Something Wick This Way Comes

hell yes

Loved this. Only film series I can think of that gets progressively better.

World peace would be nice but a part of me wants to live in this world where amazing fighters/assassins are so commonplace that people at dance clubs and drivers don't feel the need to avoid them that much. And it's much harder to kill people.

just got out. it was no John Wick imo but it had its moments.

as always, fantastic cast (of old people!) getting a chance to have so much fun, incredible stunts, sexy hardware if you like the kinda thing.. and of course a dog.

if this is how the wickverse ends, we got our money’s worth. tho it did leave some spin-off potential…

oh, and one brief and charming take, blink and you’ll miss it, where the body language is pure Ted
“Theodore” Logan. vv charming.

honestly a little surprised by all the love here and elsewhere, caught it cold and friday night and it felt a little like series had run out of steam for me. the first one is so lean, there's a very effective revenge angle that adds emotional weight to the fights, and it mostly doesn't look like a videogame. I like all of those things about it and I'm not so into what we've gotten instead, which seems like hours of "world building," explaining rules I don't care about in detail, and kinda deflating the action when it finally arrives. it felt a little too marvel or something, I dunno. there's good stuff here, esp donnie yen in zatoichi mode, but I walked out wishing they cut like 90mins... which is a lot of minutes.

Apparently the original cut was something like 3 1/2 hours!

furies, the sequel to veitnam's furie, also came out on netflix over the weekend. just wrapped it and was surprised by how much more I got out of it vs. wick 4.

Apparently the original cut was something like 3 1/2 hours!

looking forward to finding out more about fetch quests you gotta do when you're excommunicado lol

it’s a sumptuous action opera. everything it offered me was something i wanted. especially any scene that took place in a room that looked like a sunset was happening within it

also i feel like ppl overstate how much the world building takes up the runtime of these films but that’s prob marvel related damage

also marvel movies are shot like shit and this is shot like a fucking beautiful movie ok

sorry i’m not ready to feel jaded about this

donnie yen eating noodles in steely blue silhouette

Yeah the color palette of the films alone really is something special to see. (Did a one-a-day rewatch of them all last week in the runup to seeing 4 on Thursday, and that was the element that leapt out at me the most.)

I won’t see this until it’s streaming, but I’m both looking forward to it and glad to see the series ending. Agree that whatever else can be said about them, these movies look amazing. Every penny is on the screen, as they say.

yeah i don’t relish being a killjoy (well, maybe a little…) but i’m also kinda confused about why it felt so flat for me. had a blast with JW3 and i could probably say many
of the same things about that one.

re: marvel - i haven’t watched one since like 2004 tbh so i’m totally talking out of my ass there. prob a bad comparison but things like the poker scene, the post-credits scene, all the rules in place to pad things out, and the looming threats of spin-offs … that’s kinda just what i imagine these movies to be like.

my review: simply cannot recommend taking chantix and finishing a wick past midnight

As I say above: I think this series got better with each film but I felt the main weakness is the dialogue scenes, they're not written that well and I get the feeling some of the actors just don't care that much, the hints of past relationships doesn't add much depth. And the dog pissing on the guy just isn't funny, it feels like a cliche.
But the action scenes and the settings and how all of this is filmed more than makes up for the flaws. That's often the way it goes with this genre. John Wick 3 and 4 are ranking pretty high among my favorite action films.

I watched this with my two good buddies who are action movie junkies, and they both loved it. I hadn’t seen a wick before and action movies in general are not really my thing, but I appreciated the fight choreography (even if there are only so many times I can watch the same kill…) and the overall look of the movie.

I watched the first one last night hoping it would explain some of the high table stuff but it really didn’t! despite the length I preferred 4

take an edible and see an afternoon showing

I did think the dog peeing on the dead guy was in very poor taste but I am a humorless old snob

It is probably the film the reminds me most of 3d fighting games during and after the PS2 era (Tekken 4 for example)

like the warriors stuff, i’d hope that the dog pissing scene was a nod to *spoiler* the ending of disgraced slob seagals action classic out for justice: the search for ritchie

donnie yen eating noodles in steely blue silhouette

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, March 26, 2023 2:25 PM (two hours ago)

otm

would see another four movies of just Donnie Yen and Rina Sawayama doing a cat-and-mouse thing

re: marvel - i haven’t watched one since like 2004 tbh so i’m totally talking out of my ass there. prob a bad comparison but things like the poker scene, the post-credits scene, all the rules in place to pad things out, and the looming threats of spin-offs … that’s kinda just what i imagine these movies to be like.

― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, March 26, 2023 2:42 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

addressing this post bc i have seen a recent marvel movie (multiverse of madness) and can say that the problem with the mcu at this point (marvel fans beware i have hated most of these movies since at least spider-man: homecoming which is almost remarkably way more forgettable than any of the raimi spider-man films despite casting michael keaton as the villain, like what the fuck) is that the movies are just signposts for a long-term story that they are failing to tell well. like the movies and the post-credits scenes are just there to carry something forward that is hard to care about unless you are extremely immersed in it

whereas john wick 4 is like... pretty immediately accessible to anyone unfamiliar with the previous entries or the "rules" or whatever. and the post-credits scene just completes something brought up earlier in the film. i don't particularly care whether rina sawayama kills donnie yen, it could literally dangle forever, but the suggestion of it is enough and my imagination can fill in the gaps

just to jump in and you know i would never buy

Spiderman Homecoming is of course one of very very very few mcu efforts that are good, and not just "for an mcu movie" but as a movie

buy/but

yeah the MCU movies rely on institutional knowledge to get audiences to numb their asses on seats with opening and closing credit scenes

I'm fucking sick to death of post credit scenes

I kind of like the idea of throwing something extra to people who care to hear all the music and read the credits but if the scene is really any good, maybe everyone who left is kind of cheated?

Is there any really good post credit scenes? I'm sure there was one I liked but can't think of any. Can't remember if the supermarket scene was after the credits in Army Of Darkness.

Some post-credits sequences in Hawks and Ford films were exquisite.

I hate it because now, everybody stays until the end of EVERY movie, even if it's like a goddamn romantic comedy.

I loved what Scream 6 did, which was go to a post-credit scene where the character said "not every movie needs a fucking cut scene"

few people saw the De Palma Scarface cut scene, where Tony was very much alive and tanning his balls

I will admit the ones in Marvel films building up to the Infinity War were very cool but since that ended I've been less interested.

I don't watch trailers, I don't watch post-credit sequences.

I don't sing for nobody, makes me look like a joke

Ppl should watch all the credits anyway, I always do.

if i don’t have to pee, i usually stay anyway. esp when there are bloopers and replays of the best stunts.

furies, the sequel to veitnam's furie, also came out on netflix over the weekend. just wrapped it and was surprised by how much more I got out of it vs. wick 4.

I don't want to derail because I've enjoyed the previous three Wicks, but Furie is easily my favorite action movie of the last ten years. Going to watch the new one tonight.

yeah, also love the first one. enjoyed the second one too! they both have a lot of heart imo

Hey if there's no thread for 'em, fire it up.

This was a fun Wick, but I'm pretty glad the story is done now - as much as I was impressed by the overall filmmaking (the lighting work alone!), some of the plot points re: rules and consequences and who-betrayed-who felt a bit repetitive/tedious and I def found my attention sagging in places.

fave bits:
- bill skarsgard's goofy french accent + incredible outfits + overall ridiculousness (e.g. the part where he destroys his mobile phone and then makes another call on a gold-plated landline phone lmao)
- really impressed by Rina Sawayama - considering it's her first film role, thought she held her own against reeves, yen, sanada. Hope she gets a spin-off, I want a world where she can be both a pop diva and a legit action star
- you knew wick was gonna end up saving the dog the moment there was a dog on screen, his gravestone should've read "ultimate wife guy and dog dude" imo
- keanu reloading a gun in the half-second it takes for a bus to drive past him
- that loooooong take of ian mcshane walking past all the paintings
- overhead sequence
- stairs fall was lol

agree (spoiling nothing) the overhead sequence was where it really came to life

Weirdly I think I like the 'world-building'/non-action sequences more than the action ones in these movies. Would also be fine if there were zero guns. Psyched to see it this weekend though.

ridiculous number of on-location action scenes in this one

feeling sheepish that I couldn't quite put my finger on who the large german man was when I'm definitely a Scott Adkins fan

just putting this here

https://defector.com/the-gunplay-of-john-wick-is-a-bit-too-real-for-comfort

Saw this, didn't really like it even if in theory I like some of the things they're doing (not overexplaining backstory, real locations and choreography, etc).

Basically I don't like any of the scenes where people are shooting guns, they're boring and go on forever.

I do however like the scenes in opulent spaces where people are discussing rules and rituals, there should be much more of that.

(I'm aware this is my own fault for seeing a John Wick movie)

JW4 motivated me to rewatch part of the Ip Man series, but unfortunately, the one streaming service that I have that had Ip Man 3 only had the dubbed version. whoever made that choice should be in the hague