Taylor Swift - Midnights

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both the opening and closing tracks are very confusing choices

ufo, Saturday, 18 March 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link

I was there last night. My daughter’s Christmas present. Great stage/set and performance.

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:25 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

There really should be one catch-all thread for her at this point. Anyway, assuming it is accurate, I was impressed by this:

Taylor Swift was one of the only celebrities who did their due diligence on crypto exchange FTX, according to the lawyer suing the now-bankrupt company’s celebrity promoters.

Attorney Adam Moskowitz has gone after basketball legend Shaquille O’Neal, football star Tom Brady, “Seinfeld” creator Larry David and more than a dozen other FTX promoters in a class action lawsuit that accuses them of promoting the sale of unregistered securities.

Moskowitz is seeking $5 billion in the lawsuit, he said during an episode of The Scoop podcast with Frank Chaparro. He claims the exchange’s celebrity boosters didn’t do their due diligence to check whether they may be breaking the law before cutting TV and digital ads for FTX.

“The one person I found that did that was Taylor Swift. In our discovery, Taylor Swift actually asked them, 'Can you tell me that these are not unregistered securities?’” Moskowitz said. Swift reportedly came close to inking a $100 million sponsorship deal with FTX, but the partnership never materialized. Swift did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

https://www.theblock.co/amp/post/226981/taylor-swift-ftx-shaquille-oneal-lawsuit

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link

embarrassing that she even got that close to it at all really

ufo, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:14 (one year ago) link

Yeah, even promoting a "bona fide" scheme for $100million, and yet they still shout about John L / Country Life Butter....

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link

Where was Beyonce in all this? Busy doing private shows for dictators or something? (I wonder if Swift does that stuff, too. Probably. A Wall Street friend of mine says that Coldplay is *always* taking corporate gigs, and god knows those dorks don't need the money.)

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:36 (one year ago) link

Oh, goddamn
I almost got caught up in a crypto scam
They said "Shaq's on board," but I responded
"Oh, tell me
Are these unregistered securities"
They wouldn't say, I never signed
And now I'm grateful

morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link

swift does do corporate gigs but i don't think she's done the middle eastern dictator circuit or anything. at least if she has it hasn't gotten out publicly afaik

ufo, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link

I would be so fucking embarrassed to be an audience member at a fucking corporate gig gee wiz

brimstead, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otc8CboPT2s

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link

How many global pop superstars still are on the "private shows for dictators" circuit?

omar little, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

Guarantee it's a least double the number of ones we actually know about.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link

Taylor Swift actually asked them, 'Can you tell me that these are not unregistered securities?’” Moskowitz said.

Strongly doubting this quote but kudos to her for having a good team.

Indexed, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link

I doubt the quote too but it's also not entirely implausible either considering her dad is a stockbroker and her mom worked in mutual funds that she picked up a few things along the way

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link

I still think about a long magazine (RS?) profile from years back, in which the writer observed her making deals and talked about how good at bizniss she is... and also mentioned that she was paranoid that stereo speakers in the room could be listening in on her conversations (she asked something like, "If they can produce sound by vibrating, how do we know they can't transmit sound back to someone?").

morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

For those in the know, yes, they totally can

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

i guess i'm a late swiftie. i actually can't get over how beautiful folklore is... 'cardigan' has made me cry a few times over now, and 'august' and 'hoax' are so tender...

maelin, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

I don't feel like "unregistered securities" are that arcane a thing for a 30-something multi-millionaire to understand or ask about.

I mean, of course she has finance people. But I wouldn't be surprised if she's on the more diligent end of wealthy celebrities when it comes to understanding her money. She's always seemed pretty business savvy.

It's probably telling (and fits with that thing I read) that she was negotiating/asking questions directly, rather than just leaving it to her ppl to vet & arrange... which is how I'm sure at least some other stars would handle it.

morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

(also fits with her intense personal involvement with ownership of her masters etc., which I recall reading something about...)

morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

her dad was a big stockbroker/finance guy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link

I don't know how long this clip has been floating around, but I hadn't seen it before. It's her arguing with her dad about why she needs to come out against Marsha Blackburn in the 2018 elections.

"I can't see another commercial and see her disguising these policies behind the words 'Tennessee Christian values.' Those aren't Tennessee Christian values. I live in Tennessee, I am Christian. That's not what we stand for."

I’ve never seen this before but this video of @taylorswift13 is worth watching

pic.twitter.com/DKxdl9pj2A

— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) May 2, 2023

That's awesome. Can't imagine the amount of pressure she must have felt from the TS machine to just be quiet.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 15:33 (eleven months ago) link

"Did Bob Hope do that? Or Bing Crosby? What about Mick Jagger?"

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 15:49 (eleven months ago) link

Iirc that's from her Netflix doc "Miss Americana," which is really good and

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:50 (eleven months ago) link

And ... scene.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:50 (eleven months ago) link

So I feel a little tacky being the person to bring up the breakup, but does Midnights become more interesting if we think of it as an impending-breakup album? Because I found it pretty blah on a first listen, and honestly I still do, but in hindsight I guess you could put together "Anti-Hero," "Sweet Nothing," "Mastermind," and maybe "Bejeweled" as a (possibly unintended) portrayal of a relationship that's fallen into toxic patterns: she's the one ostensibly controlling everything, but also the one who's entirely to blame if anything goes wrong; he's a kind of faceless, blandly perfect, endlessly patient angel in the house, but also the one who constantly makes her feel like she has to apologize and diminish herself.

"Sweet Nothing" in particular is very pretty but the title phrase is double-edged: would you really want to be someone's nothing? And "Anti-Hero" picks up a pattern that started in Lover, of "If we ever break up it will be my fault because you do everything right and I do everything wrong, including failing to take responsibility for my actions" but makes it into a huge, gleeful hit; it may be lyrically about midnight self-loathing, but vibe-wise it's a long way from something like "The Archer" or "Peace."

Lily Dale, Sunday, 7 May 2023 15:38 (eleven months ago) link

Huh, I wasn’t aware she had a breakup (or that her ex apparently had a few writing credits on Folklore & Evermore).

Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Sunday, 7 May 2023 16:00 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, I don't think anyone treated it as a big news item at the time it happened, which is refreshing and makes me feel bad about being the person to bring it up.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 7 May 2023 16:19 (eleven months ago) link

Seems totally valid to bring it up in the context of analyzing the album!

Looks like it did get coverage as general “pop culture news”; don’t know why I’m not up on that stuff anymore.

Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Sunday, 7 May 2023 17:53 (eleven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Karma remix w/Ice Spice on the way. Don't know if I'm excited about it exactly, but I like the gesture anyway.

Um. SO much to tell you. I’m a massive fan of this brilliant artist and after getting to know her I can confirm: she is THE ONE to watch. So delighted to say that Karma Featuring the incredible @icespicee_ will be out TOMORROW night at MIDNIGHT ET as a part of the new Midnights… pic.twitter.com/OaRrHBWTUw

— Taylor Swift (@taylorswift13) May 24, 2023

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:24 (eleven months ago) link

Also a new version of "Snow on the Beach" with a longer Lana verse (not that it will likely improve the song too much)

Day 1 fan (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:36 (eleven months ago) link

I guess she heard all the "We can't actually hear Lana" talk.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:40 (eleven months ago) link

“hits different” on streaming is the real news

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:33 (eleven months ago) link

I hope that CD edition she mentions eventually gets a wider release with all these bonus tracks.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:39 (eleven months ago) link

I wuz in a coffee shop last week when "Anti-Hero" came on... one of the barista bros said to the other: "I love this song, but I always forget about the 'sexy baby' part! Ugh, right?"

Day 1 fan (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:45 (eleven months ago) link

looool judging by the Reddit response even the Swifties are starting to turn on her over this constant milking the fans for different versions of the album

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:30 (eleven months ago) link

Terrible day for people that are me https://t.co/rd4wD4kHEO pic.twitter.com/ULz1DqCoSb

— MAStermind (@samisntokay) May 24, 2023

Indexed, Thursday, 25 May 2023 16:08 (ten months ago) link

No copy of the debut, no credibility

Day 1 fan (morrisp), Thursday, 25 May 2023 16:13 (ten months ago) link

Gotta click on the image. Looks like they have 6?

Indexed, Thursday, 25 May 2023 16:40 (ten months ago) link

Taylor Swift Is Dating An Alleged Racist — And Is Now Using A Black Woman To Cover Her Ass
Her remix of "Karma" with Bronx rapper Ice Spice reeks of damage control and exploitative PR strategy.

By
Cambria Roth
May 25, 2023, 11:36 AM EDT

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/taylor-swift-ice-spice-karma-collaboration_n_646f6a21e4b0a7554f3d5b98

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 May 2023 16:50 (ten months ago) link

xp I stan corrected

Day 1 fan (morrisp), Thursday, 25 May 2023 16:58 (ten months ago) link

my friend brought this up yesterday but i guess i am sorta disappointed that the guy who got greta thunberg to record an intro for his record is dating miss private jet plane

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:00 (ten months ago) link

The Root is on it too.

https://www.theroot.com/why-is-taylor-swift-doing-a-song-with-ice-spice-1850475314

Reason #47 not to date Matty Healy. But I'm sure she'll get a lot of songs out of it.

Quite a thread here:

Before I leave for NYC, here is my thread on seeing Taylor this weekend while she is dating a racist, Islamophobic, anti-semitic overall problematic white man. While I don't necessarily "owe" anyone this thread, it is important to me to take my public leadership seriously.

— Holly Stallcup (@HollyStallcup) May 25, 2023

Day 1 fan (morrisp), Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:21 (ten months ago) link

All that said I still think it's better for her to do a collab with Ice Spice than not, regardless and because of the circumstances.

putting aside how stuff like that huff post article reveals the extent of these ppl's disordered relationship w/ this celebrity, the logic doesn't even make sense. the "controversy" was completely dormant so why would she revive it and blow it up to massive proportions... as a PR strategy?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:27 (ten months ago) link

perhaps what she really cares the most about is money. no that can't be it

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:28 (ten months ago) link

Not sure about PR strategy, but people were mad that Healy was yucking it up over jokes about Ice Spice being Eskimo on that cumtown podcast, so I guess doing a collab with Ice Spice would mute that?

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:43 (ten months ago) link


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