Israel to World: "Suck It."

Seems a very weird time to demand a binary answer -- are the hundreds of thousands of Israelis marching in the streets waving Israeli flags and denouncing the government of Israel "standing with Israel" or "standing against Israel"?

yeah this whole 'valid critique of Israel's state policies = antisemitism' is getting really old

Cuomo happy to let Republicans undermine and deplete support and funding of Ukraine huh

I don't know much about Israeli's government, but I hadn't realized that they don't actually have a constitution

(China has one and that doesn't mean jack-shit, but I was just kinda surprised about this)

Firing the Defense Minister was a really big mistake by Beebs, I don't remember this level or protests (outside of Palestinians, obviously)

https://www.972mag.com/israelis-bds-government-protests/

15,000 people live in the Jenin refugee camp. Israeli occupation forces have closed the entrances to the camp (blocking ambulance access), targeted journalists and a hospital, shut off water and electricity, & bulldozed streets. Videos show bodies strewn on the street. Massacre. https://t.co/bsjnTy1u4d

— Michael Bueckert (@mbueckert) July 3, 2023

Things ain't goin great: https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2023-07-07/ty-article-opinion/.premium/israel-is-hours-away-from-becoming-a-de-facto-dictatorship/00000189-2c91-d145-a1e9-3ff74bd30000

Barak is already under investigation by the state for "alleged incitement": https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/28/former-israeli-pm-ehud-barak-and-ex-parliamentarian-yair-golam-investigated-by-police

Government of Israel to Israel: "Suck It."

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, March 2, 2023 3:27 PM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

I came in to type exactly this, forgot I'd done so in March, still applies.

Not so smart now is it! https://t.co/TVn0DVt4CT

— Arbeitology (@Arbeit_Fish) October 7, 2023

🇵🇸🇮🇱 BREAKING: Israel's second largest powerplant, Rotenberg, has been attacked by rockets. pic.twitter.com/XWKsIjLRgb

— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) October 7, 2023

Fuck.

Sadly we all know what's likely to happen to Palestine after this - it's not the 1990s anymore, no one has their backs. The Gulf Monarchies are all in bed with Israel, as is Egypt and others, Israel will use the attacks to justify being even worse (US won't do shit either)

— The Kavernacle (@TheKavernacle) October 7, 2023

otm

This is something to look out for.

on the 'don't waste a good crisis' principle, wonder if/when the israeli government starts blaming the constitutional protest movement for weakening the state in the face of Hamas terrorism etc etc

— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) October 7, 2023

Be surprised if they didn't tbh.

Seems incredibly bad!

Israel was in talks to normalize relations with Saudi Arabia. This is Iran seeking to disrupt that.

Seems like a nation-scale version of suicide by cop, honestly. A huge mistake, whoever's behind it.

I think the two things could both be true. It’s catastrophic and awful in any case.

yeah palestinians are going to get utterly slaughtered as a result of this. what a shitshow.

Like this is so incredibly miserable my brane goes full conspiracy mode. Is iran trying to get into a shooting war w israel to draw the US/NATO into direct defense of israel and then direct conflict w/ iran+russia?

Seems like a nation-scale version of suicide by cop, honestly. A huge mistake, whoever's behind it.

― read-only (unperson), Saturday, 7 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Maybe that's just me but some people don't want to live their lives in a concentration camp.

Like this is so incredibly miserable my brane goes full conspiracy mode. Is iran trying to get into a shooting war w israel to draw the US/NATO into direct defense of israel and then direct conflict w/ iran+russia?

― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, October 7, 2023 11:55 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don’t think we need to go as far. Gazans were protesting Hamas like never before this past year. Plus, everything is leading towards Saudi Arabia recognising Israel in the near future which would be the end of the one Palestinian state dream extremists like Hamas want.

a lot of people want one state

Let’s hope no one gets it.

I'm glad you've come around to the abolition of the nation state but in the meantime I would still prefer a secular non-apartheid state over constant bloodletting or genocide

it didn't take long for israel to overtake hamas's death toll - at least 232 people now killed by retaliatory air strikes in gaza (according to al jazeera)

Talking about geopolitics and moralising is colonizer behaviour when this is the reality

reminder that i*rael controls all the food that enters gaza thus keeping gazans on a starvation diet; unemployment is roughly 70%; around 50,000 people are disabled - many deliberately maimed by the occupying forces in their 'shoot to maim' policies. no bomb shelters. no escape.

— mira | ميرا (@_her_moth_) October 7, 2023

Hamas shouldn’t have looted the greenhouses imo.

oh fuck off

stop pretending to care about people

fuck off VHS

Hamas shouldn’t have looted the greenhouses imo.

― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 7 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

If you're expecting the media to cover this uprising fairly, only a few days ago the Guardian described those rising up as "receiving bullets" in their bodies. 🙃🇵🇸 pic.twitter.com/Ku3pYKTlLj

— Alan MacLeod (@AlanRMacLeod) October 7, 2023

You realise the blockade is in place because of Hamas right? That it would be over if the authority of Gaza wanted peace?

catch a rocket

imagine if there was a way to end VHS's illegal occupation of this thread

Weirdo hasn't posted in months and is now thinking he has a point like we don't know about The Nakba

i don't know why someone hasn't explained this one weird trick for peace to the Gazans, it seems so simple.

Won't someone please think of the Greenhouses?!?!

FP and move on

i don't know why someone hasn't explained this one weird trick for peace to the Gazans, it seems so simple.

― JoeStork, Saturday, October 7, 2023 3:36 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Gazans don’t want Hamas.

FP and move on

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 7 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Way ahead of you. Everyone here please do this.

Pretty good thread on 1973 as a read on the present moment.

There are obvious parallels between the current attack and the 1973 war. In both cases, Arab leaders had reached out to Israeli leadership, and were rebuffed. Sadat to Golda's government, and Sinwar to Netanyahu (he even sent him a note in Hebrew)
1/

— Yair Wallach (@YairWallach) October 7, 2023

It's probably best not to be drawn into vacuum of good faith that is Israel's 'objections' to Hama's, given the key role Israel has played in securing Hamas' position in the Palestinian political consensus.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090926212507/http:/online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html

It's extraordinary to me, the extent to which it always seems possible to find an excuse (boycott, peaceful protest, prayer) to justify further escalations of the quotation barbarism visited on the people of Palestine.

I'm horrified by the violence visited on civilian populations in Israel and Palestine but it's obvious who has borne the brunt of this violence and it's also obvious that the only way to end it is to end the relentless and illegal dispossession experienced by the Palestinians. That is, there is a simpler solution readily available to Israel, which is not offering bad faith ultimatums.

otm

US mideast policy is now so firmly bound and chained to Israel and Israel's domestic policy is now so firmly committed to endless land grabs for new settlements, water grabs, violent repression and reprisals, that it feels impossible to envision any peace offers coming from those sources that don't amount to forcing the Palestinians to ratify those genocidal policies in return for essentially nothing but their right to continued existence. But when they resist they are told they are totally justifying those genocidal policies against them.

plaxico otm

This is Bibi’s Gulf of Tonkin moment. He wanted it to happen so he can enact his own Final Solution for Palestinians. An absolute fucking monster

Thanks for that piece Plax

This Gazan analyst (close to Hamas) predicted with 100% accuracy 5 years ago what would happen if Israel doesn't lift its blockade.

Fayez Abu Shamala - Sep 17, 2018 pic.twitter.com/BeuTARZlIu

— Muhammad Shehada (@muhammadshehad2) October 7, 2023