What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

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You sure that's what was in the jars?

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INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link

I think Jameson's book is an overelaboration of the Eisenhowerian gag "if the American people want socialised healthcare they should join the marines like I did", tho Kim Stanley Robinson labours the point in one of his novels that the navy has far lower pay differentials between recruits and top rank than any other organisation in the US.

Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

Another Aaron Bastani talking point.

KSR is also in the FJ book.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link

Controp: conscript armies produce better war poets than voluntary ones

carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

I like Mike Davis's summary of Jameson / New Left Review types: "Ultimately you couldn’t really understand these guys unless you’d taken showers with them when you were ten"

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

I don't, and think it's a cheap, vulgar insult for cheap laughs at the expense of intellectual engagement; but even if I did, I would doubt that he was talking about FJ, who did not come from the same milieu as Perry Anderson and friends. He grew up in New Jersey, has never seen the inside of Eton.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link

a nerve! sorry pinefox, i'm no expert, but i'm definitely on team davis in the context of this piece which is where i ran across the quote. it may be an inaccurate picture in some ways, i'm not really sure.

Although Prisoners received overwhelmingly favorable reviews in historical journals and the left press, it drew sharp criticism for presenting a closed and bleak universe that seemed almost wholly resistant to reform. In an otherwise laudatory review in The Nation, Yale labor historian David Montgomery asked, "What role are the prisoners to play in their own liberation?" At the offices of NLR, some had a similar reaction. "Mike is an exceptionally astute analyst of the enemy, but if I were an American trade union leader I wouldn't go to him to ask which way forward," editorial board member Tariq Ali told me.

By and large, however, the NLR board was elated to have a precocious American—better yet, a precocious working-class American—wash up on its shores. "Marxists have long had this feeling that America shows us our future," explains Blackburn. "Mike's very robust, American working-class style further contributed to his charm." Yet, as even this circumspect editor concedes, "tact wasn't his strong suit." Some staffers thought Davis exploited his background. "Mike could be psychotic. He was very in-your-face about his identity," says a former NLR editor. As Davis himself admits, "I've always had a sort of truck-stop attitude toward effete intellectuals."

Among the first to feel its blows was Marxist literary critic par excellence Fredric Jameson. In his classic 1984 article, "The Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism," Jameson had breathlessly described L.A.'s Hotel Bonaventure as the archetypal postmodern structure. Its multiple entryways, elevated gardens, and glass mirrored surfaces formed a delirious "hyperspace," inciting those who entered it to "expand our sensorium." While noting in passing that the hotel's glass skin "repels the city outside," Jameson breezily praised the hotel as "a popular building, visited with enthusiasm by locals and tourists alike." Davis's response was unsparing: "To speak of its 'popular' character is to miss the point of its systematic segregation from the great Hispanic-Asian city outside," he thundered in NLR (where Jameson's essay had also appeared). Cutting through Jameson's theoretical haze, Davis emphasized the "smog-poisoned reality" outside and described the hotel as part of an ominous trend of "large vivariums for the upper middle classes, protected by astonishingly complex security systems." (In the endnotes to his 1991 book, Postmodernism, Jameson curtly dismissed Davis as "characteristic of the more 'militant' sounds from the Left.")

Davis's confrontational pose made for an unusually anxious workplace. At one NLR meeting, he stunned his audience into silence with the letter he had sent to Eugene Genovese, who had complained of being spurned by the journal: "Dear Professor Genovese, Fuck you." Then there was Davis's terrifying collection of pets. The centerpiece of the office was his atrarium, filled with a garter snake, an axolotl, and a carnivorous African toad. At an explosive moment toward the end of his tenure, recalled by everyone who witnessed it, Davis spilled his reptiles onto the office's lush carpet.

When I ask Davis about this, he strikes a remorseful note. "If anyone was guilty of wild or outrageous behavior, it was me," he concedes. In the end, though, he says he never felt a part of the Etonian clique around the journal: "Ultimately you couldn't really understand these guys unless you'd taken showers with them when you were ten." He longed to go home.

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/4850-the-american-earthquake-mike-davis-and-the-politics-of-disaster

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

Map, with thanks for your reply - not wishing to derail the Critique of AOC Reason, I have redirected a reply here:

Perry Anderson

the pinefox, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.thecut.com/2021/10/partying-with-gabriel-ocasio-cortez-aocs-little-brother.html

seems cool! just to save the haters some time he used to be a real estate agent though

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

She's streaming on Twitch again right now:

https://www.twitch.tv/aoc

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 July 2023 00:58 (nine months ago) link

So I saw there was AOC discourse going on but when I clicked through it was a dang Freddie deBoer article and I just peaced right out.

I was going way back in some stuff I saved off twitter and I apparently still have FdB’s insane allegations screenshotted from when he tried to falsely metoo someone

mh, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 23:00 (nine months ago) link

I can’t think of a more spectacular pundit flameout. I guess he’s lucky it was mostly confined to the internet, so he can still get gigs in New York Magazine.

we’ve got taibbi conversation on the other thread the worse case is right there

mh, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 23:57 (nine months ago) link

Ha ha not really

Certainly not cash-wise

DeBore has a Substack newsletter that I assume pays his rent, or some portion thereof. Pieces of shit like him can always find suckers.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 26 July 2023 00:08 (nine months ago) link

It will not shock anyone that he's a very active poster in the redscarepod subreddit

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Thursday, 27 July 2023 20:49 (nine months ago) link

If you've received an angry email from Freddie deBoer complaining about me, drop me a line. Curious to know how many he's writing.

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) August 7, 2023

three weeks pass...

it turns out she doesn't have a single flaw.

scott seward, Thursday, 31 August 2023 13:51 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

feels like her public profile has dipped but maybe that's just me not being on twitter/house republicans sucking up all the oxygen in the world

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:35 (three months ago) link

lmao “the book was given to us on day 1”

the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:39 (three months ago) link

idk seems she actually is interested in doing the work and passing bills and stuff not just trying to be on TV all day

frogbs, Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:39 (three months ago) link

she'll be president some day, i think, if there is a "president" of the united states in the 2030s and beyond

z_tbd, Thursday, 11 January 2024 17:13 (three months ago) link

feels like her public profile has dipped

Same thought occurred to me when I saw the thread, but I think the follow-up post about concentrating on governance answers that well. You can also wear out your welcome pretty quickly through over-exposure.

clemenza, Thursday, 11 January 2024 18:17 (three months ago) link

It also seems like the GOP stopped attacking her quite as much. A lot of her exposure came from Republicans shouting at her or stalking her.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 January 2024 18:31 (three months ago) link

We may also have reached a point where GOP congressmen may even silently agree with her.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 January 2024 18:48 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

good interview: https://www.offmessage.net/p/aoc-oversight-senate-democrats

jaymc, Friday, 1 March 2024 14:21 (two months ago) link


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