that looks like a goddamn Titian painting

cannot love this series enough
i love this one SO much

the color stories, the fact that they are mixing all these weapons in these fight sequences so harmoniously and still finding ways to catch my breath w the choreography or even just whimsical situational settings like the Arc De Triomphe traffic fight that shouldnt work but do!

ugh

amazing
so happy