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hm not sure other than that bar system sounds kinda wack, i don't think there should be a compressor / limiter in a pa signal chain

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:34 (one year ago) link

Just to be clear, I'm just assuming there is, I don't really know. I thought it would be pretty standard to throw a compressor and EQ on a house sound system.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:38 (one year ago) link

yeah that sounds weird. some mixers have a setting for gradual vs. sharp crossfade, maybe check that? the muddiness is prob a house sound issue imho

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:45 (one year ago) link

so my bar put a pause on my thursday nights for a while with a promise that they would resume but no hard date on it...

i'm trying not to be doomy about it. my worst take is that someone there complained about one of my grumpy moments and they're canceling me. that's not what they're saying though, so i'm trying to be even-keeled about it. overall i enjoy djing regularly (of course), even though some weeks were harder than others. but i also became reliant on the extra dough to make ends meet. i've been trying to reach out to other bars with no promising word or contact from anyone regarding anything in the near future. i'm cognizant that i'm feeling a bit of desperation and so trying not to push it with anyone. i've spent so many years earning barely enough at my day job that the year of having "a little bit more than enough" did wonders for me.

probably going to follow up some texts / insta messages with visits this sunday. feel like i need god or the universe or whatever to throw me a bone. the best i can do is be patient but i'm not sure i'm up to the task :|

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link

aw sorry to hear that, good luck

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link

thx

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link

sorry map, hope one of those places comes thru for you <3

donna rouge, Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link

:)

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link

Hope it all comes good for you, map.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 March 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link

they can't do that to map!! wtf? sending love

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 24 March 2023 00:25 (one year ago) link

thanks a bunch all, i really appreciate the kind words. i thought it was like no big deal, i'd enjoy the break and be back at it soon enough. but now i feel like i got a rug pulled out from under me. fuck this stupid shithole city tbrr.

ꙮ (map), Friday, 24 March 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

'i accepted and played a black eyed peas song for you and this is how you treat me? we're OVER'

ꙮ (map), Friday, 24 March 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

hahaha

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Friday, 24 March 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

Friday night I played at someone's 60th birthday party, so I had a room full of people in their 50s and 60s who were just dying to get on the dancefloor. Excellent party, one of those nights where you're totally in the flow and every song is exactly the right one at the right moment.
At the end of the night everyone started calling out my name and the restaurant owner asked if she could hire me if she ever needed a DJ.

Best hobby ever.

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 26 March 2023 10:09 (one year ago) link

that’s so sweet :)

donna rouge, Sunday, 26 March 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

haha AWESOME

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 26 March 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link

I love nights like those, they’re so special - for everybody.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 26 March 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link

yep, I still remember a great wedding night set I did w/tons of friends, I think that was in 2004 but I was just recalling it the other day b/c I was thinking about Missy's "Work It"

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Sunday, 26 March 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link

and ArchCarrier I'd love to hear what went over especially well re: tracks

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Sunday, 26 March 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

what a lovely story. love this thread!

brimstead, Sunday, 26 March 2023 22:42 (one year ago) link

and ArchCarrier I'd love to hear what went over especially well re: tracks

Disclaimer: this was not a night for obscure Loft classics. This crowd wanted to party to music they've known for most of their lives.

With that said...

Instant floor fillers (just press play and watch what happens)
ABBA (Dancing Queen / Mamma Mia / Gimme Gimme Gimme)
I'm So Excited
Don't Leave Me This Way
Born to Be Alive
It's Raining Men
Red Light (Spells Danger)
Relight My Fire
Listen to the Music
You're the One That I Want
Paradise by the Dashboard Light
I Will Survive
Tragedy
YMCA

German party hits:
Helene Fischer - Atemlos durch die Nacht
DJ Ötzi - Sweet Caroline
Marianne Rosenberg - Ich bin wie du

Dutch party hits:
Goldband - Noodgeval
De Dijk - Dansen op de vulkaan
Doe Maar - Belle Hélène

Classic rock:
Bryan Adams - Summer of '69
Bon Jovi - Livin' on a Prayer
U2 - Pride
Blondie - Denis
Toto - Hold the Line
Queen - Don't Stop Me Now

Red Red Wine by UB40 and One Step Beyond by Madness also drew big reactions.

I didn't have a lot of chance to show off my awesome technical skills, but two good segues were Uptown Funk > Get Lucky and Dancing with Tears in My Eyes > Enola Gay.

ArchCarrier, Monday, 27 March 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link

sounds like a blast

my bar has told me they are resuming my thursdays in 2-3 weeks, so that's good news. it's crazy how distraught being on pause and not knowing if i had been dropped or not made me! in any case this place is SOLD and i don't know how long they're going to be open, probably not through the end of the year.

also keep having positive encounters with the new gay bar i want to play at. the owner likes me i think. i met his husband last night, who informed me that the owner listened to and liked the sample mix i gave them. they're full up right now with djs, but they're planning on opening their rooftop by june for pride. i have my sights set on playing up there, maybe another sunday tea dance idk.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 27 March 2023 15:19 (one year ago) link

oh nice I’m glad you’re getting your night back

props for “hold the line”, archcarrier

brimstead, Monday, 27 March 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

fun to ride a flanger over that one during the chorus (s/o idjut boys)

brimstead, Monday, 27 March 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

Dancing with Tears in My Eyes > Enola Gay

atomic bomb thing going on in both those tunes iirc, good thematic link!

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 27 March 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

They also have more or less the same tempo and I believe even the same key, so they go great together.

I hope it works out for you, map.

ArchCarrier, Monday, 27 March 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link

Paradise by the Dashboard Light

All 8 1/2 minutes including the baseball bit? In all my years of DJing I think this request drove me the craziest. There would always be a handful of people into it while the majority cleared the floor and headed for the bar.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 27 March 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

there's a 5:25 7" edit!

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 27 March 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link

Man, that would have made my life so much better had I known.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 27 March 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link

Why would you play an edited version of Paradise by the Dashboard Light? That's like reading The Count of Monte Cristo in an abridged edition!
There are always people on the floor who know all the lines by heart and act out the dialogues. It's the highlight of every party. I love it.

ArchCarrier, Monday, 27 March 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link

lol hey you know your audience!

if I wanted to slot it in as a request I would prob just hard fade from "stop right there" and call it good

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 27 March 2023 21:09 (one year ago) link

but weddings have an entirely different set of rules than clubs/bars

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 27 March 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

Last Friday, towards the end of a fairly shit night (some truly horrible people turned up, off their fucking tits, which drove a lot of the nice people away, and by the time I got the management to get rid of the worst one, the damage was done), I mixed Warren G "Regulate" into Blue "Fly By II" - at which point one of the few remaining people went "How can you go from THAT into THIS? Change it!" So I changed it... to "All Rise" by Blue. Pure malevolence, but I was past caring.

mike t-diva, Monday, 27 March 2023 23:10 (one year ago) link

oh man, i feel you on that. when it gets to a certain point you gotta make your feelings known.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 27 March 2023 23:24 (one year ago) link

sometimes you have to let people know you aren't going to take their shit!

ꙮ (map), Monday, 27 March 2023 23:26 (one year ago) link

Ugh, drunks are the worst.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 05:02 (one year ago) link

Just a heads up: Defected has their House Masters discography (35 digital albums) on sale for about $50 on bandcamp right now. I copped.

https://housemastersdefected.bandcamp.com

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 3 April 2023 11:33 (one year ago) link

Let it quietly be known that I was open to a couple of local gigs (for the first time in over 10 years) due to summer + I have COVID so I think I'm safe for a couple of months once I get over it? But having a laugh that everyone just wants me to go to their open deck nights with a cover and paid parking to play for 20 minutes for free*. Back to not playing locally with meeeee.

*cover means I pay them tho

Xii, Monday, 3 April 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link

Also @ map, sorry+happy to hear about your Thursdays but sometimes that's the game. And don't beat yourself up about friction with the crowd at times because you're just being you, you're just being human. No one can manage playing AND being charming all night all the time, especially when we all know people absolutely become unreasonable when they perceive you as "the help" for their night out. You're a really nice frood and I hope that Sunday roof thing kicks off for you, also because it'd get you psychologically less focused on the first venue (which seems to cyclically cause you a lot of stress).

And @ Moodles, there's absolutely something wrong with that club system and I'd check that someone hasn't messed with the curves on the EQs or that there isn't a bad limiter or something. I literally wouldn't play on a system that worked like that and if you're DJing at home on anything more than laptop speakers, there shouldn't be that big a difference between what you're doing there and out. Best to bring it up with the engineers at the places you're playing!

Xii, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:04 (one year ago) link

I'll definitely look into it more next time I'm there, but I'm also going to make sure I have the gains cranked as much as they can be without going into the red. I think a lot of the music that gets played there is ultra brickwalled, and a lot of what I play is not, so it may need some extra oomph

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link

i finally cold-messaged someone about getting a DJ slot at the bar he books for but haven’t heard back from him (it’s been over a week). gonna keep trying there and other places. my next scheduled gig is the end of this month, the usual LGBT happy hour which is going to be co-hosted by the local gay rugby squad. i’m very excited about this particular gig for…multiple reasons lmao :x

shortly after that i’m slated to co-DJ my friends’ wedding party. they have pretty similar tastes as me so i feel like i’m gonna get to play some stuff in my general wheelhouse which is fun. still a little nervous about it because i’m not really used to playing to audiences who are expecting to actually dance, but hopefully it’ll all go smoothly

also recently made the acquaintance of an older DJ here, he’s an LA local who’s been collecting and playing out for many years now and does a weekly happy hour at a bar not far from me. went to see him play the other week and just hung out near the booth the whole time and chatted with him. happy to expand my DJ pal circle, especially in this city where it all feels sorta impenetrable at times

donna rouge, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link

nice updates. i think just getting out there is important, you never know what's going to come your way. xii those gigs sound thankless but sometimes something is better than nothing i guess?

checking back in with current gay bar this coming sunday. rumors more persistent about "did you hear they're getting torn down?" i will find out how long they're going to be open if i can.

i might see if the bar i want to end up at would be interested in having me on a monday or tuesday night for less $.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link

After coked-off-their-tits-and-beyond fuckhead week, we pivoted happily back to nice people who like good music week, which came as a blessed relief.

mike t-diva, Monday, 3 April 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link

@ Map - I appreciate the "I started DJing in 2020" types telling me about open signups but yeah, I'm not tossing ten at the door and driving half an hour to play 3 songs for 12 straight dudes just waiting their turn. I know I kinda started this thread with "they didn't show up" but they eventually did and I had an okay run here ten years ago. And I came back to stuff hot, getting nods from a lot of mags for the work I was doing during the pandemic. I'm not too elite for lowkey hometown gigs and I'm not demanding headliner slots, I'll open for something cool or someone nice for funsies and two drinks at a house party if I don't have to go far, but yeah, I have a limit.

Xii, Monday, 3 April 2023 22:28 (one year ago) link

I'm a complete nobody by comparison and I steer clear of open decks gigs like that, the only way I could imagine justifying them would be if I just wanted a chance to get some extra practice in on a professional setup.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 3 April 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

i'm doing my tea dance again this summer! old bar wants me back. the one that just canceled my thursday has basically ghosted me and is going down the shitter / getting sold. sundays 5-9 are sooo much better for me time-wise too.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 20 April 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link

yay that's great!

donna rouge, Thursday, 20 April 2023 01:27 (one year ago) link

Sounds great! Them selling explains some of the issues you've been having - sounds like lots of behind closed doors drama. Glad you can wash your hands of it.

Xii, Thursday, 20 April 2023 01:34 (one year ago) link

first sunday went well overall, had a few of last year's regulars come & managed to please 2-3 other groups who wandered out onto the patio. happy to be back at it but it's still a wonder to me how hauling a few fairly light things into a bar and standing there for 4 hours can make me so incredibly sore and tired.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 1 May 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

i think it's because that whole time you're in "performance mode" - like even when i feel kinda bored in the booth i'm still conscious of being perceived/on alert to whatever's going on with the decks, plus standing still for four hours is kinda exhausting anyway. glad the first sunday went well!

both my gigs this past week were very fun. the rugby boys apparently liked my set at the LGBT happy hour, heard secondhand from someone that "everybody was vibing" to my set (lol LA). my pals' wedding went over a treat too, the dance floor stayed consistently hoppin' throughout the evening. i had one sorta-humiliating screw-up there (accidentally loaded a song onto the deck that was playing), but the crowd compensated for it by singing along to what i'd been playing which was very sweet. i'm not used to commanding an actual dance floor, it was kind of an amazing experience.

if anyone's interested, this is what was played at the wedding (i did roughly the first and last thirds, another friend of the couple took over for the middle third). the couple in question are gays with very cool tastes, i had planned to play some deeper cut italo stuff but had to cut a bunch of selections for time:


Rufus & Chaka Khan - Ain't Nobody
Pointer Sisters - Automatic
Diana Ross - Upside Down
Patrice Rushen - Forget Me Nots
Sister Sledge - Lost in Music
Black Box - Everybody, Everybody
Company B - Fascinated
Taylor Dayne - Tell It To My Heart
New Order - Bizarre Love Triangle
Human League - Don't You Want Me?
Deee-Lite - Groove Is In The Heart
Mary J. Blige - Family Affair
TLC - Creep
Prince - Let's Go Crazy
Madonna - Ray of Light
Kylie x New Order - Can't Get Blue Monday Out of My Head
Shannon - Give Me Tonight
Jennifer Lopez - Waiting for Tonight
Azealia Banks - Luxury
Crystal Waters - 100% Pure Love
Janet Jackson - Escapade
Goldfrapp - Ooh La La
Robyn - Hang With Me
Cher - Believe
Whitney Houston - It's Not Right but It's Okay (Thunderpuss Mix)
Sharon Brown - I Specialize In Love
Donna Summer - I Feel Love
Mariah Carey - Heartbreaker (feat. Jay-Z)
Beyonce - Cuff It
Prince - U Got The Look
Haddaway - What Is Love
Corona - The Rhythm of the Night
Real McCoy - Another Night
Klymaxx - Meeting In The Ladies Room
Righeira - Vamos A La Playa
Chris & Cosey - Oktober
Q Lazzarus - Goodbye Horses

donna rouge, Monday, 1 May 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link


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